19 Dec
Posted by MacRanger as News
Don’t you love the internet. You can’t hide.
Now I’m sure we’ll hear from all the usual liberal voices calling for Rev. Al to appear in sackcloth and ashes repenting of his sin.
*crickets*……
h/t Gateway Pundit.
19 Dec
Posted by MacRanger as Barack Obama, News
Yesterday I hinted at the fact that the fix for passing the repeal of DADT was in since Defense Secretary Gates single-handedly ordered the report on it piecemealed to siepher out negative opinion. He was largely successful, except when it came to the Generals of the Army, Air Force, Marine Corps and upwards of 67 percent of active combat Marines who said that repealing the law would have a negative – repeat that – negative effect on operational readiness.
I’ve heard from several people with knowledge of how the survey was conducted that Gates personally ordered the report “sanitized” because, “This is important to the President”. From the Weekly Standard a few weeks ago:
“Early reports on the Pentagon’s survey of the troops on “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” were nothing but roses for repeal supporters, but the details of the survey complicate that narrative somewhat. While only 20% of troops who have never been deployed to a combat zone say that repeal of DADT would “very negatively” or “negatively” affect their “immediate unit’s effectiveness at completing its mission,” more than 44% of combat troops say repeal would have a negative impact on unit effectiveness:
An exception to the pattern was the response of Service members deployed to a combat zone now or in the past to the circumstance of being “in a field environment or out to sea.” Among all Service members in this group, 44.3% (and 59.4% of Marines—see Q71a in Appendix E) said performance would be “very negatively/negatively” affected in this situation. Of note, among all survey items related to the review’s major subject areas, this item had the highest percentage of Service members reporting negative perceptions about the impact of a repeal.
Update: The report also says that “67% of those in Marine combat arms units”–i.e. infantry, artillery, armor–”predict working alongside a gay man or lesbian will have a negative effect on their unit’s effectiveness in completing its mission ‘in a field environment or out at sea.’”
About 11% of all combat troops surveyed said repeal would “positively” or “very positively” affect performance, while 19% said repeal would have “no effect.” Another 26% of combat troops surveyed said repeal’s affect wold be “equally as positively as negatively.” These troops–who see both negative and positive effects of repeal–are lumped together with those who believe it will have “no effect” under the survey’s “neutral” category. “
As one who served two decades in the US Army I served with many men, women some of whom I knew were gay but it was a secret that no one spoke about, only suspected. Gays have been serving more than likely since the beginning of the armed services of the United States. So why the beef. Simply because what was known was known in secret.
Also what was known didn’t not constitute acceptance or even tolerance. Now that gays will be able to serve “openly”, what will actually happen will be widespread chaos and that’s what the majority of active combat service members stated would happen should DADT be repealed. What kind of chaos?
The devil is in the details of how this will be implemented once it’s signed by Obama. As the armed services attempt to implement programs, materials, and training basically telling straight troops that not only must they accept behavior in the most personal of quarters – barracks, showers, foxhole, they will have no recourse to address their rights.
That’s right – their rights. For the clueless that have never served in the military, specifically in the combat arms area, let’s look at a few scenarios that will play out. They may sound simplistic, even comical, but they are real.
In basic training, where all members of the services enter in, they are sequestered together in close quarters. They sleep side by side, and yes even shower together. I remember being in a shower with 20 other guys in basic training and actually feeling nothing of uncomfortableness. But then I wasn’t aware if in my midst there was anybody gay there with us. Again you may suspect, but you just didn’t know.
However I could tell you that if there had been and it been known, it wouldn’t have been pretty. PC aside, it’s just the fact of the situation. There would have been blood. True that was over thirty years ago and things have changed, but not by much. I can say that most soldiers I served with who thought another soldier was looking at their fanny would have clocked his ass.
Internals to the survey showed that much of the animosity hasn’t changed, and is unlikely to change even with forced training telling straight troops they MUST accept their gay counterparts. It’s NOT going to happen. Any troops reading this are welcome to comment, but I’m coming from 20 years of experience, it’s not going to happen.
Of course defenders will say “Tough! It’s the law now”. But no law is ever permanent. If the repeal leads to chaos DADT could well be made into law again in the name of national security. That’s doubtful, but what may also happen is that individuals discharged for failing to accept having homosexuals serve next to them could very well sue saying that their rights were trumped by the repeal.
One of the lies that the media and defenders put forward in getting the act repealed is by naming all the other countries which allow gays to serve openly. What they didn’t talk about is that in many of these countries there are numerous problems of discipline and for the most part it simply doesn’t work.
One of the areas not yet address apart from simple communing, is how the social strata will be implemented. For instance will homosexual marriage be accepted? Will gays be allowed the same base privileges of quarters, dependent military care? If so how will that impact the cost of running the armed forces? This was addressed in the study and obtained a negative rating, but was stripped from the final report as was anything that provided a negative light.
There will be much more coming on this in the weeks to come. But suffice for now that the American public, the media, and our elected officials were punked on the real effects of repealing DADT.
18 Dec
Posted by MacRanger as News
Senate about to vote on DADT, thanks to Scott Brown and other RINOS it’s about to pass the 60 vote threshhold. After that it’s the so-called Dream Act Giveaway which is a Trojan Horse designed to lead to Amnesty for millions of illegal aliens.
“Congress is close to ending the ban on gays serving openly in the U.S. military, with the Senate ready for a landmark vote that could deliver a major victory to the gay community, liberals and President Barack Obama.
Senators planned a procedural vote Saturday on a bill ending the Pentagon’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy as lawmakers held an unusual weekend session in their race to finish the year’s legislative business.
If at least 60 senators vote to advance the bill as expected, the repeal, which passed the House of Representatives earlier this week, could win final passage by late afternoon. Republicans opposed to changing the law could demand extended debate although early indications were that they might not bother.
With opposition from Republicans weakening, passage would mark a triumph for Obama, who made repeal of the 17-year-old law a campaign promise in 2008. It also would be a win for congressional Democrats who have struggled in the final days of the outgoing Congress’ session to overcome Republican objections, and for gay rights groups who said Saturday’s vote was their best shot at changing the law. Republicans, who are far less supportive of gay rights, take over the House and gain strength in the Senate when the new Congress is seated in January.
As I said before, we will place Tea Party challengers to every RINO who voted to have DADT repealed. Same is true for the DA. If you want a fucking war, you’ve got it.
Kudos to Senator McCain, who has learned the lesson that RINOism is dead.
“Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.), speaking on the Senate floor today, said that when repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell passes, which he acknowledged is likely, there will be “high fives across the liberal bastions of America,” where many have never served or known anyone who has served in the armed forces. The will be mistaken, he said. “This is not about the broader social issues that are being discussed in society,” McCain said — it’s about what’s best for the military, and repealing the current policy was the wrong decision. “They will do what is asked of them, but don’t think it won’t be at great cost,” he said.
McCain began his speech by slamming the “bizzaro world” that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) inhabited, and accused Democrats of trying to “jam through” the remaining items — START, the DREAM Act and repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell — on an agenda that was “absolutely repudiated” on November 2. “Everything we’re doing is completely ignoring that message,” McCain said. “Maybe it will require another election.”
It will, and there will be blood. Meanwhile, man the phones on these swing votes for The Dream Act:
Susan Collins 202-224-2523
Lisa Murkowski 202-224-6665
Sam Brownback 202-224-6521
Kay Bailey Hutchinson 202-224-5922
George LeMieux 202-224-3041
Judd Gregg 202-224-3324
Olympia Snowe 202-224-5344
George Voinovich 202-224-3353
Get calling.
UPDATE: Well thanks to a flawed study (more on that later), Senate RINOS have handed Obama a victory and US Military readiness a setback. 63-33. Thanks for nothing RINOS, begin to pack your bags. Usual fucking suspects.
Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), Olympia Snowe (Maine), Mark Kirik (Ill.), Scott Brown (Mass.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and retiring Sen. George Voinovich (Ohio).
In Sarah’s words, a target has been placed on you.
One disclaimer. I’m not against gays in the military. Gays have always been in the military, just not legally. But they have served and served well, fought, died and been awarded. I salute them. My problem is with the rush to judgement on repealing DADT. The study touted as showing support was flawed, indeed tampered with. Survey responses which showed opposition to the repeal were summarily dismissed (I have the proof). The fix was in from the beginning with Gates providing the pressure. I will be releasing the proof of this via insiders to the study to the media later this week. One of the facts purposely left out of media coverage is that a full 60 percent of active combat troops opposed the lifting of the ban including the commandant of the Marine Corps.
Meanwhile The Dream Act fails. 55-41. At least some good news. RINOS who voted “Yea”, Murkowski, Lugar and Bob Bennett. Michelle Malkin notes the pressure needs to be there to keep The Dream Act from coming back up again.
With RINO Senators all but guaranteeing the horrendous repealing of DADT and helping Obama get a victory over START, Tea Party groups will be gearing up for 2012 to remove as many RINOS from Washington as possible.
“The purge began but it’s by no means complete”, Stan Cooper, member of a South Florida Tea Party Group told me this afternoon. “RINOS are thumbing their noses and showing their ass over the lame duck session, giving up the bank, morality and our kids future along with the nation’s security”, he added.
We’re simply not going to tolerate this any longer. The Tea Party is still in it’s infancy but responsible by and large to the 62 seat shellacking in November. But between now and 2012 we’re only going to ramp up beginning by targeting those of the party who steadfastly refuse to uphold core conservative principles.
Here you go. It’s the first, but Fox’s poll – based on the flawless Opinion Dynamics polling people – have Barack Obama’s approval rating at 40%.
Lefties will cry bias compaining that other polls have him much higher in approval. But as Ed at Hot Air notes;
“This (Fox New/OP Dynamic poll) stands in stark contrast to the Washington Post/ABC poll released earlier this week. That showed Obama losing ground on Afghanistan, with a 45/46 rating, and tanking on the economy, 43/54, and the deficit, 38/55 — but maintaining a 49/47 approval rating. However, even after 4 days of publishing stories from the poll results, neither WaPo nor ABC has released any of the sample data from the survey. Given their predilection for oversampling Democrats, the lack of transparency should warn anyone about taking it seriously, especially since Marist found the same trend as Fox and almost the same numbers (42/50).”
I noted earlier that MSNBC touted a NBC/WSJ poll that heavily oversampled Democrats as well. The fact is that Obama’s numbers are in the crapper. So-called objective news organizations simply can’t get away with hiding that truth.
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