Reader Comments - 10 Fast Facts from Nintendo � First Half 2007

10 Fast Facts from Nintendo � First Half 2007

Published: Jul. 24th, 2007 6:29 am

Jul. 25th, 2007 9:32 am

SpartanX360

tkadri85

Both the N64 and GC directly competed with Sony and MS. All the Wii is is a pu**y cop out.
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Uh dude sorry to burst your bubble.

Ms never got into their console business yet until they helped create one for Sega Co-op and thats DREAMCAST took the spot for sony and nitendo went to their britches. Create a brand new console just before dreamcast died miserably by sega losing money over it, Ms planned to add Dreamcast chip but Cancelled.

If you dont own one, oh well you can get it at Ebay so get some games and play it you notice is way better than Nitendo console and Sony console.

Its the First console that delivered Next gen graphics so I call my 360
"Dreamcast Zero X"

Jul. 25th, 2007 9:26 am

RicanWraith

tkadri85

1. You quoted me, but i didn't type that. haha.

2. Nintendo isn't stealing money. It's business. And a wise business venture, due to the fact it's extremely popular.

3. You say, "I don't hate Wii." yet you continue to bash it incessantly.

Jul. 25th, 2007 8:53 am

tkadri85

Mr. RicanWraith,
I don't know if you've noticed, but you are "these angry people", one of them for that matter.

As I said in prior post, I rarely post and the only reason I was on yesterday is because I was at work and we did not have a lot of work to do at the office.

I'm just amused at the number of people who are willing to whore themselves out to Nintendo. Microsoft and Sony both went the extra mile to try and EARN the consumers dollars by putting out high performing machines. Nintendo said, "Well we can't afford to compete for the consumer with leading edge technology, but we can give them a fancy controller." Look at how all the hype that originally surrounded the Wii at its unveiling has died off.

I don't hate Wii. I hate Nintendo for stealing money, though not much, from console makers that put forth a valiant and competent effort in their consoles. I dislike them in the same way that I disliked Sony for putting out the sh!tty PS2. It was an underpowered, overrated, and faulty piece of crap.

Forget Nintedo. If it weren't for MS the PS3 would have been so mediocre because Sony would have known that they could get away with another shoddy console, since Nintendo is no competition.

Nintendo was challenged by Sony with the PS1 and PS2. After losing in both generations, like France, they have surrendered.

Both the N64 and GC directly competed with Sony and MS. All the Wii is is a pu**y cop out.

Jul. 25th, 2007 7:04 am

Coffee Buzz

tkdari85....

If you keep being "Mr. Angry Wii Hater Guy" on this comment board for another 2 day's - you may actually begin to swing around some of the opinions here that currently don't agree with you.

Good luck! ;)

c[_]

Jul. 25th, 2007 7:01 am

RicanWraith

tkadri85

hah,
yea cuz i wanna see if your still fighting with these people.

you should get a hobby.

Jul. 25th, 2007 6:55 am

tkadri85

and yet you always come back......

Jul. 25th, 2007 6:53 am

RicanWraith

tkadri85

i'm gonna have to quote this guy...

"Lightflare
The argument is going nowhere, stop wasting your time. Be happy with what you already own, and stop being such big crybabies."

with EXTRA emphasis on the last sentence...

"You sound pathetic."

Jul. 25th, 2007 6:22 am

tkadri85

tkdari85:

1
Uh, no. Nintendo knew if they tried to compete directly with MS and Sony, they would get f*cked. KEEP GIVING YOUR EXCUSES. THERE IS NO REASON WHY THE WII COULDN'T HAVE HAD THE CONTROLLER AND STILL HAVE BEEN A POWERFUL SYSTEM. They were bankin on a gimick and there just happened to be a lot of suckers out there who bit. Period. You opinion about why the chose to go that route is irrelavant. It is still the weakest system

2
Refer to 1

3
No it isn't. The Wii is the least economical because if you were total the cost of making each of the current gen systems and compare it to what you are paying, the Wii IS the least economical. How much "fun" you are having is you opinion.

4
It's pretty sad when the best game for a system is the one that came bundled with it. As far as the other titles you mentioned. Can you say "rehash."
5
relevance?
6
excuses
7
opinion
8
With a price such as the Wii's it should be booming within the first year. This is relevant because the main thing holding the 360 and PS3 back are price, and games in the PS3's case. The Wii has no price barrier, so unless it's games suck or it lacks appeal, it has not reason not to sell.

All you did was state your weak ass opinion. For someone who complains about facts, you sure don't seem to be able to tell what one is.

Jul. 25th, 2007 6:08 am

tkadri85

"Blades�nger
Tkadri85

One answer retard: Because Nintendo is broadning the market. Simple fact of the matter is that you leave out the pretty graphics, the massive amounts of system resources and hardware, and what do ya have, you have companies regurgatating the SAME Fing GAMEPLAY STYLES THAT HAVE BEEN THE NORM SINCE THE PSX. Same kind of control schemes, same style of gameplay is what's killing this industry in the first place."

Okay, so take away the Wii's controller and what do you have? An underpowered piece of sh!t.

All you have done is knock the better systems for being more powerful, yet you have said nothing to bolster the Wii other than it's uninnovative controller. I guess Live doesn't exist either huh?

As far as having multiple parties during the week, all that shows is that you have too much time on your hands.

Jul. 25th, 2007 6:03 am

tkadri85

no1, I've never owned a Wii, just played one. I'd never buy that piece of crap.

Jul. 25th, 2007 5:45 am

lorak29

Whether you like the Wii or not it doesn't matter. Nintendo was tired of being #3 and they figured out a way to sell their product. Nuff said.

Jul. 25th, 2007 1:13 am

camreeno360

Why is everyone buying Wiiplay? That game sucked. Also I think it's dumb how they include the number of Virtual Console games with the number of Wii games, because I don't concider them "games" when they're after all just digital ports. There's still a total lack of good games. Only of which 4 or 5 are worth buying.

Jul. 24th, 2007 11:13 pm

WhitebeardedGnu

tkdari85:

1
No really? It was never meant to be the strongest, Nintendo approached the "next-gen" in a completely different way, I thought people knew that though.

2
Refer to 1

3
Least economical? It's cheaper than the other 2 systems, and I've had more fun with Wii in terms of how much I've gotten for money spent than the 360 so far.

4
Might be because the best Nintendo made game CAME with the system. Give it a few months to a year, Smash Bros, Metroid Prime, Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart Wii, etc.. Just wait.

5
According to nexgenwars.com, 360 has roughly 11 million under its belt and Wii has 9 million at this point in time.

6
Kind of hard when the huge Wii titles havn't even come out yet (I mean, it's ONLY BEEN ABOUT 8 MONTHS).

7
And it's a ****ing huge difference, the whole point in Wii is to be unique and original. Sure the 360 has some COOL titles, but how unique are they really? It's all just a fresh coat of paint.

8
Sales will always be booming in the first year? Well okay, I guess that makes sense since the 360 actually under-performed due to amount of hardware they were able to get out to people, the amount of them breaking AND the fact that sales of the 360 will never "boom" in places like Japan. The PS3? It didn't boom in its 1st year either. The PS2 boomed after it was out for quite some time as well, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about, get your supposed FACTS right before you waste our time.

Jul. 24th, 2007 9:29 pm

hcHooley

I've had my 360 since launch w/o issue. I also have a Wii. I enjoy both, but I love my 360 more. There's only 2 games I like for the Wii thus far...

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:25 pm

ElektroDragon

TOO MANY GAMES!!! ENOUGH ALREADY!! I WANT ONE GAME RELEASED PER CONSOLE PER MONTH! I can't even begin to play even the ones I LIKE now!

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:55 pm

Lightflare

I laugh at these comments. Instead of being happy with the console(s) you already own, you losers choose to piss away your time by arguing about which console is the best and which is the worst. Who gives a f*** which is the best and which is the worst? The argument is going nowhere, stop wasting your time. Be happy with what you already own, and stop being such big crybabies. You sound pathetic.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:30 pm

Blades�nger

Tkadri85

One answer retard: Because Nintendo is broadning the market. Simple fact of the matter is that you leave out the pretty graphics, the massive amounts of system resources and hardware, and what do ya have, you have companies regurgatating the SAME Fing GAMEPLAY STYLES THAT HAVE BEEN THE NORM SINCE THE PSX. Same kind of control schemes, same style of gameplay is what's killing this industry in the first place.

Banking on losing? Wow, why don't you show me that nintendo employee's badge that your leading us to believe you have, because from the sounds of it, your one of those lucky people who get to sit in Kyoto, JA and rub elbows with Iwata-san himself. Poeple like you talk like this, because either A: your being paid to talk like this or B: You fu**ed up and bought one of the systems that are losing, so you've decided to put on that football fan hat and get seriously retarded about any other compatition that exists out there.

And to answer your question about having parties at our homes, yea some of us have it so easy we can throw multiple during the week....

And yes, they did further the market.....CONSIDERABLY

Jul. 24th, 2007 4:58 pm

rando310

Wii = Garbage

Huh, at least they don't break down every 6 months like some other console I own..and I am currently on my 4th

The Wii is awesome, and will get the games that the hardcore gamers want, along with all the other games the younger audiences, mommas, and grannys want too.

The 360 is also awesome, but DOESN'T LAST LONGER THAN 6 MONTHS (

Jul. 24th, 2007 3:16 pm

SpartanX360

Tkadri85 hes totally right he's got a point.

Nintendo its aiming like it was in the 80's remember powerglove??? stunk and failed remember nitendo robot??? still crapped out, remember Virtual Boy?? with its fake 3d ad campaign? flopped out not really 3D it was all 2D bloodshot red , remember gameboy camera?? cool but it dint last long.

But i think this era wii will be fading away, a fad its like you play a toy then later u gave up ure liking this new toy goes on and on and on.

Well pls dont even try to compare ill-fated dreamcast was one of the best system ever launched and its still loved by Dc owners and its great party game had countles gaming sessions with powerstone 2 many other games I have, sony got stunked and launched their ps2.

Jul. 24th, 2007 3:11 pm

no1

Well said, Dusk and WhitebeardedGnu...

Dusk, "More fun" IMO...
The PS3 is just spooling up. It wouldn't surprise me if MS and Nintendo had to produce two consoles to Sony's one this time around. Hard to say.

tkadri85, I own the Wii and haven't played it for several months but I don't regret it. I'm not too concerned about what it is and isn't capable of. What's important is that I have fun with it, which I will be doing this weekend. I'm having friends and family over for a huge Wii Sports party and it's going to be a blast.

Also, you've let it be known that it didn't work out for you, so why not just leave it at that?

Jul. 24th, 2007 2:27 pm

RicanWraith

tkadri85

it's not worth the money in your opinion.
&
idk what my friends play, we only play the party games when I play.
but they do have good games.

just not in your opinion.

Jul. 24th, 2007 2:21 pm

tkadri85

Lol, by "all that" I'm sure you're referring to the numerous quality titles on the Wii P.O.S.

Jul. 24th, 2007 2:19 pm

tkadri85

"They like Zelda and all that."

Define "all that"......

Jul. 24th, 2007 2:17 pm

tkadri85

The number of people that I know personally and have seen post about regretting buying the Wii is proof in and of itself.

I'm not trying to shove my opinion down anyone's throat. I'm just letting them know that if they get the system, they will more than likely regret it later on. The Wii is not an economical purchase. You are not getting what you pay for. It is overpriced and not worth the money.

Jul. 24th, 2007 2:17 pm

RicanWraith

tkadri85

& i know people that enjoy the Wii for what it is.
They like Zelda and all that.

Just cuz you seem to have this undying hatred towards it, doesn't mean the majority of people feel as you do.

so please, for everyone's sake.
STFU.
&
GTFO.

Jul. 24th, 2007 2:13 pm

RicanWraith

tkadri85

i think you're putting wayyy too much time into this.

Take a break.

You're typing up a storm but everyone is gonna have their opinions no matter how long you try to shove your opinion down their throats.

Jul. 24th, 2007 2:12 pm

tkadri85

And another thing. People talk so much about the Wii being a party console this and a party console that. Do you guys have non-stop parties going on in your houses? How often do you have these get-togethers? Once a week? Maybe even twice a week. If you buy an additional 3 controllers for the Wii that adds up to $120 plus 250 and you get $370. $370 dollars to used a system once every two weeks? On an underpowered system? With a pathetic library of games? No online? No DVD? No fresh ips in sight? Another Gamecube in the making?

Still, no one has answered my question.

Why couldn't Nintendo make a console with good graphics as well. Why couldn't they make a system that had good graphics as well as the controller. Because they were playing it safe. Banking on losing. Honestly, what can anyone say that Nintendo has done so far this gen that is revolutionary. From a graphics standpoint, GOW was revolutionary. Halo could be revolutionary if it does everything right. The 360 is revolutionary, mainly Live Marketplace and Arcade. What has Nintendo done that is revolutionary besides put out a motion-sensing controller. Nothing.

Jul. 24th, 2007 1:58 pm

tkadri85

Nintendo's marketing slogan should read:

Nintedo Wii- Gaming for the Wiitarded

The only history Nintendo might make with the Wii is that they will be the first company to sell the most consoles and still have the least software revenue, though they have to sell the consoles first which I dont think happen. I've seen and played the Wii and I'm not impressed. Nothing but a mini-game with a magic wand. FPS sucks, shoddy! This is actually somewhat suprising seeing as many people touted the wand as fps friendly. I don't see how some people sit on here saying, "Women love it!". Yeah, and women also love myspace, another complete waste of tiime.

But, they are both good at one thing. Entertaining the easily amused. How about this. All you guys that think Wii is so great, send me a check for $250 and I send you a stick with a rope and rock attached to it. It's entertainment for hours.

Jul. 24th, 2007 1:48 pm

Kittridge

seriously why would we here at teamxbox **NOTE: teamXBOX** care about Nintendo's little fact sheet? leave it for teamnintendo!!1

Jul. 24th, 2007 1:45 pm

warrior117

f@ck the pewii im happy with my 360 & ps3 nintendo forgot da we are not kids anymore.

Jul. 24th, 2007 1:45 pm

tkadri85

Okay. You want facts. Lets do facts.

1. Wii is the weakest of the "next-gen" consoles.
2. Wii is the equivalent of the original Xbox power-wise, though it is slightly more powerful.
3. The Wii is the least economical of the 3 consoles.
4. The attach rate of the Wii is FAR less than that of the 360.
5. The Xbox 360 has sold more systems (I KNOW THE 360 HAS BEEN OUT LONGER!)
6. The 360 has had more top-selling games than the Wii.
7. The only major difference between an Xbox and a Wii is the controller.
8. The Wii doesn't even have a year under it. (Sales will always be booming in the first year).

Jul. 24th, 2007 1:34 pm

gamestation2000

Wii is a like a party system. I have one and it is fun....yet i haven't turned it on in weeks. Guitar Hero II, All Pro 2k8, TDU, DiRT, and Forza 2 have been keeping me busy enough. I even rented the new Harry Potter for both systems and the 360 version was just more enjoyable to me. The graphics just looked soooo much better (NINTENDO SHOT THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT WHEN THEY DIDN'T GO HD!!! IDIOTS!!!) and what MS has done with their "Achievements" has made the game a lot more enjoyable on the 360. It's always to nice when a game tells you that you've been kicking arse.

Jul. 24th, 2007 1:30 pm

RicanWraith

"tkadri85
But as I stated earlier. Only simple-minded people can fine ENDLESS entertainment in the Wii."

and you know this how?
it's your opinion.

Different systems for different people.
Not every one is as close minded as you are.

Jul. 24th, 2007 1:29 pm

Blades�nger

Uh, who said I use my video gaming machines to pick up woman, sure wasn't me, I only stated that on any given night that I throw a get together all my work mates WIVES and GIRLFRIENDS enjoy playing the Wii more then my other systems.

Been married for 12 years now and sure as hell don't need to pick anyone up =)

Nintendo's marketing machine is only now ramping up, give it a year or two, the Wii will end up just like the DS, so far ahead of the other systems in sales and popularity, that there'll be no catching up.

Last I heard, the DS was labeled a gimmick as well =)

Jul. 24th, 2007 1:28 pm

RicanWraith

"tkadri85
WhitebeardedGnu, NO, NO, NO. Nobody cares about motion sensing until it can be done right, in a full body virtual reality suit."

You continue to state opinion as fact.
funnnyyy

Jul. 24th, 2007 1:08 pm

Pureshooter

Why don't I like the Wii? Because it's overpriced and they could've essentially added the motion sensor controller as a GameCube peripheral and would be where they're at right now from a technical standpoint. Their sales are bolstered by the uninformed consumer. If you are an adult gamer, it is by far the worst system to own, by itself.

It is, however, the best system to own as a second system. It's cheap enough for someone with a PS3 or 360 to just "pickup" and it offers a different gaming experience. I think Nintendo is brilliant from a marketing standpoint, but this thing simply wouldn't fly for anyone but them.

Jul. 24th, 2007 12:53 pm

tkadri85

WhitebeardedGnu, NO, NO, NO. Nobody cares about motion sensing until it can be done right, in a full body virtual reality suit. Yet, that isn't practical for home use and wouldn't be economical for quite some time. The Wii's controller isn't very versatile either and has a limited range of use.

Jul. 24th, 2007 12:47 pm

tkadri85

Blades�nger, if you need a video game system to get women, then I pity you. But as I stated earlier. Only simple-minded people can fine ENDLESS entertainment in the Wii. Take Fusion Frenzy for the Xbox or Fusion Frenzy 2 for the 360. Those are two games that are similar to the Wii sports style of play. There is nothing revolutionary about playing simple mini games. THAT'S ALL WII SPORTS IS.

When I think of women that find the Wii "fun," I can't help but think of that one Family Guy episode where Bryan is dating that one dumb blonde chick and he shines the laser pointer on the wall to distract her. Nuff said.

Jul. 24th, 2007 12:46 pm

WhitebeardedGnu

I don't understand how most people think next-gen means HD. Sure HD was the main selling point of this generation (HD DVD/Bluray for movies, along with 360 and PS3).. What Nintendo is doing is their version of what the next generation should be. Sony realized this fact as well when they threw in the six-axis bit.

Microsoft and Sony will gear more towards Nintendo's "gimmick" in the following "generations", just watch.

No matter what Microsoft and Sony say in regards to Nintendo's "gimmick", it's mostly just a ploy because hell, Nintendo IS competing with Microsoft and Sony to some extent, no matter the fact that they both say they don't consider Nintendo as competition.

Just wait and see what happens in the real next generation, because graphics don't mean anything if the immersion factor isn't prevalent. Physics, AI, the Art style (HD graphics or not, if the art isn't believable in the context of the game world HD means **** all, and by ART I also mean the animations), and the actual way of playing the game all matter when it comes to true immersion.

Nintendo's new controller while a bit sketchy if done wrong (most if not all the FPS games that have hit so far are pretty bad, but I'll wait until Metroid Prime because apparently it fixes most if not all the past issues for FPS on Wii) is definately not a gimmick as it is paving the way for future innovations in game immersion.

Jul. 24th, 2007 12:32 pm

Dusk

Bladesinger, I hear Nintendo is coming out with Wii-brothel this fall. Also, I saw that Quagmire just got a Wii, 'giggety giggety.'

Jul. 24th, 2007 12:27 pm

Dusk

Actually, no1, you are more right than you think. It's not a new concept. MS had motion controllers for the PC years ago and it never caught on. However, saying it is 'more fun' is completely subjective. Personally, I found it fun for a very short while, then longed for the tried-and-true controller. The motion sensing really hits home for kids and women. Parents buying stuff for their children will keep the Wii in business, it did for the Gamecube, but I'm not sure it will sustain the current sales rate of the Wii for that much longer. Women, while any added sales are great, also won't sustain the current Wii sales. Therefore it comes down to men, specifically men ages 18-35. Unfortunately, I think this group cares the least about the Wii-mote, Wii-zapper, and Wii aerobics. What they do care about, are games like Halo, GTA, Madden, online play, great graphics and gameplay, HD display, etc. It's this demographic that got the PS2 to reach 100 million. It's this demographic that will get the Wii and/or 360 past 25 million. It's this demographic that will hopefully save the PS3 from being the disaster it has been so far. Additionally, the games for the Wii don't target this age group either. Just look at the pictures on the game cases from each of the consoles and you'll see what I mean.

Jul. 24th, 2007 12:17 pm

Lomy

omg, what a clown... lol..

yup the neighbourhood women are piling out your front door... hahahha as if....

Jul. 24th, 2007 12:11 pm

Blades�nger

tkadri85 and to all the other idiots that say it's a GC under that shell...

Wii is actually as powerful as the original xbox. =P

Really want to know the greatest part of owning one of these?

Woman love this thing to death and completely ignore my 360 and PS3, so go ahead and tout that graphics are what makes a great system, and I'll keep enjoying the 20 or so bouncing, giggling woman that have made my living room the greatest place to be right now =)

Jul. 24th, 2007 12:08 pm

akirax360

I see the argument of the Wii is fun implying that consoles like the 360 are not "fun", The people that say this obviously have never played on Xbox Live with games like "The Outfit" or "Marble Madness". We are talking about hours upon hours gaming sessions with 1 game. The "fun" factor continues after the party gaming on a Wii is over.

Jul. 24th, 2007 12:03 pm

akirax360

How is the Wii destroying the competition when the 360 still has the majority share for next-gen consoles.

When most ask the question "Is Wii really next-gen?", My answer, kinda, sorta but not fully.

If anyone think the Wii is fully next-gen then Nintendo won the console wars long ago when the DS numbers surpassed all of the current next-gen consoles.

Jul. 24th, 2007 12:01 pm

Jimmy Patterson

People are cheap. thats why the wii has had so much "success". Do your research and find something thats actually valuable and you'll be playing a year from now.

Jul. 24th, 2007 11:51 am

no1

In fact, I would much rather be able to move around, swing the sword, and shoot the bow and arrow in Oblivion, naturally, than to just smash buttons. Anyone can smash buttons.

It's just too bad MS and Sony weren't on the same page as Nintendo. Otherwise, we might be having an even better experience and a hella lot more fun.

It's not a new concept. If you've ever used a steering wheel for your driving games you know what I'm talking about...

Jul. 24th, 2007 11:43 am

Scrappylive

Fact- Jamesz28 doesn't know how to spell Xbox.

Fact- Jamesz28 doesn't play anything other than Halo.

Fact- Wii is awesome.

Fact- Xbox 360 is awesome as well.

Jul. 24th, 2007 11:32 am

Jamesz28

Fact- The wii is less powerful than XBox 1.

Fact- The wii can't run a first person shooter.

Fact- wii is lame.

Jul. 24th, 2007 11:25 am

no1

The Wii is the true nexgen if ya ask me. It's more interactive and therefore, more fun. Being able to do the in-game moves as opposed to just pushing buttons is where it's at, boys. Get used to it. It's coming.

You gotta know MS and Sony won't stand for this and are working on their version of it as we speak. They can't let the sleeping giant, IntendNo, get the upper hand, now, can they?

Jul. 24th, 2007 11:18 am

emilmuller

I can't believe that sucky console is selling at all. I had for a month and sold it on e-Bay. My eyes still hurt from the pixellation syndrome on my HDTV. CoD 4, Bioshock, Mass Effect and of course Halo 3 should wipe this sorry excuse for entertainment from the charts.

Jul. 24th, 2007 11:08 am

TheRoadDog87

This whole "fun fact" BS is nice and all... but Halo 3 is only a few months away haha. Lets see the "fun facts" a year from now.

my bold prediction is that the 360 dominates with the arrival of H3. just think about how it wudve gone had the ps2 not had GTA:SA when H2 came out. this time around, xbox360 doesnt have to compete with that as GTA is embracing the 360.

personally i bought GTA:SA on the ps2 the day it came out, playd it for a month or so until i waited at midnight the night H2 came out and to this day i have not touched my ps2 since... the success of the 360 has come without its bread and butter so far, u all just wait...

Jul. 24th, 2007 11:07 am

SpartanX360

As the angry videogame nerd says;

Nitendo totally f*ck nuts!!! what are they thinking!!!
No games all just sh1tty games nothing more rather take dog poo smear all over it!!

Anyways I too hate nitendo in sega genesis era or (megadrive for all you purists)
Even always have the same games over and over and over so when are getting any original games??... But no just only mario, pokemon, metroid and Co.

The wii graphics its just oveclocked you see everything white along their outlines why their games has white outlines??? look at mario galaxy why mario has white outlines! look at oh so crappy dung balls Far Cry:Hunter everything has white outlines and its soo piss poor ugly game man!!

Anyways my dad got a wii with wii sports and Fight night and its eating dust as its daily diet, he rather play pc games than a wii so ill trade it in for 360 game o well.

Jul. 24th, 2007 10:35 am

tkadri85

People tout the Wii as a "social" system, a party machine so to speak. If that is the case, you would need more controllers. Once you factor that in, the Wii is more expensive than a 360 core

Jul. 24th, 2007 10:33 am

BLDz

"tkadri85
Xbox Core = 300
Plus, if you get a Wii and plan on having lots of friends over, those controllers add up, adding anywhere from 60 to 120 onto the cost of the system depending on which version of the controller that you get"

Ok...

Kid says "Hey dad, can I have an Xbox 360 Core"
Dad says "Are you a retard?"

Jul. 24th, 2007 10:32 am

tkadri85

No, I'm actually at work, but today is a slow day at the office, so I have some free time.

Jul. 24th, 2007 10:29 am

Coffee Buzz

Women like the Wii because they are too uncoordinated to use a regular controller. Plus, the ones who are coordinated enough are lazy. When have you met a chick who couldn't type. Chicks know how to type because they sit online writing worthless crap on their myspace accounts all day.
_________________________________________________________________
...so are you a chick, or do you have this comment forum confused for "My Space"?

You must be one of the above, because you've been spewing your crap for 3.5 hours on this comment board already.

c[_]

Jul. 24th, 2007 10:27 am

tkadri85

Xbox Core = 300
Plus, if you get a Wii and plan on having lots of friends over, those controllers add up, adding anywhere from 60 to 120 onto the cost of the system depending on which version of the controller that you get

Jul. 24th, 2007 10:22 am

BLDz

Kid says, "Hey Dad, can I have a PS3?"
Dad says "How much are they?"
Kid says "$599"
Dad says "Are you nuts? For a video game console? NO!"

Kid says "Well, ok, how about a Xbox 360?"
Dad says "How much is that one?"
Kid says "$399"
Dad says "That's still too much for a game. NO!"

Kid says "Well, hmmm, ok, it's not my first or second choice, but how about a Wii?"
Dad says "How much is it?"
Kid says "$249"
Dad says "Well, ok, maybe we can spend that much on a toy."

And another Wii sells....

Jul. 24th, 2007 10:06 am

DOOM

Instead of taking a step forward, Wii takes a step backwards, by dumbing down the gaming experience in order to appeal to the masses. Hell, why not just give them a paddle ball or sit them under a water dropper and let the watch the water drop. HOURS OF FUN!

I hear ya bro... The Tard Station!

Jul. 24th, 2007 10:01 am

tkadri85

But instead since people are generally too lazy, the Wii appeals to the simply amused. "Weeee! I'm swinging my virtual stick at a piniata.

Instead of taking a step forward, Wii takes a step backwards, by dumbing down the gaming experience in order to appeal to the masses. Hell, why not just give them a paddle ball or sit them under a water dropper and let the watch the water drop. HOURS OF FUN!

Jul. 24th, 2007 9:59 am

tkadri85

The Wii is a testament to how simple some people's minds are. Here we are looking forward in gaming, looking for the next big gaming experience. We expect complex and original stories, great graphics and gameplay, sometimes great musical scores as well. Then along come the Wii.

The Wii provides subpar graphics, overlysimplistic gameplay and is for the most part a step back. Most people that do like the Wii for parties mostly use Wii sports, do they not? If so, all that is is a piece of software. That can be made for the 360. It is nothing innovative.

Women like the Wii because they are too uncoordinated to use a regular controller. Plus, the ones who are coordinated enough are lazy. When have you met a chick who couldn't type. Chicks know how to type because they sit online writing worthless crap on their myspace accounts all day.

If you can learn to type on a keyboard, you can learn to use a controller. It annoys me when people say that video game controllers are too complicated for the average person, yet girls can learn how to type on a keyboard. If there is incentive, people will learn.

Jul. 24th, 2007 9:45 am

Mr Bourne

Another Facts:

11.- In general the wii games suck!!!

12.-The only good game of the Wii is Zelda Twilight Princess.

Jul. 24th, 2007 9:32 am

tleluron

the wii is selling fast even tho it is a GC under a new cover with ugly gfx and average to bad games for the most part....but it will catch up to the 360 soon in sales number in the world...for me the fad is gone, i got it for my son and now it is collecting dust even him wont touch it cus there are barely any games worth buying...but with it low price and family attrction, it will always sell lots..that is nintendo power!!!

Jul. 24th, 2007 9:26 am

KhaoZ

The wii is just at the right price for the average person. I know so many people who own one. Most of the people I know who have one, are College kids to young adults(24-30). Nintendo has just done an amazing job at making something affordable, that almost anyone could enjoy.

The average person isn't a hardcore gamer, or a FPS lover. The Average person has no real game preference, and just likes to have fun a few nights a weeks. wii is perfect for these average people. And like most parents who are wanting to get wii's, they can claim it's for their kids too. My buddy bought a wii for himself, but told his wife it was for their 8 year old, but then found that his wife plays it more than any of them.

Jul. 24th, 2007 9:17 am

blackskimmer

Isnt anyone else getting rather sick of Nintendo prancing around rubbing all these figures into the hardcore gamers face?, "we Nintendo dont need you SEE?!" -cue entrance of the Wii-fit Yoga board.

Jul. 24th, 2007 9:06 am

MKV62591

I have played both.

They are different markets. The Wii is marketed to the following demographics: Moms, elderly, young kids.

The Xbox 360 is being marketed to: males age 14-40.

Its obvious who is willing to spend more on gaming which is evidenced by the fact that there are more Wii consoles sold than Wii games.

I much prefer my Xbox 360 with deep games, great graphics, and incredible online. I also like not having to spend extra for another DVD player. (Wii cant play DVDs)

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:50 am

tkadri85

"but does graphics make a system garbage?
No. The system has good games, FUN games.

Since when do graphics mean everything in the gaming experience?"

No, but it does make a system overpriced. The Wii is nothing but a GC with a new controller. Now you might say, "Well the 360 just got a graphics upgrade". Well, untill consoles reach photo-realism and real-life physics, graphic card and memory upgrades can enhance immersion, gameplay, and other aspects.

Graphics aren't everything, but they are something. If graphics weren't important, people would still be playing Super Nintendos. The Wii has games that are fun for a couple days, then reality sets in: That one is playing a repetitie mini-game, that poses as a real game, while waving a want around in the air.

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:49 am

KoRnGtL15

Amazing. Even an Xbox site hypes the Wii and DS. I thought this was an xbox site? If I wanted to read nintendo news. I would go to an NINTENDO SITE AND THERE FORUMS.

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:42 am

RicanWraith

"tkadri85
Relatively speaking, yes the Wii is underpowered and that is fact, not opinion. "

but does graphics make a system garbage?
No. The system has good games, FUN games.

Since when do graphics mean everything in the gaming experience?

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:38 am

tkadri85

Relatively speaking, yes the Wii is underpowered and that is fact, not opinion. Compare tech specs between all the systems and the Wii is the least technically advanced. It's motion sensing technology is nothing new and has been explored already by other peripheral companies, many of which opted not to mass-produce the technology as they did not deem it practical.

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:34 am

cnieland

160 games out for the wii, sadly mine just sits unused, nothing out that really catches my eye.

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:34 am

tkadri85

prior post:

"I simply want MS to do well so they can continue to re-invest in the Xbox and it doesn't make sense to me to see people go out and buy a console just to say that they regret it a month later. That's money that could have gone to MS."

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:32 am

RicanWraith

'tkadri85
"No, i didn't buy a Wii.
lol"

Oh. I must have confused you with one of Nintendo's other hoes. Regardless, play, buy, it's all the same. If you support a sh!tty console, you might as well have owned it.'

It's your opinion that it's a sh!tty console.
Does that make it fact?

And since when was I a Nintendo hoe?
Only Nintendo systems I've owned were NES, SNES and Gameboy Advance SP.

Did you get sexually abused by someone dressed as Mario or what?
Why do you hate Nintendo so much?

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:29 am

tkadri85

"No, i didn't buy a Wii.
lol"

Oh. I must have confused you with one of Nintendo's other hoes. Regardless, play, buy, it's all the same. If you support a sh!tty console, you might as well have owned it.

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:26 am

M1nstral

i like the DS but the wii is a piece of 5 year-old junk. why would anyone pay $250 for that when the gamecube costs $100 brand new. stupid consumers.

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:24 am

Coffee Buzz

tkadri85

...apparently I am a mind reader, as it appears that I have you pegged to a "T".

Keep on keeping on, Mr. Angry Guy.

c[_]

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:24 am

soulfly3

The best thing about the wii is the hype the "it's selling so quick I have to get me one". I own all three and I must say, It's not worth $250 bucks. Plus they nail you on the controllers!!!

If you are happy or madly in love with the wii, the more power to you.

my wii still collecting dust, I bought it for my kids, but my kids rather play n64 or ps2. I purchased zelda for me but after a few hours into the game I had to ask myself wtf was I doing playing this gc game when I could be playing Oblivion.

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:19 am

RicanWraith

"tkadri85"

No, i didn't buy a Wii.
lol

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:15 am

tkadri85

""The only difference between the Wii and the 360 is the controller."

LOL"

I mean't in terms of party games. The software for the Wii party games could be mimicked and put on 360. The controls for the 360 controller could then be tweaked to allow the game to be played on the controller. Then, the only thing seperating the two systems would be the controller.

If you had bothered to read the rest of the posting, you would have seen the further explanation. But, I guess I can't expect too much. After all, you did buy a Wii.

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:14 am

Spartan 6453

It amazes me how many people continue to want one of these. At least until they finally get one and three months later wish they had their 250 bucks back. I'm not talking about the people who actually use this, but the moms, pops, aunts, and uncles who bought one and now it just collects dust.

Its still a fad, a slow dying fad as the supply isn't meeting the demand (future disappointment).

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:12 am

tkadri85

As far as I'm concerned the only people bashing the Wii are those that are fearful that a "different" gaming concept/system will have higher sales than their supposed system of choice. Guess what - it doesn't create an inferiority complex (it's only a piece of hardware), that's you doing it to yourself."

Uh, no. Unless your a mind reader, I suggest that you quit trying to read people's minds. I simply want MS to do well so they can continue to re-invest in the Xbox and it doesn't make sense to me to see people go out and buy a console just to say that they regret it a month later. That's money that could have gone to MS. I believe that the companies that put forth the best effort through their system (Dreamcast) should be rewarded by having good console and software sales. Instead, Nintendo puts out a half-assed effort with a gimmick alongside to lure naive mainstreamers, similar to EA. I simply telling things like they are. Nintendo's console division is a dying horse that simply copped out. Period.

You can talk all you want to, but the bottom line is that there was no reason why Nintedo coulnd't have put out a more powerful system to go alongside their controller so that the consumer could have a more enhanced graphic and visual experience. They didn't because they were banking to lose so they put out an underpowered system with a gimmick. I don't think that even Nintendo expected themselves to do as well as they did.

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:05 am

RicanWraith

"The only difference between the Wii and the 360 is the controller."

LOL

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:00 am

tkadri85

People act like the Wii is so innovative. No, it isn't. Game developers have been making party games for consoles for the longest time. There are party games on Xbox 360 and Xbox Live Arcade. The only difference between the Wii and the 360 is the controller. Party games with simplistic controls can be made for the 360. It wouldn't be hard to do. A lot of "regular" video games don't even have difficult that controls. Maybe if some people didn't have the attention span of a five-year old, then the 360's controller might not be such a problem.

Jul. 24th, 2007 8:00 am

Coffee Buzz

I have a 360 and a Wii, and I have to honestly say that I enjoy both - for different reasons.

If you don't like the Wii, or think it's a NGC in disguise, that's fine - don't buy one. The perverbial gun is not to your head.

The Wii is expanding the gaming forum into new areas (it's called progress and diversity). Either get on the train and enjoy the ride, or don't, and deal with it. Honestly, who cares if Nintendo didn't want to compete with MS and Sony (if that's true) - that's entirely their perogative to do so. It's their company to run, not yours.

"Oh no, I'm growing up, my gaming tastes are changing and Nintendo is no longer catering to me. I am cry." Buy a 360 or a PS3 and shut up.

As far as I'm concerned the only people bashing the Wii are those that are fearful that a "different" gaming concept/system will have higher sales than their supposed system of choice. Guess what - it doesn't create an inferiority complex (it's only a piece of hardware), that's you doing it to yourself.

/rant

c[_]

P.S. Teamxbox - thank you for continuing to post news on my beloved 360 and Wii, as well as, the PS3. I enjoy the "one stop" news source that you provide for me. As well, I'm also capable of using the TABS so that I can filter out the news that is not of interest to me.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:55 am

ZBOX

The DS is unstoppable. :0

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:52 am

tkadri85

Most of the people that I know that have bought Wiis, have regretted it. I wasn't too suprised.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:48 am

tkadri85

For the second or third time, companies make a minimal amount from the console sale. They make most of their money from the games.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:47 am

RicanWraith

'tkadri85
"Necessity is the mother of invention"

Nintendo tapped into the "family" market because they had to. They had lost the "regular" gaming market. They were faced with 2 options. Find a new market or don't make a console at all.'

no matter how you put it, they made a smart move, because DS and Wii are flying off shelves and have been for months.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:46 am

RicanWraith

"tkadri85
There is nothing smart about what they did because "family gamers" do not spend big dollars on games. They might buy 1 or 2 games and that's it. COMPANIES MAKE MONEY, for the most part, OFF GAME SALES. LOOK AT NINTENDO'S ATTACH RATE. It speaks for itself really. I even heard people who bought the Wii saying that they regretted it. Not just a couple people but numerous people."

they may not buy games, but look at all the systems they are buying.

&you saying "I heard" whatever means nothing to me.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:46 am

tkadri85

"Necessity is the mother of invention"

Nintendo tapped into the "family" market because they had to. They had lost the "regular" gaming market. They were faced with 2 options. Find a new market or don't make a console at all.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:42 am

tkadri85

There is nothing smart about what they did because "family gamers" do not spend big dollars on games. They might buy 1 or 2 games and that's it. COMPANIES MAKE MONEY, for the most part, OFF GAME SALES. LOOK AT NINTENDO'S ATTACH RATE. It speaks for itself really. I even heard people who bought the Wii saying that they regretted it. Not just a couple people but numerous people.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:40 am

pr0phets0f0old

Isn't June one of the slower months in the industry? I wonder what they will say in September or November? Wii is fine but it still doesn't have a Mario nor a new must have IP. I'm also waiting for them to get with the program and get the freaking consoles in the store. What the heck are they going to do when they release the new Mario or Metroid?

There are only 4 games I want for the wii right now: Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime: Corruption, Zelda, and Rayman. That's it! I can't justify buying this with sooooo many great 360 titles coming out. I don't have enough money for them much less for a wii with 2 desirable games!

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:39 am

RicanWraith

"tkadri85"

nintendo became a family company when they saw it would be profitable.

stop hating them because they did a smart thing.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:37 am

RicanWraith

Gritz

"So sales determines how good a console is? I guess the dreamcast was crap than...."

I never said that.
It's doing well AND it's a well made system.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:36 am

tkadri85

"like if you dont like the Wii, fine DONT BUY IT, dont go onto a forum and freak out about it to a bunch of people who dont give a **** what you think/say."

If you don't care, then why did you reply?

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:34 am

tkadri85

"Nintendo is a family company. Wii is a family system, a good system."

Nintendo has had it's fair share of M-rated games. Goldeneye, the N64's flagship title, wasn't exactly a family friendly game. It also had Turok and Mortal Kombat among many other T or M rated games. Ninted became a family friendly company after they got shoved out of the spotlight by Sony and MS. I don't see why it is so hard for people to realise that all this was is a gimmick. WHY COULDN'T NINTEDO PUT OUT A SYSTEM THAT HAD THE WII CONTROLLER BUT STILL GOOD GRAPHICS? Because they couldn't afford it. They bombed with the N64 and bombed with the GC. If they had put out a high-end system and failed, they would have gone near bankrupt, with only the DS holding them afloat. They couldn't afford to make a good system so instead they just focused on making a good controller to sucker people with a gimmick. I don't think Nintedo's console sales will last long. And even if they do, with the poor attach rate, Nintendo won't make too much money from it.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:32 am

Mykel85

Nintendo does make money off of their systems unlike Micorsoft and Sony. The Wii is a GREAT system it just doesn't have that hardcore gaming edge yet. I own the PS3, 360, and the Wii and I can say that my favorite is not the Wii.

BUT if I just want to play a game for 10 minutes or if i'm having a lot of people over nothing is better than playing some Wii Bowling.

The point is the Wii is far to different than the PS3 and 360 to be compared to them. Oh and you want to talk about M rated games? Resident 4 Wii edition is better than A LOT of FPS for 360 or PS3 and thats the truth and that game came out in 2004!

The Wii hasn't even been out a year...give it time it may suprise you! Does anyone remeber how crappy the 360 line up was when it first came out? Back then people where excited for Perfect Dark Zero.......SERIOUSLY!!!

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:30 am

DavidGX

Since when is this www.teamWii.com?

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:30 am

HiPNoTyQ

like if you dont like the Wii, fine DONT BUY IT, dont go onto a forum and freak out about it to a bunch of people who dont give a **** what you think/say.

I bought the Wii, I'm very happy with it so it was money well spent. I dont think about the technicalities of 'gimmicks' or graphics or whatever, if I'm having fun thats all that matters. I use my Wii more than my 360, does that mean the 360 is a crappy system? No it doesn't because my buddy down the hall loves his. Do I go onto some random internet forum and freak out about it trying to prove some pointless **** to a bunch of strangers? No... I chill

You should too tkadri85, for your own good

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:28 am

Gritz

"you claim the Wii is such garbage, but as of now they're destroying the competition by a long shot.

i wouldn't buy one, but i wouldn't call it garbage when it's doing so well."

So sales determines how good a console is? I guess the dreamcast was crap than....

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:25 am

HiPNoTyQ

like jesus this tkadri85 guy must work for MS or sony cuz he HATES the Wii
Take a chill pill man, its an inanimate object, don't stress over it so much

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:24 am

HiPNoTyQ

The Wii's stuff is no more gimmicky than PS3's sixaxis or 360's Achievement Points so leave it alone tkadri85

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:23 am

tkadri85

To the people who say that the Wii is good for parties, how often do you have parties? And when you do, does the Wii come out at every party? Plus, for how long? I don't know about some people here, but I am not about to spend around 300 dollars for something that I am going to used every once and a while.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:21 am

tkadri85

Like I already mentioned, the Wii has a pathetic attach rate. Big deal, it has sold more systems. The companies make the majority of their money off the games. Though with Nintendo's pathetic attach rate, the main source of income for them probably is the console sales because once people buy the system, they can't find any games worth playing.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:18 am

HiPNoTyQ

i guess if you think about it, Duke Nukem 3D is more hardcore than Halo. Sure Halos got the cartoony violence that Duke has but DN3D's got strippers, steroids, a kick ass character with sick one-liners (lol @ Master Chief yelling something like "EAT **** AND DIE" after capping someone)

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:15 am

HiPNoTyQ

lol so M rating means its for hardcore gamers?

mario or zelda are just as hardcore as quake well in my eyes anyway

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:11 am

SergiyGru

That has nothing to do with the 360. Sony and Microsoft are basically in competition for the hardcore gamers (Thus microsoft has mass M rated games)

Nintendo is a family company. Wii is a family system, a good system.

Nintendo and microsoft are in totally different catigories so this isnt news.
(That atleast belongs on this site.)

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:06 am

vozroth

So what it's largely aimed for kids and it's cheap and great for the people that hardly play games . I have a few friends that own one and it just sits there collecting dust. LOL as a matter of fact so does my PS3. But my xbox360 gets a lot of attention.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:05 am

RicanWraith

"joeblow- The Wii is a party machine that everyone can play. It's an absolute blast when you get a large group of people together (some with gaming experience, and some with none). But when the party is over .. I still turn on my 360"

exactly my point.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:03 am

joeblow

I have both Wii and 360. Lets just say when it's just me... or I have a buddy over we tend to play the 360 and the deeper, more adult oriented titles. But the minute we have some couples over .. and the wives get playing .. out comes the Wii. The Wii is a party machine that everyone can play. It's an absolute blast when you get a large group of people together (some with gaming experience, and some with none). But when the party is over .. I still turn on my 360 to get in a game of Gears, DeadRising or whatever I am playing hardcore at the time. Wii360 combine to make all the gaming I need.

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:02 am

HiPNoTyQ

i like the wii so its not garbage :)
i like my 360 too

why are people so defensive over systems? its not like you ppl designed it lol

Jul. 24th, 2007 7:02 am

RicanWraith

"Chaos744"

I've played the Wii, it's not meant to be a graphics powerhouse, it's meant to be fun.
and it is.
i like playing it with my family and friends who really aren't into gaming.

there's nothing wrong with the system, Nintendo is doing everything just right.

p.s.
there's alot more adults than 12 year olds getting the Wii.

Jul. 24th, 2007 6:57 am

Chaos744

Two both comments below... the Wii is a gimmicky P.O.S! Like tkadri85 says.. the software blows hot chuncks of vomit. It's "destroying" the competition with 12 year olds.. hardly the people who can afford to splurge on games and whatnot. I have nintendo and their crappy wii. it was a waste of my 300 dollars. washed out graphics and a lame ass controller that looks like 8=bit nintendo with gyrator inside. i'll stick to my HD gaming with xbox 360 thank you very much

Jul. 24th, 2007 6:56 am

horngreen

Uh and MS and Sony don't have stale sequels? Even the new IPs are still just the same FPSs and crap with different characters and "storylines". It might be a gimmick to you but if Nintendo can gain ten new gamers by losing one "hardcore" gamer they will happily do so. Not taking chances on new Ips explains perfectly games like Killzone 2 "hey the first one stunk but it still generated hype so lets make another". Obviously Nintendo knew what they needed to do to remain competitive and in the end it will make them dominant for this round. It's not my type of console but you can't deny it's appeal to the masses.

Jul. 24th, 2007 6:53 am

RicanWraith

you claim the Wii is such garbage, but as of now they're destroying the competition by a long shot.

i wouldn't buy one, but i wouldn't call it garbage when it's doing so well.

Jul. 24th, 2007 6:36 am

tkadri85

Wii = gimmick

I remember thinking this the day the system was unveiled. I would never buy this P.O.S. All this was was a marketing ploy. Nintendo knew that they couldn't afford to play the "high-end" game and lose, so they went with an inferior system with a "revolutionary" controller. People make excuses that Nintendo was not trying to compete with Sony and Microsoft. That's because Nintedo knew they would lose. The software attachment rate for the Wii is pathetic. The game line-up sucks and won't get better anytime soon unless you consider stale sequels something to look forward to. Nintendo tried to compete with Sony with the N64 and was demolished. They tried again with the Gamecube and fell short. Why would Nintendo try for a third time. With consoles becoming more and more expensive to make and losses incurred per console growing, it would have been suicide. Nintedo didn't innovate with the Wii, they were just smart enough to know when and where to pick their battles.

Wii = garbage

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