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My husband seems annoyed by me all the time. Am I overthinking this? by CuteZookeepergame611 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If he won't listen to you then you might need to see a couple's councilor. He needs to understand that you want to be there for him so he can show up for you. You miss him and value him and his time.

Does he have a particularly stressful job where he has limited, or no, autonomy? I think that is a big thing for men. We often feel discarded or disrespected at work then come home and feel like our time is dictated to us instead of within our control. It may not be rational, but emotional baggage never is.

My husband seems annoyed by me all the time. Am I overthinking this? by CuteZookeepergame611 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly? Yes, you might annoy him. That may be his problem but it will still tap into those fears you have.

My suggestion is that he needs to figure out why he is disconnected from joy. People do frequently downplay the sadness and loneliness of men and assume they are fine because they laughed at that comedian or played golf with the boys. Men do not get sad like women do (generally). Our wives view it as us not caring or being angry, but we are just trying to get through the day.

His lack of joy is not your doing, but it is important to get to the bottom of it. It will improve things for both of you. He will likely push back and say he is fine. I guarantee he needs to really stop and think about what is eating away at him.

Working twice as hard for a fraction of the life. by Sufficient-Slide822 in middleclasshq

[–]Unique-Use2185 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never said it was not doable at all, but I know for certain I was told endlessly that if I did not get my degrees and become a "professional", I would be poor and unsuccessful.

We have a throw away culture that wastes money like crazy. There are other ways. They may be hard initially, but the payoff is worth it. I grew up being told stories of my grandfathers coming home after WW2, scraping by to finally getting a home and spending years saving to properly furnish it. Most people I know just buy everything on credit because they want it now.

Working twice as hard for a fraction of the life. by Sufficient-Slide822 in middleclasshq

[–]Unique-Use2185 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At 27 I had a house, two kids, two cars, two dogs, and had started saving for retirement.

Now, at 36, I have a house, three kids, two cars, one dog (sadly), and have a solid nest egg for retirement.

All with 0 academic qualifications. Highschool education. Not a trades person.

It is still doable, make good choices.

Wife Perpetually Unhappy by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the message.

She is currently refusing to talk to a professional. I have noted this elsewhere, but I find this odd given she is a therapist herself.

Wife Perpetually Unhappy by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the reply. I did not read it as dismissive.

I have suggested she do private/online therapy to have her own thing. Some kind of schedule can definitely help find stability.

I am also pushing her to reach out more to her friends. Go for coffee, walks, just chat. My mom lives two blocks away as well and they get along. She would be happy to help out and spend some time with my wife.

Wife Perpetually Unhappy by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the message.

I do feel like the focus is on "husband bad" rather than trying to give real insight into things. I have no interest in belittling my wife, just looking for next steps/support/solutions.

Wife Perpetually Unhappy by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. That is a pretty good summary of where I am at with this.

Unfortunately, she is currently against seeing anyone independently or as a couple. I find this odd as she is/was a therapist, but she is against it.

Wife Perpetually Unhappy by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do not believe I have dismissed anything. However, I do believe being depressed/stressed/tired/worn out does not give license to act in a way that negatively affects the kids and myself. At a certain point, understanding is not enough and action must be taken to improve things.

If she is acting in a way she would not accept from me, then she should not act that way. Being a partner is not just perpetual understanding and being a doormat. I have spent hundreds of hours sitting with her and talking things out. Offering help and trying to ease her burdens based on what she says she needs. The goal posts just keep moving and I am frustrated.

Wife Perpetually Unhappy by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I do not believe I am being unreasonable or have an attitude, but I can appreciate that is your read of things.

I just expect my wife to show the same respect she is shown. If I acted even a little bit like how she is acting, she would have zero tolerance for it.

I understand the stresses of being a SAH. I was the primary parent for four years when I worked nights. As I said, not trying to diminish that role, just want my role to also not be diminished as if my time and contributions are less valuable.

I have suspected she has ADHD for a while, but she also doesn't want to get that checked out.

Wife Perpetually Unhappy by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean this in an honestly curious way, and will address your question, but brushing past working hard to have a flexible job to better support my family seems a bit dismissive. I feel like this "mental load" concept is a pretty big cop out for acting poorly toward a partner. I see it all the time but it makes no sense to me. We all have mental loads, it just depends on our function. My mental load is not her issue, nor should it be. I chose my life.

I work 8-12 hour days with 100+ staff and all the issues that come with that. I am on call 24/7. That is my mental load and that energy and time is my primary contribution to my family along with the money to live our lives. It is no small thing but it seems widely overlooked. My flexibility comes at a cost to myself as I have to find time to make up what I have missed, which is also often overlooked because everyone else is asleep.

To answer your question, yes. I am the primary cook in my family. I wake up early every morning to get breakfast done, lunches made, bags packed, kids out the door. I coach the kids sports. I do the property maintenance and can fix most things myself. I do the bills and most of the parties/social events unless my wife says she wants to.

Honestly not trying to be dismissive of your point, I just believe that I work very hard for my family. I would never ask my wife to take on the lion's share of the family duties, and I definitely would not dismiss her contributions and take my stress out on her. I expect the same treatment.

Wife Perpetually Unhappy by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the reply.

I can appreciate the cycle, but the lack of appreciation really feels one sided. I constantly tell her how much I love her, how attracted to her I am, how she is a good mom etc. If she needs space or quiet I just ask that she communicates what she needs and I will ensure I get it done.

Just feels like she lives in an alternate reality. She said to me tonight that she just needs some time to herself but never gets it. I reminded her that I had the kids ready to go this past weekend and said I would take them out for a few hours and she said no and tagged along. Just seems like I can't "win".

Wife Perpetually Unhappy by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I should also say that I do not tell her she is in a foul mood constantly. When I said that I talked to her about her foul mood, it was her venting to me about what has made her mood foul. I was not giving her a performance review.

Wife Perpetually Unhappy by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your suggestions.

She is 34.

I get the mental load argument, but I am a very active husband and father. I do work a lot, but I am the sole provider. I go in late, stay late, leave early, etc depending on what she and the kids need. Thankfully I worked myself into a flexible position.

New Body. Dead Bedroom. by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate the reply, but as I said, she hates the gym. All I will get after are complaints of soreness and how much she hates it, and this was the case when she was 21 and still regularly active.

Even if that was not true, I also think healthy boundaries are important. 7:30am to 9pm I am doing something for my family. 6am to 7:30am is my time for my own health and stability. Noone should give up their self improvement, or be expected to.

New Body. Dead Bedroom. by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She hates working out. We tried the gym thing years ago when I was originally in good shape.

Part of the problem is that our strength difference is large and she wants to work out together if we go. It either takes significantly longer to work out since we keep changing weights/exercises, or I have to do a bare-bones workout that does nothing for me so we can get out of the gym in time for the kids. That is also disregarding that she hates it and has no issue telling me so, haha.

New Body. Dead Bedroom. by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do appreciate this perspective but I will push back on it a bit.

I love my wife, but I would never ask her to diminish herself to make me feel better. That is very poor behaviour from a partner. There were years when I was very heavy and she was definitely way better looking but I would never have entertained the thought of her making herself look worse for my own comfort.

I do not flex in the mirror or discuss my diet. Honestly never bring it up unless someone asks me about it. I also can not fit in my old clothes, so that won't work. I do frequently work late, but I am the sole income and I have a hectic job. Stayed late when I was big, too. I also only have male colleagues.

New Body. Dead Bedroom. by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your thoughts, I will definitely keep this in mind.

New Body. Dead Bedroom. by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciate the perspective from a similar place.

I will say that I have been at my current body for at least a year now, plus or minus a few pounds.

New Body. Dead Bedroom. by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the suggestion. You are right, only person who knows for sure is my wife.

New Body. Dead Bedroom. by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Haha, done and done, but more wouldn't hurt.

New Body. Dead Bedroom. by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pretty light. We have been in much worse situations in our marriage than we are now. She is a stay at home mum, our finances are secure, no debt except mortgage, I do nearly all of the cooking, lunches, have breakfast ready for the kids before leaving to the gym, usually do the grocery shopping on my way home, just renovated the basement myself so we saved a lot of money there.

She does the majority of the household chores outside of cooking/yard work/reno stuff.

New Body. Dead Bedroom. by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I appreciate coming at it from her perspective.

She does have a lot of her own time. She is a stay at home mum and all of our kids go to school from 8:30 to 4:30 (bus drop off). On weekends I make sure she is not woken up in the morning by the kids and gets up on her own time. I will also ensure she gets at least a couple hours to sew/quilt (her hobby) and take the kids out somewhere.

New Body. Dead Bedroom. by Unique-Use2185 in Marriage

[–]Unique-Use2185[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Possibly, but the timing matches perfectly. I thought about it just being a libido issue, but the dead bedroom occurred right in line with when I really started to look in shape. I am honestly at a loss, but I appreciate the suggestion. Could just be a coincidence on the timing.