Ok we're back once more.
To get rolling again, I'm going to talk a little about the WikiLeaks controversy.
Yesterday Greenwald posted about his discussion with the Heritage Foundation's Conn Carroll, titling it “Fact-free accusations about WikiLeaks.” It was this comment by Carroll that raised his ire.
Julian Assanage -- you know, molesting charges aside -- is a criminal. He broke the law. He is, you know, a murderer of American and Afghani people. His carelessness has killed people. Even besides that, he broke U.S. law. …
There are two issues here. One, is WikiLeaks, and by extension its head Julian Assanage, guilty of “breaking the law?” And two, to what degree is WikiLeaks culpable for endangering innocent Afghanis? (Carroll’s silly and hyperbolic contention that Assanage is a murderer not withstanding. Further I am not overly concerned about American soldiers, they are there in war, representing a foreign invader, they know the risks).
First, let’s consider the ‘law-breaking charge. Greenwald replies:
It is, of course, illegal for those with an affirmative duty to safeguard secrets (such as government and military employees) to leak certain categories of classified information, but it is generally not illegal for non-governmental third parties -- such as media outlets or private citizens -- to publish that information… To simply assert that WikiLeaks or Assanage clearly broke the law by publishing classified information -- despite the fact that they are not government employees -- is to exhibit a monumental ignorance of the subject matter on which one is opining.
I agree. Clearly a media organization like WikiLeaks is not bound to withhold state secrets that they themselves did not acquire through illegal means. But more to the point. This is an American law. Neither the WikiLeaks organization nor Assanage are American in any respect. How could this law apply to them? As Greenwald states:
That authority-revering mindset is disturbing enough when it's applied to American citizens (such as those on the Right who called for the prosecution of The New York Times for revealing the illegal NSA program), but when it's extended to the entire world -- anyone who defies the Pentagon is a criminal -- it's warped beyond belief.
One argument against this position appears in the comment section:
The US has several extraterritorial laws where we try to force anybody who does business in the US to comply with, for example, our embargo against Cuba - most notoriously against an American hotel chain which provided rooms to the Cuban delegation at some conference in a South American city. Also, we charge foreign nationals with violations of our drug laws even though they have never been to the US. Why wouldn't these people think that we could charge Assanage with a crime under American law even though he's never been in the US.
To put it simply, why should a non-American organization WikiLeaks care about the U.S. law? The commentator does admit that the U.S. government, due to the reasons cited above, would probably have to “trump something up” in order to pursue charges, but really that is not the point. I believe in international law, and when those laws broken then I do feel that those responsible are guilty of “breaking the law.” But the mindset of some Americans to label WikiLeaks criminals based on their (false) claims that the organization violated American laws is nothing more than ethnocentrism. Imagine the reaction of these same Americans if the situation was reversed. Of course any American reaction would be extreme if the case were a situation where an American was arrested in another country because they violated international law. But can you fathom to what level it would be if, say, Canada decided to arrest an American in another country for a violation of its hate-crime legislation, even if the American had never been to Canada. Imagine (the justified) outrage.
But the capacity to see a situation like this from the opposite perspective simply does not exist for the vast majority of American political commentators.
This all said, I am not in complete agreement with Greenwald regarding Carroll’s other complaint. Now labeling Assanage is a murderer is just needlessly inflammatory and inaccurate. It’s hard to appreciate the larger issue with such schoolyard rhetoric. In defense of his position Greenwald notes the following:
Even the Pentagon admits that there is no evidence whatsoever to support Carroll's factual claims. From The Washington Post, August 11: "'We have yet to see any harm come to anyone in Afghanistan that we can directly tie to exposure in the WikiLeaks documents,'
Carroll responds in the comment section with a link to a Newsweek article. Greenwald cites this article as actual proof of his own position, and technically he is correct. As he notes, “the article explicitly states: ‘it is unknown whether any of the men were indeed named in the WikiLeaks documents.’”
But is whether direct evidence exists proving Afghanis were killed due to WikiLeaks releasing the documents really the point? Perhaps it is to both Greenwald and Carroll, but isn’t the larger issue whether the release of documents containing the names of anti-Taliban civilian Afghanis put those Afghanis in grave danger? Shouldn’t WikiLeaks be judged on those grounds? From the same Newsweek article:
A spokesman for the group quickly threatened to “punish” any Afghan listed as having “collaborated” with the U.S. and the Kabul authorities against the growing Taliban insurgency. In recent days, the Taliban has demonstrated how seriously those threats should be considered. Late last week, just four days after the documents were published, death threats began arriving at the homes of key tribal elders in southern Afghanistan. And over the weekend one tribal elder, Khalifa Abdullah, who the Taliban believed had been in close contact with the Americans, was taken from his home in Monar village, in Kandahar province’s embattled Arghandab district, and executed by insurgent gunmen.
Is there any doubt that the failure to redact the names of these Afghanis who collaborated with the Americans puts them at great risk? I think not. This is Greenwald’s misleading response:
There is not a shred of evidence that any act WikiLeaks has undertaken -- including the release of the last batch of Afghan war documents -- "has killed people." To say that Assanage is "a murderer of American and Afghani people" is so far removed from reality, exhibits such an irresponsible detachment from the truth, that it's hard to express in words. ..
Whether it is his intention, due to phrases like “so far removed from reality” and “irresponsible detachment from the truth” he is certainly implying that the WikiLeaks release of documents was of little risk to the Afghani people (granted he has previously said that WikiLeaks could have been more careful with the release of names but one certainly doesn’t get that impression from his incendiary tone here).
A reasonable suggestion comes in the comment section:
WikiLeaks could have substituted in ALL cases names with some other nomenclature representing the party being addressed. Ex, instead of saying Steve Smith, Wikileaks could have used the term "SOURCE 01" in every instance that the name, "Steve Smith" appeared and kept an offline table tracing all terms to actual names
And this is how it is dealt with by another commentator:
Apparently, wikileaks did screen some of the documents and apparently they asked for the assistance of the US government (we are talking about a massive amount of documents and WikiLeaks hasn't the staff to properly vet every single one of them) and were turned down. If it's not important to the US government, why should it be important to wikileaks?
Two points. First, if it is a question or life or death, and this clearly could be, then lack of staff or time is hardly an excuse to proceed. You make the time or get the people or do it bit by bit until it is ensured that innocents are protected. Secondly, the argument that the US government really isn’t concerned about the lives of Afghanis has no place in this argument. Most in government probably don’t. The number of dead innocents in Iraq and Afghanistan and the lack of punishment for those responsible strongly attest to that. But can that be used as argument in favor of the what Wikileaks did?
Is it reasonable to cite Saudi Arabia’s persecution of Christianity as a justification for not allowing the Muslim community centre to be built a few blocks from Ground Zero? Obviously no in both cases.
But, to be clear, what I’m saying is not an argument against what WikiLeaks does. I fully support its goals and purpose. It’s beyond necessary in a world where an imperialist self-righteous and unbelievably secretive government is conducting military activities throughout the globe. But WikiLeaks erred here, seriously, and should take it amongst themselves to punish the person responsible (even if it is Assanage) and ensure it doesn’t happen again.
Really the only coherent justification for releasing names of the Afghanis in the WikiLeaks documents is that if these Afghanis cooperated with Americans then it’s fine that the Taliban kills them. While I am very much against the Americans - and Canadian and other coalition forces being in Afghanistan, I sure don’t want to argue that.
Essentially this once again comes down to the prevailing tendency in virtually all political debate nowadays, that of 'tribalism.' Because we support WikiLeaks and recognize the vital need for such an organization then anything they do is fine… after all they are on our team. While it is generally the right nowadays who use this perspective in its most illogical and extreme form it is certainly very commonly utilized by those of all political stripes. For the most part we are incapable of seeing an issue for what it is, we have to support “our team.”
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