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Radio Experts: Beck, Hannity Losing Philadelphia Market 'A Big Blow'

November 19, 2010 12:41 pm ET by Joe Strupp

Being knocked off of WPHT Radio in Philadelphia, the city's top talk radio station, is a significant blow to Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck, according to several local and national radio experts.

Those who spoke with Media Matters following the announcement Thursday that Beck and Hannity would no longer be heard on the station after January 17, said losing a top ten radio market will affect the duo's national standing.

"That leaves Hannity and Beck without a good strong affiliate in that market, and not a lot of prospects," said Katy Bachman, who covers radio for MediaWeek, an industry publication. "That is a blow to both of those guys to lose that market. Philadelphia is a top ten market and to lose it is a big deal."

Michael Harrison, publisher of Talkers Magazine, called the loss of that market "very significant."

"If you are on the top talk station in Philadelphia, that is a good thing. Philly is an important market."

WPHT did not even mention Beck or Hannity in its formal release announcing the change. The move gives up much of the station's daytime programming to two local personalities, among them Michael Smerconish, who is also syndicated.

Arbitron, the radio ratings group, ranks Philadelphia the eighth-largest market in the United States.

WPHT, meanwhile, is the 10th highest-rated radio station in the market out of 43 stations, and the highest-rated talk station.

"The idea that [Beck] is not being heard in this market hurts him and Hannity," said Michael Klein, who covers radio for the Philadelphia Inquirer. "If you are not on the air in a big city, it is a big blow." He later added, "it is an ego blow, they all want to be in the top ten. They do not want to be locked out."

Jack Klotz, who teaches media and communications at nearby Temple University, said the loss of the Philadelphia station to Beck and Hannity "could be a hit. It seems like it would be fairly big. They are a big talk station."

Ironically, Beck was once based at WPHT earlier in his career, doing his syndicated show from its studios between 2002 and 2006.

Premiere Radio, which syndicates Beck and Hannity, did not indicate if a new station for the two personalities in the same market had been found. Asked to comment on their removal from WPHT and if a new home had been found in Philadelphia for them, Premiere spokesperson Rachel Nelson sent the following statement:

While it's our policy not to comment on the business of our affiliates, we've appreciated our partnership with WPHT and look forward to sharing exciting news about The Sean Hannity Show and The Glenn Beck Program in the future.

Some observers said WPHT's decision may be a move to locally-based personalities more than a response to overall content. That could also hurt Beck and Hannity if it becomes a trend elsewhere.

"It is a concern around the country about local radio having value," Harrison said. "Local is something that many, many stations are flirting with."

Klein said the change could be less about ratings and more about revenue, noting that using a local personality could be more profitable if it draws certain advertisers.

"Say they spend $50,000 to hire Hannity, a number I am making up, and they bill $60,000 in ads, they make a profit," Klein explained. "But if they can have someone local to fill the spot for less and bill the same or more, that is more profitable."

He did say that Smerconish, a well-known voice on the station already, is less-conservative than Beck or Hannity: "He has always been labeled a conservative, but he is more centrist than Beck or Hannity. Our market is pretty centrist."

WPHT officials could not yet be reached for comment.

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    • Author by ThomasJH268 (November 19, 2010 12:55 pm ET)
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      OMG, Hannity and the Beckster are actually loosing the station because it would be cheaper to run someone less known. They are the "victims" of the same capitalist system they love so much. I'm loving it.

      Watch how they'll spin this so they can blame liberals.
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      • Author by pete592 (November 19, 2010 1:09 pm ET)
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        It's the dreaded Soros tentacles again.
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        • Author by Invent a Scandal (November 19, 2010 1:21 pm ET)
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          Buy up the station George, put on Ed Schultz and Thomm Hartman.

          Watch the wingbats scream.
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      • Author by stullivan (November 19, 2010 4:16 pm ET)
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        My Freedom of Speech!!!!!!!
        My Freedom fo Speech -- It's being taken away from me. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Fairness Doctrine!!!! Fairness Doctrine!!!!!!!!!

        Wealth RE-distribution Socialism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      • Author by Unreality (November 19, 2010 7:07 pm ET)
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        Creative Destruction, a core concept of modern capitalism, catches up.
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    • Author by ifthethunderdontgetya����� (November 19, 2010 12:56 pm ET)
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      "That leaves Hannity and Beck without a good strong affiliate in that market, and not a lot of prospects,"

      Couldn't happen to a more deserving couple of tools.
      ~
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      • Author by Invent a Scandal (November 19, 2010 1:23 pm ET)
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        These right-wing nuts control 90% of talk radio...

        Come on, you wealthy liberals, get a clue...buy some stations!!!
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    • Author by Russ139 (November 19, 2010 2:09 pm ET)
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      Having grown up there, and having lived in other parts of the U.S., I've always said that Philly people generally don't suffer fools, as the saying goes (when Limbaugh was entrenched in most parts of the country, he still wasn't on the air in Philadelphia.)

      It's a B.S. thing. In Philadelphia, they see it a mile away... and call it out. If you're an A-hole, you're going to know it.

      It's the way you're raised there.
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      • Author by worrierking (November 19, 2010 2:21 pm ET)
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        So was I. It gives you sort of a twisted perspective on everything. It seems that most Philadelphia parents instilled the BS detector at an early age.
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      • Author by JoeSixpack (November 19, 2010 3:20 pm ET)
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        I wasn't born or raised in Philly, but I've lived here for over 20 years, and it certainly does tune up the old b.s. detector, no doubt about it. The first couple of years were kinda rough for this small town boy from Wyoming, and I learned some lessons the hard way (nothing violent, thankfully), but I think by now my detector is almost as efficient as a Philly native's. It's kind of a good feeling, especially when I think back on how naive I once was.

        Your car broke down and you just need $5 to take the train home? Ok, here ya go pal, good luck to you.

        I started to get suspicious when the exact same guy's car supposedly broke down again a week later. I don't know if he thought I was a complete idiot who would fall for it again, or if he just lost track of who he'd scammed.

        Before today, however, I didn't even realize those dolts had ever been on Philly radio. I have a really hard time relating to people who listen to that sort of crap. The only talk radio I can stand is local boys Preston and Steve, and they're just a couple of good natured, minimally political goofballs. Only 2 things I really need in the morning - coffee and some laughs.
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      • Author by ponymeup (November 19, 2010 3:55 pm ET)
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        It really does seem that Philly is an "I don't think so" kinda place. Do something stupid and you just might get labeled stupid. Imagine that.
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    • Author by txthinker (November 19, 2010 2:14 pm ET)
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      Beck and Hannity will still be heard in teh Philly area - to a degree. Beck is carried by WOR and Hannity by WABC. These are both 50-000-watt clear channel stations in New York, 90 miles away. They come in loud and clear in Philly.
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      • Author by Laurence Glavin (November 19, 2010 2:33 pm ET)
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        Actually, WOR-AM 710 in New York is NOT a lower-case 'c' clear channel station. It's a regional, DIRECTIONAL station that suppresses some of its wattage towards the southwest to enhance its signal in The City. Meanwhile, WABC-AM 770 is in fact a tradition lower-case 'c' clear channel outlet with an omnidirectional transmitter in Lodi, NJ. But 90 miles over land is a long way for an AM signal to travel, especially with the kind of static-inducing electrical noise prevalent these days. And over the bridge from Philadelphia, in Camden, NJ, there's a local station on 800 that blasts into Philly.
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        • Author by txthinker (November 19, 2010 3:02 pm ET)
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          I grew up in NJ, and used to pick up both WABC and WOR loud and clear through many parts of eastern PA. In fact, I've picked up WABC as far south as Cape Hatteras, and as far north as Bath, ME. However, I haven't lived there since 1994, and things may have changed since then.

          I would suspect that the Camden station at 800 is far enough away in frequency to allow WABC at 770 to be heard. Besides, other stations in PA carry both radio pukefests, so it not like their voices are totally silenced.

          BECK AFFILIATES IN PA:

          Market Station Freq Air Time
          Allentown WAEB-AM 790 MoFr10a12p Sa3p6p
          Altoona WFBG-AM 1290 MoFr9a12p Sa6a9a
          Franklin WFRA-AM 1450 MoFr9a12p Sa12p3p
          Harrisburg WHP-AM 580 MoFr9a12p Sa7p10p
          Hughesville WRKK-AM 1200 MoFr3p6p
          Huntingdon WHUN-AM 1150 MoFr9a12p Sa6a9a Su7p10p
          Johnstown WNTJ-AM 1490 MoFr9a12p Sa6a9a
          Johnstown WNTW-AM 990 MoFr9a12p Sa6a9a
          Meadville WMGW-AM 1490 MoFr9a12p Sa12p3p
          Milton WMLP-AM 1380 MoFr9a12p
          Mount Pocono WPLY-AM 960 MoFr10a12p Sa6a9a
          New Castle WKST-AM 1200 MoFr9a1130a
          Philadelphia WPHT-AM 1210 MoFr9a12p
          Pittsburgh WPGB-FM 104.7 MoFr10a12p Sa3p4p
          Shippensburg WEEO-FM 103.7 MoFr9a12p Sa6a9a
          State College WRSC-AM 1390 MoFr9a12p Sa6a9a Su7p10p
          Stroudsburg WVPO-AM 840 MoFr10a12p Sa6a9a
          Titusville WTIV-AM 1230 MoFr9a12p Sa12p3p
          Warren WNAE-AM 1310 MoFr9a12p
          Williamsport WRAK-AM 1400 MoFr3p6p
          York WSBA-AM 910 MoFr9a12p


          HANNITY AFFILIATES IN PA:

          City Station Wattage Freq Air Time
          Allentown WAEB-AM 3.6 KW 790 M-F: 3p-6p
          Altoona WFBG-AM 5 KW 1290 M-F: 3p-6p
          Dover WDOV-AM 5 KW 1410 M-F: 3p-6p
          Du Bois WCED-AM 5000 1420 M-F: 3p-6p
          Erie WJET-AM 1 KW 1400 M-F: 3p-6p
          Everett WZSK-AM 10 KW 1040 M-F: 3p-6p
          Fort Worth WBAP-AM 50 KW 820 M-F: 2p-5p
          Franklin WFRA-AM 1 KW 1450 M-F: 3p-6p
          Harrisburg WHP-AM 5 KW 580 M-F: 6p-9p
          Huntingdon WHUN-AM 5 KW 1150 M-F: 3p-6p
          Johnstown WNTJ-AM 1 KW 1490 M-F: 3p-6p
          Lebanon WLBR-AM 5 KW 1270 M-F: 3p-6p
          Meadville WMGW-AM 1 KW 1490 M-F: 3p-6p
          Milton WMLP-AM 10000 1380 M-F: 3p-6p
          Morgantown WAJR-AM 5 KW 1440 M-F: 3p-6p
          New Castle WKST-AM 5 KW 1200 M-F: 3p-6p
          Oil City WOYL-AM 1 KW 1340 M-F: 3p-6p
          Philadelphia WPHT-AM 50 KW 1210 M-F: 3p-6p
          Pittsburgh WPGB-FM 13 KW 104.7 M-F: 3p-6p
          Somerset WNTW-AM 10 KW 990 M-F: 3p-6p
          State College WRSC-FM 2 KW 103.1 M-F: 3p-6p
          Titusville WTIV-AM 1 KW 1230 M-F: 3p-6p
          Warren WNAE-AM 5 KW 1310 M-F: 3p-6p
          Williamsport WWPA-AM 1 KW 1340 M-F: 3p-6p
          Wilmington WILM-AM 1 KW 1450 M-F: 3p-6p
          York WSBA-AM 5 KW 910 M-F: 3p-6p

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          • Author by ThomasJH268 (November 19, 2010 3:06 pm ET)
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            Well it's a start; and apparently it has Hannity nervous otherwise he wouldn't have had his "liberals don't want free speech" rant last night.
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          • Author by Laurence Glavin (November 19, 2010 4:12 pm ET)
               
            Beck, Rush and Hannity are on during the day (in winter, the second half of Hannity's show is after sunset), and AM signals get their MAXIMUM coverage if they're lower-case 'c' clear channels or nearly so, at night, when skywaves predominate. I live in northeast Massachusetts, and barely receive WTIC-AM 1080 in Hartford during the day, even though it runs 50,000 watts nondirectional during those hours, and it's about 100 miles straightaway.
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    • Author by walty (November 19, 2010 3:00 pm ET)
         
      Very, Very long time listener back to the WWDB days.
      Thank you WPHT for dropping these two idiots. You go Michael Smerconish, you're the best.
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