Before she stole the hearts of tea party activists, Delaware GOP Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell was best known for her regular and bizarre punditry on 22 different episodes of Politically Incorrect. The host of that show, Bill Maher, now has an HBO show called Real Time.
Last night, Real Time aired its first show of the current season. Maher began by mocking O’Donnell, calling her “an uemployed, anti-masturbation activist and a close friend of mine.” “I created her,” Maher told the audience, turning to the camera and stating, “You owe me Christine O’Donnell.” Maher said that he has great fondness for O’Donnell, adding, “She does not have a mean bone in her body, or any other bone in her body.”
Later in the show, Maher played a previously-unaired Oct. 29, 1999 clip of O’Donnell on Politically Incorrect, in which O’Donnell said she once “practiced witchcraft”:
O’DONNELL: I dabbled into witchcraft — I never joined a coven. But I did, I did. … I dabbled into witchcraft. I hung around people who were doing these things. I’m not making this stuff up. I know what they told me they do. [...]
One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar, and I didn’t know it. I mean, there’s little blood there and stuff like that. … We went to a movie and then had a midnight picnic on a satanic altar.
Watch it:
Maher joked that he’s going to show a fresh clip of O’Donnell every week on his show until O’Donnell agrees to appear again on his show. “I’m just saying, Christine, it’s like a hostage crisis,” he said, “every week you don’t show up, I’m going to throw another body out.”
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September 18th, 2010 at 1:36 am“One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic alter, and I didn’t know it. I mean, there’s little blood there and stuff like that. … We went to a movie and then had a midnight picnic on a satanic alter.”
uuuuuuuuh.
If she was doing stuff with Satanism I’m pretty sure that means she wasn’t into neo-paganism and was into Satanism.
Though in all fairness the two can be confused.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:13 amWhoa, man, if this doesn’t kill her chances, nothing will.
Wait ’til Sarah finds out she’s endorsed someone dabbling in MEDIUMS. She is a weird one, and that’s putting it NICELY!
September 18th, 2010 at 2:15 amP Funk -
Watch the video then tell us why you think this nut bag is senator material.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:18 amO’Donnell is one piece of work. She is the Loony Queen, and almost as disturbed and mentally confused as out resident troll.
No wonder he has a “thing” for her.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:19 amSo just which of her alter egos was this, or was that in an alternate universe. This is just an old heathen’s opinion, but maybe someday she’ll find out there’s a difference between Wicca and Satanism; hm, one of her first dates with a witch; how many first dates were there? And if she’s dating witches, does that make her a lesbian? After all, aren’t the male priests and shamen in Wicca called warlocks? ah well… enough levity.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:22 amThis to my knowledge is the first Senate nominee in history to willingly confess at any point in their life to having engaged in satanic activities.
Or witchcraft for that matter.
I think that might make her the most unqualified Senate nominee ever.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:23 am“One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic alter”
So much for her being a virgin.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:27 amNahhh. Rushbo the Satanic Clown has blessed her.
She is forgiven of all prior sins. AND she’s a virgin again!!
Man, you can’t make this stuff up. Count Delaware in the (D) column for 2010.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:33 am“I dabbled into witchcraft. …I did. I did. I dabbled into witchcraft.”
Sounds to me like this is code for touching one’s self.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:35 amcd @ 10, that would certainly constitute a change, thereby giving credence to the transcriptionists use of the word alter, instead of altar.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:35 amCan you imagine what Adams, Jefferson, Hamilton, Madison, and Jay would say about the state of senatorial debate in 2010? My guess is they’d run back to King George III!
September 18th, 2010 at 2:36 amI’ve got to wonder if she’s secretly into satanism.
Well really what kind of a moron just dabbles in the black arts?
September 18th, 2010 at 2:37 amcd (temp spokesman for satan) says:
I think “Satanism” is how fruitcakes refers to sex and masturbation. Now that she’s celebate for the rest of her life, her purity is intact, at least in her own mind.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:39 amAHAHAHAHAHA!
Alaska is going to be a blue state!
a blue state!
a blue state!
Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska is expected to announce Friday she will run as a write-in candidate in the November election, in a bid to keep her seat, sources told CNN.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:40 amDelaware: Small Wonder?
September 18th, 2010 at 2:42 amWhy is it that Conservatives use putdowns like “savages”, “backward”, “uncivilized” when talking about Hispanics, Muslims, Haitians, etc., then rush to the polls to vote for people straight out of the Dark Ages like O’Donnell?
Aah… the irony of it all…
September 18th, 2010 at 2:52 amDid Harry Potter make Christine do this?
September 18th, 2010 at 3:18 amI hope christine o’donell meats Mr Right Dildo soon ………
September 18th, 2010 at 3:29 amHalf of these F~ing teaBaggers are untreated head cases
September 18th, 2010 at 3:35 amand the other half are F~ing STUPID !
This woman is phucking unreal. She tells this stuff like she is proud of it, like she is hanging out with peers at a high school party.
You all have great comments, hard to top them, so I will just say, really?? This woman dated a witch, was picnicking at a Satanic alter?? And Christians are willing to vote for this fruitcake? My God, the devil really has taken over the republican party.
September 18th, 2010 at 3:57 amI’m sure she “dabbled in witchcraft” just like that one Liberty University Dean was a secret muss-lem terr’st.
Funny how these neo-christian sociopaths can’t seem to get their “false” religions right, and always mix-and-match different religions (almost always with Biblical Satanism), to try and lend an air of authenticity to their claims of being born again christians.
It just goes to show the inauthentic, dubios, pragmatic, dishonest means that these types will go to just to try to get another convert for their holy figure of choice.
Fortunately, they are (for the most part) just preaching to their respective choir, and really just polarizing their base and wasting their breath on the gullibil ignorant.
~Dylan (Keepin the faith)
September 18th, 2010 at 4:02 amI mean really…what will we hear coming so proudly out of her mouth next?
O’Donnell: Yes I still am a virgin, but I have had anal sex a couple dozen times with a man whom, just to remain pure, ha, ha, really I have!
The way she laughs in these videos, like everybody is with her and on her side, not getting that they are laughing at her naivety and stupidity.
A big thank you goes out to Sarah Palin and the Delaware teabaggers.
Tip for St. Sarah: You may want your witch doctor pal to start vetting these candidates before you endorse them.
September 18th, 2010 at 4:03 amRemember when we were being told that the tea party movement wasn’t just a republican movement? I guess the cat is out of the bag huh?
September 18th, 2010 at 4:06 amThese teabaggers need a group enema … this bunch is so backed up !
September 18th, 2010 at 4:07 amIf the tea bag express need to find more candidates for 2012 they need to look no further than the nearest loony bin.
September 18th, 2010 at 4:09 amBamboo Harvester and Insidious Prophet (In regards to post 27)
I remember when they initially came out claiming to be a Grass Roots, non-partisan organization…
Until it was fully exposed that they were in no way, shape or form grass roots, having financial and moral ( a word i am loathe to use when speaking of the tea party) backing from huge financial institutions, which were either republican, christian, or in dirrect opposition to Pres. Obamas policies (see health care companies).
They also greatly proved themselves to be liars when they claimed to be non-partisan, being as they got their news almost exclusively from Fox News, backed only conservative/repub candidates, and espoused complete (bullcrap) christian rhertoric (Anti-homosexual marriage, anti-choice, and now against “smackin the spud”[my new favorite euphemism]).
This, coupled with dishonest advertisement, dishonest politics, dishonest hsitores and dishonest funding…
Hypocracy, thy name is Conservative.
~Dylan (Have hypocracy, will travel)
September 18th, 2010 at 4:13 amOh, by the way, my posts in #25 link to an alternet.org (A progressive/liberal news site with a huge range of articles) and a wikipedia article (in respective order)
~Dylan (Look before you click, only you can prevent Rickroll)
September 18th, 2010 at 4:17 amO’Donnell must have heard the rumor that Aleister Crowley is Dubyah’s grandfather! LOL!
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/04/george-w-bush-barbara-bush-and.html
September 18th, 2010 at 4:30 amcd, you speak from UTTEER IGNORANCE in Post #4. The “confusion” between Old-style Pagan beliefs and Satanism was created by the Inquisition, and it is continued by religious bigots and haters.
Neo-Paganism DOES NOT BELIEVE in ANY sort of “principle of pure evil.” We believe in various Goddesses and Gods of NATURE. Much of our practice focuses in fact on HEALING, whether by energy techniques similar to Reiki, or by herbalism.
Satanists, OTOH, are mostly motivated by selfish “Get what I want by any means necessary” attitudes.
September 18th, 2010 at 4:52 amRE: VP @ 8:
Male Witches are called Witches. “Warlock” is an old Scottish term meaning “truce-breaker” or Oathbreaker.”
September 18th, 2010 at 4:55 amIn regards to T.H.E.Cat,
In all honesty, I am under the impression that when the ignorant fundies speak of “satanism”, they are refering to biblical Satanism, and not LaVayan Satanism, something that I am relative sure they couldn’t tell the difference, mostly due to a lack of caring w hat they point the finger at, and more towards the fact that they get to point their collective fingers at something
~Dylan (Hail Satin!)(Seriously, satin boxers=win).
September 18th, 2010 at 5:20 amNothing surprising here. The Right in America are exceedingly superstitious.
Breathes there a right-winger who hasn’t tried to cast a hex on liberals, at least one or two times? They think we’re conniving to destroy Xmas, after all. I’m sure every Republican in America prays every day for bad things to happen to Democrats. But their God is weak.
The Corporate Way
September 18th, 2010 at 6:19 am“Christine O’Donnell In Oct. 1999: ‘I Dabbled Into Witchcraft’”
She’s a witch! BURN HER!!!
September 18th, 2010 at 7:17 amIt makes me break down in tears to find out Gidget is a witch…
I guess I’ll have to call her Widget the Fidget from now on.
September 18th, 2010 at 7:33 am“Christine O’Donnell In Oct. 1999: ‘I Dabbled Into Witchcraft’”
The only question that I have: does she weigh more, or less, than a duck?
September 18th, 2010 at 7:36 amRighties love their bimbos
They’ll give her a pass on this
Just like they pretended George Bush was a cowboy
Just like they pretended Sarah Palin had a clue
Just like they pretend they’re gonna “take back ‘their’ country”
September 18th, 2010 at 8:00 amCan we now understand the Palin endorsement? It makes Palin look mainstream.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:11 amSHE TURNED ME INTO A NEWT!
~Dylan (I got better…)
September 18th, 2010 at 8:11 amreligion is silly
satanism is a religion
therefore
satanism is silly
I long for the time when mankind has outgrown it’s childish superstitions and religion is ridiculed to the fringes.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:12 amI think she went to see The Blair Witch Project.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:13 amBurning Questions: Does Christine get to keep and spend the influx of money that just poured into the campaign chest? Wasn’t Sarah Palin involved with a church that employed a witch doctor at some of their “ceremonies”?
September 18th, 2010 at 8:15 amNot to sound like a Hipster d-bag, but I was an atheist before being an atheist was cool.
Seriously though, we are talking about a people who base their lives on (selectively cherry-picked) ancient jewish fables, many of which are either scientifically inaccurate (refering to bats as birds for example) or contradict each
other excessively.
To think, people can hardly get elected into office if they don’t profusely espouse a belief in biblical religion…
~Dylan (Hipster D-bag)
September 18th, 2010 at 8:16 amAnother hypocrite. I bet she also masturbates.
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Christians absolutely hate to have to admit that satan worshippers are part of Christianity, not part of any pagan faith.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:19 amI’m afraid O’Donnell will need to ratchet up the crazy even more to get in the pecking order for Teabagger face time. As these unprincipled clowns start clawing at each other in the coming months into 2012, the dirty laundry and closeted skeletons will be too numerous to document. If nothing else, all this Teabbager crazy will make for an interesting 2012 GOP primary. I wonder if Gingrich has a clause in his appearance contract that says people can’t ask him about his marriage foibles?
September 18th, 2010 at 8:20 amDylan,
I was raised as a Methodist. I even played in the youth group band.
At about age 13 I started asking questions that they couldn’t answer.
By 15 I was done. The whole thing falls apart if you just examine it close enough.
That was almost 30 years ago.
I live in the South. Being an atheist has NEVER been cool here.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:21 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Bill Maher’s Tape collection is a bucket of cold water for the Dark Force of Palin/O’Donnel Fundamentalism.
“I’m Melting…”
September 18th, 2010 at 8:24 amNo one gives a crap if you are an atheist sport.
Unless, of course, you are running for Public Office.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:28 amOduhnell will soon be joinning Scarah Paymelin and the Rushdoonys for a theocratic America.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:30 amThing is none of them are actual christians. CINOs.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:30 amChristine O’Donnell In Oct. 1999: ‘I Dabbled Into Witchcraft’
– - A Teabagger purity litmus test. Will the Christianist base support a candidate whose sister has studied Wicca and pagan spiritualities and supports marriage equality for gays and lesbians?
September 18th, 2010 at 8:30 amFortunately, I live in the city of Atlanta, and not out in the rural South, which is still stuck in 1963. (Atlanta is like an island of intelligence surrounded by a sea of stupidity)
But, even in an international metropolis like Atlanta, the bigotry from holy rollers is present. It’s just not as prevalent.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:31 amYou are wrong Lidiot. Christians treat athiests like second class citizens every day, everywhere in America, not just the south.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:32 amBob1567s God is a urinal cake.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:32 amChristine O’Donnell In Oct. 1999: ‘I Dabbled Into Witchcraft’
– - Ya think Obama would have been elected to anything, much less president, if he had made the same announcement at any point in his life? Nevermind, that was very rhetorical.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:33 amPerhaps that’s why Nancy Pelosi and Obama regularly remind democrats that they are good Christians.
And your evidence to the contrary IS……????
September 18th, 2010 at 8:34 amThere is a reason the Republican Party attracts so many ignorant hillbillies.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:35 amYou speak for everyone?
Who is this “we” you presume to speak for and who gave you the authority to speak for them?
September 18th, 2010 at 8:38 amThe troll tries to cover the childishness of its posts by calling us ’sparky’, or ’sport’, as if its some wise old sage instead of a lonely, unemployable, early twenties moron that has no life outside of entertaining liberals on a blog while simultaneously demonstrating the lack of intelligence required to buy into the line of BS being spewed by the GOP.
poor little guy
September 18th, 2010 at 8:38 amNo….Evidence that they are NOT good Christians.
and Yes.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:38 amI do hope Bob1567 doesnt think I was posting to it.
I. Was. Not.
I just wish It would go find a Truck Stop urinal stall with a holy hole.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:39 amWhen I was on tour with the big hair bands back in the late 80s, we ran into a lot of the ignorant hicks like our little troll guy here.
They all made jokes about our hair and our leather and then cried when their girlfriends got on the bus with us.
poor little guys
September 18th, 2010 at 8:40 amLiberalidiots says:
Levi the Oracle says:
You are wrong Lidiot. Christians treat athiests like second class citizens every day, everywhere in America, not just the south.
No one cares sport.
We don’t care.
You don’t care about atheism, but you suddenly care if Obama or Pelosi aren’t openly practicing or defending Christianity.
Sounds about right.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:40 amRepublicans cannot tell the difference between right and wrong.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:40 amThis O’Duhnell person is going to be a goldmine for lobbyists [IE deficit creation]
“Just Invoice It!” -=Cheestain O’Duhnell=-
September 18th, 2010 at 8:43 amIgnorant hillbilly trolls can’t tell the difference between right and left.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:44 amLOL
Ignorant hillbilly Troll thinks I’m white.
Just like an ignorant hick to have to inject race into everything.
No wonder its scared little pansy ass has to live way out in the woods. It’s scared of pigment.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:46 amP: Even an ignorant hillbilly can tell the difference between right and wrong.
– - Yeah? Then what’s David Vitter’s excuse?
September 18th, 2010 at 8:48 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
That silly bible that the ignorant hillbillies pretend to refer to as the judge of what is right and wrong contradicts itself too many times to be trusted as any sort of authority on anything.
Which is why they have to be very selective about which parts of it they use to excuse their political leanings.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:51 amOkay, I know I am a little late on this, but I will asnwer first to Tommy, then to Idiot.
I grew up as a Southern Baptist in Texas. I started to question around the age of 18 ( I was a late bloomer, I must admit), after joining a youth group, and had many questions, especially those about homosexuality (I am straight, but had many a bisexual and homosexual friend). I didn’t like the answers I got, and started going to wards deism
This part, Idiot, is also for you.
I joined the Army at 18, and kinda fell back into religion, almost as a coping mechanism for basic training and AIT. About the time I went on my first of three deployments with 10th Special Forces Group (as part of the support team, I am not nor have ever claimed to be a Green Beret, I was, however, attatched to the unit, and did and got a lot of training from Special Forces guys) I again started severely questioning religion, faith, and christianity. I driftd again to deism, then to agnosticism, and finally atheism.
I delt with hostility, persecution and being talked down to by my peers in the Army, everything from trying to convert me, to telling me I was a bad person, and that I was going to hell, and only fooling myself (as well as many of the other cliche christian anti-free thought hate speach).
I got out of the Army last year, after completing three tours of duty with Iraq, and remain a stout humanist, atheist, and liberal.
They say there are no Atheists in fox holes, but i am one of the many living testaments against that. Hell, I jumped out of “perfectly good” planes(See Air force planes piloted by Army pilots). While I did cuss plenty once I was about 50 feet from the ground and realized how fast it was coming up at me, I never prayed or called out to any diety.
Atheists are everywhere. We fight enemies of America, along side christians, muslims, hindu, buhddist, taoist, jewish, pegan, and wiccans, and never give a second thought to what their religion is.
I can say that many of the christians i have encountered and served with can’t say the same.
~Dylan (In all seriousness, little buddy)
September 18th, 2010 at 8:51 amP: P: Even an ignorant hillbilly can tell the difference between right and wrong.
Hard to say.
What was Senator Byrds excuse?
– - Ya see, proved yourself wrong there, didn’t ya? Next…
September 18th, 2010 at 8:54 amOk, I’m off to shred some mountain roads on my motorcycle.
Too nice a day to stay inside.
Peace.
PS, trollboy, if you’d like to get educated in person, I’ll be playing a gig at the Old Tucker Fountain (supporting some friends) tomorrow from noon til 3. (Don’t worry, pansy, it’s still outside I-285). Perhaps your mom will let you borrow her Gremlin.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:55 amLiberalidiots says:
Actually, hillbillies are usually practicing Christians, like Obama and actually have a code for right and wrong, referred to as the ten commandments.
“Usually” is the operative word here.
Just because there is a system in place for “right and wrong”, that doesn’t automatically give people an out. There are plenty of systems in place for the likes of good living and ethics, but that doesn’t mean people follow it by the letter.
Even the holiest of men and women tend to break a commandment. Find me a perfect human being that can follow every commandment to the letter, and I would call you a liar.
We are not perfect beings.
September 18th, 2010 at 8:56 amthe ten commandments.
Liberal atheists find the code offensive and typically demand their removal from public places.
Sad.
You shall have no other gods before Me.’
So how is an American Hindu supposed to feel, when he goes to court and finds this commandment on the courthouse wall???
September 18th, 2010 at 8:59 amIdiot, I am callin straight bullshit on that, and I know this from personal experience.
Secondly, I defy your attempts at defaming me OR my military career. You want to talk Military, I can back up everything I say, I doubt the same for you.
Thirdly, even beyond my personal experience, I can pull up a myriad of articles supporting my claim, of atheists being mistreated, verbally abused, and even having officers try to give them article 15s for holding and attending an atheist group in Iraq.
Want to try me, goober?
I got an hour before I get off work. Try me.
~Dylan (Has Right, Might, and Reason on his side)
September 18th, 2010 at 9:03 amLiberalidiots says:
Yet…. only a liberal is offended to see the “code” in a public place.
It only takes one liberal to not be offended to prove you wrong.
I don’t mind seeing the Ten Commandments in a public place. Frankly, in a public setting, the meaning behind them is lost, as they become just another monument over time. It’s when people start preaching to me that I must follow it or be faced with an eternal damnation that I start to be offended.
Not all liberals are offended by it. Some are just indifferent to it.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:04 amP Funk says:
The irony in this statement is simply astonishing…
September 18th, 2010 at 9:10 amI see Red is here this morning, wearing his silly little skipper hat.
The cranky old guy and the rehab flunky.
Once again the troll sitcom just writes itself.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:12 am“I never joined a coven.” Well she now is a key member of the Palin, Bachmann, Angle Coven. The question for Halloween is which witch will be more bewitching?
September 18th, 2010 at 9:13 amI got out after 6 years, 1 or so spent in Tradoc, 5 or so spent with 10th Special Forces Group, 3rd Bat HSC SigDet. I got 95% PT (situps, I hate situps).
As for Athiests being mistreated in the military, well, here ya go, sparky.
Ya like apples?
~Dylan(Applesauce)
September 18th, 2010 at 9:14 amLet’s see how this gibberish reads w/ a few changes…
Interesting…
September 18th, 2010 at 9:15 amSarah Palin having taken part in a weird anti-witchcraft Pentecostal ceremony makes her a balance with O’Donnell.
How about a Palin/ODonnell ticket in 2012. Two self-centered women without a clue about history. One who quits every job she starts, and the other who never had a job.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:16 amYes, you didn’t say “all”, LI, but by suggesting that “only a liberal” would take offense, you are basically lumping us all into the same category, as if a random liberal, no matter who it was, would be the only one taking offense at having the Ten Commandments on display.
And do try to pull back on the insults when addressed by people who have not insulted you. It makes you appear immature.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:17 amWow, that is appropriate in any way, shape or form, P Funk.
Funny, I mean, I find that pushing ANY religious doctorine on our legal system, what with the seperation of church and state and all…but I said nothing about that, like, at all, I don’t think.
I actually said that Atheists are often persecuted(sp?) in the military, and gave evidence of my arguement.
However, thanks for cussing at me, and being a sexist, vulgar, incoherant(sp?) moron, giving me every right and reason to report you for behaving as such.
If i make spelling errors, I am at the end of a long night shift, and not entirely awake at this point.
~Dylan (Really, was it even necessary?)
September 18th, 2010 at 9:21 amI know a word.
Sparky.
Not a bright spark. More like a short.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:23 amPeople I know who belong to fundamentalist churches are all Republican, are all extremely conservative, and all forbade their children to read “Harry Potter.”
September 18th, 2010 at 9:23 amFundamentalism is extreme in what it believes, what it thinks its powers are — and it works for them, because their members don’t question it.
They believe in a spirit in the sky who fights an eternal battle with a spirit from the “netherworld.” Equal powers in perpetual battle.
Fine, if you believe in action/adventure fairy tales, but running our secular government would be anathema to them.
Who always advocates our so-called our christian values, our ((in their own minds) christian founders, our christian morals, etc.
I shudder to think of the huge step backward they would take the nation. They could appoint Huckabee as Sec. of State and complete their trinity.
Uh, yeah it is, sparky. YOu have to achieve a 60% (which is measured differently depending on your age group) on every event in most conventional units, and usually 80% in special operations units…of course, you would know that if you hadn’t just googled it real quick. Guess hypocracy comes back to bite you in the ass, though.
Way to prove yourself to be a liar.
~Dylan (Seriously. Applesauce.)
September 18th, 2010 at 9:24 am(situps, I hate situps) -=Skippy=-
Im sure it has something to do with a spinal column or lack thereof.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:25 amDabbled is right. She apparently didn’t stick around long enough to learn that witches don’t have satanic altars.
If she had a “date” on a satanic altar, she was dating a Satanist, not a witch. Of course, now she can always say ‘the devil made me do it!’
September 18th, 2010 at 9:25 am(situps, I hate situps)
BUG~!!
September 18th, 2010 at 9:27 amOf course, now she can always say ‘the devil made me do it!’ -=BnF=-
Weird idnit that supposed monotheists have created an entity as equally omnipotent as God?
September 18th, 2010 at 9:28 amDylan, a couple of things you need to know about these two particular goofballs.
Red, the guy who speaks in bold, has been proven in many threads to just ‘make sh*t up.’
P Funk or Mr Pee, is a rehab flunky who wasted away mommy’s money on a failed attempt at a Philosophy degree. He now spends his days irritating people on the magic tubes.
I wouldn’t take either one of them too seriously.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:29 amP Funk- Your statement has no basis, ergo, you are making baseless claims, on top of meaningless insults and personal attacks.
Xisthrus- Actually, When ya jump out of airplanes doing static line jumps with the military parachutes (We were using SF-10As’) (and me and a fellow soldier did the math on this)we hit the ground at about 20-25 miles an hour. That being said, some people suck at running (I ran a 12:45 2 mile) some people have trouble with pushups (I could do about 100 or so in 2 minutes), I just had issues with my core strength, no matter what I did, had trouble with situps.
Of course, I understand you are making a strained personal attack because you have nothing else to attack, but I figured i would make some polite conversation instead.
~Dylan (Come on people now, smile on your brother)
September 18th, 2010 at 9:29 amLisa Murkowski Write-In Bid Decision: Alaska Senator Announces Run [UPDATE]
September 18th, 2010 at 9:30 amScott McAdams(D), It’s All About Alaska
That’s exactly what Jesus said. Feel the Christianista love. Feels just like jihadist love.
Why do Christianistas spend all day hating everybody and everything? Are they training to be terrorist?
September 18th, 2010 at 9:31 amAlpuz- Yeah, i have noticed, but I am killin time till my shift ends. 10 hour shifts suck, but that three day weekend is pretty sweet.
Xisthrus- If that is the case, making personal attacks is a tactic used by the trolls, and really, I think it would be better for us all if we simply didn’t lower ourselves to their level. If not, my previous statement stands as a testament (lolirony?) and hope of my fellow progressives and liberal commenters to rise above.
~Dylan (Everybody get together, try to love one another right now)
September 18th, 2010 at 9:32 amtoo funny! faiz stayed up after ‘real time’ to post this…
somebody’s got a crush!
i keed.
she needs payed attention to, but mostly the psychosis behind the voters…
i still say rove’s show was all a ruse, a rovian play…
dems beware.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:33 amKnow what else is weird is that people like O’Duhnell here like to sockpuppet God. The call it ‘true believing’
And so the tubesock simpletons here do the same thing with differing monikers. Guess that is ‘true socking’
But that when it comes to something like AGW they claim there isnt enough scientific proof.
Bizarro.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:34 amPaymelin and Oduhnell, IMO, arent true christians as they follow old testament mosaical law. They refer to leviticus who wasnt Jesus at all to rationalize hate for adulterers, gays and sinners in general. The solution is simple. Kill them.
I never saw where Jesus ever said Kill anyone.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:36 amI consider the government of the U.S. as interdicted by the Constitution from intermeddling with religious institutions, their doctrines, discipline, or exercises . . . civil powers alone have been given to the President of the U.S. and no authority to direct the religious exercises of his constituents.
THOMAS JEFFERSON
Zen!
September 18th, 2010 at 9:39 amFunny Thing, lil’ buddy, I can back up my claims, you made a very…very obvious mistake and then tried to support it by stating a gain (as if repitition makes right).
But regardless, I, as I stated previously, can back up my claim. You, however, seem to have nothing but ad hominim personal attacks on everyone.
If you are going to be a troll, atleast be useful, or have some backing support to your claims/views.
You are no longer entertaining, and no longer worth wasting time replying to anymore.
~Dylan (Ooh, soemthing shiny!)
September 18th, 2010 at 9:39 amA blob-like creature [they HATE sit-ups absolutely HATE them!] that lived in the ocean approximately 425 million years ago was revealed in research published today.
The scientists developed a detailed 3D model of the only known fossilized specimen in the world of a creature called Drakozoon. The specimen was found by one of the team approximately 6 years ago in the Herefordshire Lagerstätte, one of England’s richest deposits of soft-bodied fossils that dwelled in pools of their own bodily fluids.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:41 amSoft bodied blobs swilling in urine..and TORYs to boot.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:42 amWell, a thread about witchcraft really brings out the weirdest comments from trolls.
Incoherent. Contradictory. Baseless in fact.
I am convinced that our trolls are all angry, white, fundamentalist, racist, ultra-conservative, belligerent,
September 18th, 2010 at 9:42 amantagonistic, frustrated, bigoted christianists who can’t accept that the last guy nearly collapsed this nation with lies, ignorance, arrogance and greed, and the guy trying to fix it all is black and a Democrat. Two characteristics in one person that they simply cannot abide.
It is really kinda rediculous. I tried doing a metric butt-load of crunches and sit-ups, but could never get above a 95%. I mean, that is nothign to scoff at, but still, it is like i hit a plateu, and couldn’t get any higher.
~Dylan( I am not a fossile! I am a human bean!)
September 18th, 2010 at 9:44 amYour a blob.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:45 amBeanblobman!
I am headed home, you guys have a great day.
~Dylan (pancakes)
September 18th, 2010 at 9:46 amBut…the Bible (BuyBull) is available in English. How did that happen?
Were the 10 commandments in Hebrew or English? If you love Jesus shouldn’t you be Jewish? Jesus and The Mother Mary were Jewish you know.
Wow… you are dumber than a roll of piss soaked carpet.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:46 amOh the irony of it all! http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/2010/09/18/howie-carr-and-his-christian-listeners-believe-its-not-right-for-their-children-to-volunteer-to-pray-to-anothers-g-d/
September 18th, 2010 at 9:50 amShe’s the perfect Republican woman candidate.
She’s an empty-head, empty vessel which will try anything, do anything, be anything that she is told by others…for the publicity and celebrity it brings her as a self-loathing victim who has no respect for herself as a woman or as a person.
The more of these conservative women we see coming out-of-the-closet, the more we know of the damage that has been done to an entire generation of Religious Right female children. They don’t feel they are smart enough or good enough to have a meaningful professional life. That’s for men.
Even when they stumble upon on a chance to show their potential worth, they quit midway like Palin did afraid they will fail. Never do they have the thought that they could succeed. That was drummed out of their conscience at an early age by male elders.
Worst yet, they feel trapped by their repressed family lives. So they go into politics hoping it gives them the credibility they cannot find within their own social and religious communities. They are unfulfilled sexually and intellectually. They are unsure that they deserve to be happy.
So they strive to become a caricature of what Hillary Clinton really is.
Palin, in a twist of fate, once publicly lamented that she wished she could attract such women as supporters….knowing she lacked the resources to pull it off. Now she doesn’t even try.
I can see why Bill Maher gave O’Donnell exposure. At first he thought she was a joke. Then he realized that she was just as much a victim of conservative oppression as he and other gays are.
She may not have a mean bone in her bone or a coherent thought in her head, but the people who are manipulating her do. Don’t ever underestimate the cunning of the the Aryan Nation types. She will parrot any copy point she is given with flair and make them appear harmless to the unsuspecting.
She maybe damaged goods as a human being, but she is the sort of empty vessel that can create untold damage to whatever she touches. She and the Angles, Bachmanns, and Palins are doing it to the Republican Party now. Even Rove is worried he may not be able to control and stop the lunatic fringe on their Far Right.
This was supposed to be the year of the strong professional woman in the Republican Party like Meg Whitman, Carly Fiorina, and that sex procurer/wrestler empress whom I can’t remember the name of because who wants to remember her.
But instead it’s the year of the dingbat and professional women victims. They so wish they were actually Grizzly Moms.
But in a Great Recession who cares about their problems. Working people have enough of their own because the Republicans don’t really want to fix the destructive economic mechanisms they put in place.
The GOP continues to steadily, slowly beat down the American middle class and our capitalist society…and will use any Religious Right or KKK elements they find to do it. The bigger the victims they can put center stage the better.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:53 amWhy do you HATE Jesus?
September 18th, 2010 at 9:54 amO’DingBat’s revelation that she “dabbled in Witchcraft” then went on a date with a Satanist further underscores the shady 80’s IQ this woman has.
Let me also be clear that just because she is dangerously ignorant and mean spirited does not mean she isn’t an opportunist of the highest order.
It goes without saying that Satanists believe in Christianity. Not Paganism and Witchcraft.
Christians have been getting that wrong since the 1100’s and have the blood on their hands of millions for their efforts.
Sadly, what this does do for O’DingBat is make her a so- called “EXPERT” on Witchcraft in the eyes of the Christian GOP Goober sheep that follow and enable her in droves. Pagans will very likely be the next GOP Goober enemy by Monday morning.
Why? Firstly because of Supreme Enabler Rupert Murdoch and his Fox noise flying moneys who adore O’DingBat.
Second because the Christian GOP Goober Sheep that make up about a 3rd our our electorate in this country, will always ALWAYS favor a Theocrat and their version of GOD over a reasoned, tolerant, fact-based secular society.
I’ll say it again. Facts don’t matter to these Christian GOP/Tea Bag Goober Sheep. They can’t be shamed. They refuse to learn. They feel no sense of or comprehend the depths of the endless hypocrisy they live everyday.
With them It’s the Christian Stupid! Welcome to today’s GOP.
How long do you think it will be before O’DingBat reveals a Lesbian love affair on tape for the next distraction? Fox and Sheep will make her an “expert” on that too.
Clock is running
September 18th, 2010 at 9:59 amRepublicans with ants in their pants…
They’re at it again…
September 18th, 2010 at 10:02 amPee Funk ran away to create a bunch of sock puppet accounts so he could wage a VD war on this thread.
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Briseadh na Faire says:
Dabbled is right. She apparently didn’t stick around long enough to learn that witches don’t have satanic altars.
If she had a “date” on a satanic altar, she was dating a Satanist, not a witch. Of course, now she can always say ‘the devil made me do it!’
Only a lib would make that distinction.
Typical.
In other words, libs know something you don’t know.
You must be one of those “real men of genius” they sing about on commercials:
Mister Agnostic non-church goer guy.
That’s right. You’re bold enough to admit there might be a God, but you’re not going to worship him.
You’d rather spend your Sunday mornings on the couch, watching football and drinking beer.
You lump all religions together because you know better than anybody that all you need to know about God can be found at the bottem of a beer bottle.
So here’s to you, Mister Agnostic non-church goer guy, real man of genius.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:06 am
O’Donnell’s explanation of the need for chastity until marriage: ‘we’re not a slave to our sexuality.’ “We’re not a slave to our sexuality.
Too bad two billion years of evolution says otherwise. How can you possibly expect to supress the strongest drive known in the Animal Kingdom?
Our sexuality is a gift for us to be used in the context of marriage, and we need to support young people in that, and teach them the facts that 12,000 teenagers a day contract sexually transmitted diseases.
And thanks to kooks like you, under the Teabagger Administration of the future, that number will more than double.
And the only way to protect yourself from this is to save sex for marriage, and then to remain in a monogamous, committed marriage.” [CNN, 7/10/97]
Please be sure to share this information with David Vitter, John Ensign, Newt Gingrich, and Mark Sanford.
O’Donnell claimed abstinence-only education has been an ‘incredible success.’ “Overwhelmingly, programs that teach abstinence only have an incredible success rate because you’re not giving them a confused message.” [Hannity & Colmes, 6/6/00]
Just ask Bristol Palin! Also see retort #1 above.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:06 amI like this comment from sandyh:
September 18th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Sandyh has been VDTd, but what she said and was voted down by Trolls with multiple accounts needs to be repeated:
September 18th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Sandy, I would argue that Palin jumped off the political train when her advisors told her that (a) she could make a pisspot full of cash by doing so, and (b) if she didn’t she risked impeachment by the people of Alaska.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:14 amBy the way,
Long before O’DingBat reveals a Lesbian love affair for Fox & Sheep to spin in their up is down and down is up world,
it is very possible that, just like other sexually repressed self-loathing Christian GOP Goober Sheep, she she was a prostitute or went to one.
It fits the profile of today’s GOP leaders. Especially in the Senate.
Good news for her is that all she has to do is ask any number of GOP heavyweights what to do.
Sen. Diaper Dave Vitter. Sen. Larry “Airport”[ Craig. Mark “Little Boys” Foley. Sen. “I screwed My Best Friends Wife” Ensign. Newt Gingrich.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:15 amYup. She’s in good hands.
FearsLiberals:
While you’re at it, remind your god Limpdick that it’s a sin to take someone else’s Viagra to a country known for its kiddie slave trade. Also let him know that although O’Dimwit is not married, he hasn’t got a chance with her.
Conservatards: Do as we say, not as we do.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:18 amCould the hogs on the right be any more Oedipal?
Jesus Christ on a cracker, fellas!! You’re not gonna get into Mommy’s stretch-hose!!
Let her go!! If she comes back…..well, that’ll be weird, but at least it will her call.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:19 amPee Funk,
You never answered my question. Too busy knitting sock puppets?
Why do you HATE Jesus?
September 18th, 2010 at 10:20 amVoting down my comment only proves its accuracy.
Does Daddy know?
September 18th, 2010 at 10:21 amLiberalidiots says:
Right Wing Dystopia says:
Voting down my comment only proves its accuracy.
Does Daddy know?
1 VD = 1 liberal who pissed herself
So, you’re a liberal chick fronting as a right wing feller what wants to have at it with Mommy?
Why would you admit that?
September 18th, 2010 at 10:24 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Now THIS is funny…
Also indicative of the state of mind Carl Paladino lives in…
You have to wonder…
Does this mean that if Carl decides his opponent is full shite, he’ll be sending out fliers that…
Of course, if Carl opts to use simple horse manure for that, at least he’ll know where to get it…
This is going to be…
September 18th, 2010 at 10:26 am
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freeman says:
And yet here you again… leaving more and more of a data trail for THEM to follow…
September 18th, 2010 at 10:27 amThe service you use to store videos and photos online can be used to build a profile about you and your friends. And, outdated privacy laws, written before the Web even existed, mean that all this personal information isn’t being properly protected from prying eyes
September 18th, 2010 at 10:28 amAlmost every American carries a cell phone, yet few think about the information these devices are collecting. Whether you’re visiting a therapist or liquor store, your location is available — in real time, and months later. This is a treasure trove of information that’s valuable to companies and the government, which uses it to follow many thousands of people a year.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:29 amLiberalidiots says:
Don’t have the slightest idea what that’s all about.
Gee. No kiddin’. I admire your honesty.
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And I admire your persistence.
It’s got to be difficult as hell with so little education.
Not that hard, considering the competition.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:32 amYou do know he’s dead right? An illegal has to be alive.
Why do you hate Jews?
September 18th, 2010 at 10:32 amInteresting. The far left has no choice but to characterize those who strive to be better human beings by describing them as repressed.
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Striving to be a better human being by forcing your ideology onto everyone else? That’s a good one. Maybe if some of you trolls start behaving like decent human beings your foolish comment might have some weight to it.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:33 amUse GPS ?
September 18th, 2010 at 10:33 amBecause of outdated privacy laws, the government claims that it doesn’t need a warrant to demand records of your location. And this data can reveal a lot about you: where you go, what you do, and who you know
Not a big deal, it was her first date and she was young.
To find out how wacko extremist she is now we should be asking these questions…
What do you think of Witchcraft?
September 18th, 2010 at 10:34 amDid you enjoy Witchcraft and did you get off on it?
Do you believe in religious freedom?
Do believe in the right to tell some one else how to live their life?
ETC.
eReaders and digital book services are nifty, but many also have the ability to collect and retain very detailed information about the reader, including how often a book is read, how long a page is viewed, and even what notes are written in the “margins.” Read More »
September 18th, 2010 at 10:34 amFearsLiberals says:
Better check with New Christine. According to the Old Testament, if you walk farther than a certain amount on the Sabbath, it’s an abomination.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:35 amLike it or not, a whole host of details about your life are exposed online. And unfortunately, given our outdated laws, your privacy is in bad shape.
There are countless ways to streamline and enhance our lives through the use of electronic technology. We should all be able to take advantage of these advances and, at the same time, be assured that our information will remain private and protected. Unfortunately, the laws established to do just that haven’t been updated since 1986. And the longer they remain out-of-date, the more your privacy is at risk.
Tell Congress to protect your privacy by updating the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA).
September 18th, 2010 at 10:35 amLiberalidiots says:
OK.
Have a nice day sparky.
Run away now, Junior. Daddy’s home….
September 18th, 2010 at 10:35 amThese old farts (trolls)who come here bright and early because they have nothing too live for anymore, are really sad. If I knew my life on earth were coming to an end soon, I sure as hell wouldn’t be wasting my precious time trolling at a blog.
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Thanks for the warning princess, now shut off your computer and run away before they find out where you live.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:37 amfreeman says:
Hey Freeman:
No one held a gun to the head of owners of GPS-equipped phones or cars and forced them to buy them. I’d argue that the purchase of such technology is a tacit accpetance of the fact that you can be tracked. Remember, no expectation of privacy…
September 18th, 2010 at 10:37 amIf nothing else, this finally explains how she won the primary…
September 18th, 2010 at 10:37 amWhat’s a petetion?
September 18th, 2010 at 10:38 amSo O’Donnell is a witch who dabbled with herself and dated another witch while going on a picnic at night at a Satanic alter. We shall see just how religious the right really is after they find this out.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:40 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Which witch was she with?
September 18th, 2010 at 10:40 amfreeman says:
Freeman, you’d better unplug your computer and leave it on a park bench right now, ’cause otherwise the black helicopter guys are gonna rappel down on your head in the next few minutes…
September 18th, 2010 at 10:41 amhttp://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/04/expert_consensus_obama_aping_bush_on_state_secrets.php?ref=fp1
September 18th, 2010 at 10:42 amthe concerned troll freeman sounds like a disgruntled Hillary voter.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:42 amCreeping Death says:
So O’Donnell is a witch who dabbled with herself and dated another witch while going on a picnic at night at a Satanic alter.
She went, but she didn’t impale.
D’oh!!
September 18th, 2010 at 10:43 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Their over here,
September 18th, 2010 at 10:44 amTheir over there,
Their even in freemans underwear!
EFF? Freeman, everyone knows those splitters are in league with the Romans, man…
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freeman says:
My middle schooler has a class in digital technology. The first lesson was to define personal information and instruct the students not to share it in emails. You are stating facts that everyone already knows. Unless of course you thought that your long-lost Nigerian cousin who wanted your checking account number to share a fortune with you was REAL??
September 18th, 2010 at 10:45 amfreeman, there is no escaping big brother, so you better just end your life now. Hurry before they come and take you away to a fema death camp! Die like a man freeman!
September 18th, 2010 at 10:46 amRWD @ 240: good one.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:46 amAlright, I see freeman is just another troll who loves attention, time for me to ignore this quivering mass of delusional jello.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:47 amPolicies that were wrong under George W. Bush are no less wrong because Barack Obama is in the White House.
One of the most disappointing aspects of the early months of the Obama administration has been its unwillingness to end many of the mind-numbing abuses linked to the so-called war on terror and to establish a legal and moral framework designed to prevent those abuses from ever occurring again
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/23/opinion/23herbert.html
September 18th, 2010 at 10:47 amLiberalidiots
“retired in 2005 after 30 years active duty Army.”
Just who’s army were you with?
September 18th, 2010 at 10:47 amIf I’m not mistaken…
And I’m usually not…
Freeman is about to bug outta here and go live in a cave…
September 18th, 2010 at 10:48 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I think it’s time to dispatch a black helicopter to pick up freeman.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:49 amHow’d this go down exactly?
“This guy (or gal?) asked me on this night picnic and I thought ‘what’s so important about meeting when the clock strikes thirteen?’ but whatev’s… cute, so I went. Turns out we had to butcher our own meat cutlets and there weren’t any kaiser rolls… plus, I didn’t like the chanting… worst date EVA.”
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Wicked witch of the North = Sarah Palin
Wicked witch of the West = Sharron Angle
Wicked witch of the East = Christine O’Donnell
They must be witches because I just don’t believe the American people are stupid enough to vote for such empty vessels of knowledge, they cast spells on the voters.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:50 amFearsLiberals says:
I’m not the one talking in all bold, there, Sparky.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:51 amblogbob says:
RWD @ 240: good one.
Thanks, BB
September 18th, 2010 at 10:51 amfreeman,
I have a suggestion. Why don’t you leave and start your own blog, where you can post all the off-topic things you want? It’s a win-win for all of us.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:51 amWait, who’s the South, Creeping?
Lindsey Graham?
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freeman says:
Was it Sir Winston chrurchill who observed that when both sides hated you, you were doing a good job??
September 18th, 2010 at 10:52 amCreeping Death says:
Wicked witch of the North = Sarah Palin
Wicked witch of the West = Sharron Angle
Wicked witch of the East = Christine O’Donnell
They must be witches because I just don’t believe the American people are stupid enough to vote for such empty vessels of knowledge, they cast spells on the voters.
Wicked witch of the South = Fred Thompsen
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belaccifer lacca says:
No, he’s the fairy queen.
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belaccifer lacca says:
Wait, who’s the South, Creeping?
Lindsey Graham?
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LOL!
No Lindsey is too much of a priss, Virginia Fox?
September 18th, 2010 at 10:54 amwhew! and here i thought it would take real time to read through these comments! … during STEPHANIE MILLER commercial breaks, of course…
plenty of trooll poop to scroll on past…
i used to try and read some of it, to gain a better understanding…
there is none to be had…
last night maher again made note of the pervasive phenom -
alternate and opposite universes exist these days…
and i know that I am in the real and good one…
the one thing that early religious (catholic) upbringing will do for you is teach the basic tenets of good/bad, right/wrong…
it is with some maturity and natural curiosity that one realizes that the sermon on the mount thing is basically disregarded by too many grown-ups, and, being a natural rebel-child, it’s easy to back away and stay true to self…
and teach your own children without the added guilt trips…
my daughter dabbled in religion during her high school years…
she figured it out before graduation…
my scientist son dabbled in pentagrams just to freak out his superiors…
they are the most well rounded, good natured young people i know…
now doing great things with their lives and for humanity.
i done good.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:55 amShe turned me into a newt!
Wuhl, I got better.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:56 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I believe suppressing the release of those torture photos were to protect our soldiers by not enraging Muslims. Of course you wouldn’t understand that would you?
September 18th, 2010 at 10:56 am30,000 more troops in Afghanistan? Good, that should have been done a long time ago.
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he group concludes that health professionals who facilitated these practices were in essence conducting research and experimentation on human subjects.
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Let me guess, you are one of the subjects they rejected.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:59 amFearsLiberals says:
“Biter?” I don’t think so.
As to living by “civilized standards,” I’ll just cite KKKarl Rove’s South Carolina Push Poll asking Christina White voters if they’d be upset if they learned that John McWetstart had fathered an illegitmate BROWN baby…
September 18th, 2010 at 11:01 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Little Christine, aka Palin’s mini me, will be embraced by the christian right for her dabbles. They love nothing more than to SAVE a sinner from the fires of hell. Especially one that is so openly in the enemies camp.
They believe that no that she is in their camp, God has forgiven and forgotten all her sins and so they should too. They don’t know that the sinners is probably making a fool of them.
September 18th, 2010 at 11:02 amfreeman says:
The group concludes that health professionals who facilitated these practices were in essence conducting research and experimentation on human subjects.
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Were they the ones who figured out how to put a human brain in a mouse, perchance? Hence the birth of the teabagger movement?
September 18th, 2010 at 11:02 amIt’s probably true that Freeman doesn’t like Obama, although you could never tell from his posts. (ar ar)
September 18th, 2010 at 11:05 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
without even reading any of it, freeman’s information is working on me!
now i’m more sure than ever that voting 3rd party, or even (R), is what MUST be done… there is no alternative!
gaaaaa!
the troolls couldn’t sway me, but freeman did!
NOT.
September 18th, 2010 at 11:09 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
277. PeggyAnn1 says:
Little Christine, aka Palin’s mini me, will be embraced by the christian right for her dabbles. They love nothing more than to SAVE a sinner from the fires of hell.
exactly.
September 18th, 2010 at 11:11 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
freeman says:
Go on vote down stories on human experimentation and crimes against humanity by the very people you are supporting .
I never vote you down; your posts have their place.
I do wish you would acquiesce to a conversation once in a while rather than simply postificate all the time.
What I think you fail to understand is that some of us are a bit apprehensive about Obama. The reason you get voted down is not because of the inconvenience of your “erudition”, but because you seem intent on rubbing everyone’s nose in it.
You could stand to be less a pain-in-the-ass, ya know.
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Right Wing Dystopia says:
… The reason you [freeman] get voted down is not because of the inconvenience of your “erudition”, but because you seem intent on rubbing everyone’s nose in it.
and insists on doing the (R)s work for them.
September 18th, 2010 at 11:32 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I’m late to this party but this is really good. Long before Harry Potter we had Christine the witch who now wants the Christian votes. If the church folks vote for this bimbo liar it’s truly a sad day. This woman lives off of education grants and campaign donations and is clearly insane which makes it understandable why bimbo Sarah likes her. Did Christine ever meet Lord Voltamort? Will she do magic for her supporters?
September 18th, 2010 at 11:34 amdespite their obvious poignancy to the discussion
Baloney! What do Obama’s comments at a thirty-thousand-dollar-a-plate fundraiser have to do with Christine O’Donnell’s idiotic admission that she “dabbled” in witchcraft?
September 18th, 2010 at 11:34 amWho would you describe as the members of this ‘mob’ that chased all the ‘better progressives’ off, freeman?
Why do you feel it is your role to tell us what to discuss?
September 18th, 2010 at 11:34 amyou PUT yourself in that role, freedom…
and it’s not appreciated… yet you insist.
what a martyr.
September 18th, 2010 at 11:35 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
do you think we don’t already KNOW those things…
jeesh.
September 18th, 2010 at 11:36 amAs a Neopagan of over 20 years, I can tell you that this is so off the mark, it’s hilarious. Satanism is not Witchcraft. Witchcraft is a modern religious movement that worships nature and the Old Ways. It has nothing to do with worshiping Satan. It sounds like poor little Christine ran into some wannabes who wanted to frighten their parents and took her to the woods to make out on an altar. That has nothing to do with what our religion does. If you want to be truly informed, read up on us, or TALK to us, instead of throwing around rumors and garbage. It is beneath us all to make judgments like this. READ – LEARN – and be open.
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She is a confused ignoramus. Witchcraft and Satanism are two very different things.
I suspect she was involved (either knowingly or unknowingly ) with Satanism because Wiccans who explore and/or practice witchcraft are generally quite intelligent and well-read; they also very rarely switch from Wicca ( which is extremely open-minded and tolerant ) to rigid, intolerant, and narrow-minded fundamentalism.
It is more likely that a Satanist would flip over to the other side of the same coin and become a Christian fundamentalist.
September 18th, 2010 at 11:39 amPlease point to the ‘mob’ which chased off the ‘better progressives’ freeman… I’ll wait.
September 18th, 2010 at 11:42 amSure you know enough of these things to find them toxic to the democrats don’t you , even while you neglect to bring them up and berate me for doing so .
The democrats don’t own the progressive movement any more than the republican party owns the tea partiers .
September 18th, 2010 at 11:45 amOh oh! Those hoofbeats you hear Christine are those Christian rightwing nuts dumping you in drives!LMAO
September 18th, 2010 at 11:50 amOops.
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If there’s one thing the FundiGelicals love more than a life-long Christian, it’s a BornAgain who has mended her sinful ways. O’Donnell claims she was a hard-partying whore who was led into Satanism, but had her BornAgain moment while in college and is now pious and saved.
George W did the same thing and they lap it up like mother’s milk.
‘Course, Christine’s talk with God apparently didn’t include a need for honesty or payment of debts so she’ll either wind up in the US Senate or jail.
PEACE
September 18th, 2010 at 11:51 amfreeman says:
Here’s the problem in my mind Dystopia , these FACTS are never discussed here , despite their obvious poignancy to the discussion and so I find my self in the role ( now that the better progressive posters have left the site as a result of mob rule and ugliness on the part of the new “regulars”) of being the only one here willing to bring them into the dialogue .
You make a fair point, but I’m not certain it’s entirely accurate or fair. The site, after all, is not called ThinkObama. There should be no expectation that anti-Obama sentiments should necessarily be embraced or challenged simply because the site is a progressive site. In order for that to be the case, you would have to assume that Obama is a progressive with seamless affinity for all progressive sentiments, especially those espoused here or in your posts.
Obama is a uniquely American politician. His candidacy, like every other American politician’s candidacy, was aspirational. I knew the minute he won, he would be considered the worst president ever by select groups; namely, his most ardent supporters and his most ardent opposition because he could never live up to all his aspirations and because his aspirations scare the righties to death.
Given how far the country has moved to the right since the mid-seventies, I am satisfied with Obama’s tone. I am aware that Obama has vacated some of his promises, but I knew some of his promises were meant to inspire momentum in a more progressive direction.
I don’t expect to get everything I want today nor do I expect to get everything I want ever. It’s not just about me. I only hope that we use the momentum to build a more progressive future. If abandoning Obama makes sense to you because he has not filled the potential you imputed on him, so be it. I didn’t vote for him, but I will the next time around because I think the direction is better for the country.
September 18th, 2010 at 11:53 amhttp://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/09/17/obama-mocks-public-option-supporters/
September 18th, 2010 at 11:56 amShe “dabbled in witchcraft”…?
*facepalm*
September 18th, 2010 at 11:58 amWell then , you’ll be filling in for me in the next election and I do respect that .
I will not call you names or mischaracterize you .
You deserve respect for being true to your beliefs and acting in such a way as you believe will accomplish the most in that direction .
A conservative posting here should be afforded the same as should a progressive that is further left than the average poster to this site .
I do not know the answer , but I firmly believe that only by looking in an unbiased fashion at the situation can we begin to form a strategy to fix the problems confronting us .
September 18th, 2010 at 12:03 pmfreeman says:
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/09/17/obama-mocks-public-option-supporters/
This post is a perfect example of your willful ignorance. Obama is not mocking anyone, he is saying: “hey, I forced the camel’s nose under the, in spite of those who supported me. If they wanted the public option so damn bad, where were their voices, where was their vocal support? Why weren’t they out in the streets supporting what they wanted. I got something done and all they seem able to do is b1tch, b1tch, b1tch!!”
September 18th, 2010 at 12:07 pmhttp://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/
i’ll take it.
September 18th, 2010 at 12:08 pmFreeman,
I really believe your heart is in the right place, and I am not denying any of the issues you point out. They bother me, too.
But just barfing problems, without a path to solution or engaged conversation, is really not that much different than right-wing “NOOOO!”
I personally think western representative democracy is in trouble, and find a lot of interesting promise in developments in South America. Rather than just shout, you may want to look into that, specifically how Aymaras in Bolivia are organizing themselves.
I reckon you’ll get a lot more energy and positive motivation out of that.
September 18th, 2010 at 12:10 pmFunny when he even is widely believed to have stood against the PO
September 18th, 2010 at 12:11 pmhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/ny-times-reporter-confirm_b_500999.html
I happen to be a proponent of single payer said Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE
September 18th, 2010 at 12:12 pm“You are wrong Lidiot. Christians treat athiests like second class citizens every day, everywhere in America, not just the south.
No one cares sport.
We don’t care.”
Who’s “we”, Bob? Previously you claimed to be a Buddhist.
September 18th, 2010 at 12:17 pmTired Of It All (November WATERLOO!) says:
“Christine O’Donnell In Oct. 1999: ‘I Dabbled Into Witchcraft’”
The only question that I have: does she weigh more, or less, than a duck?
“SHE LOOKS LOIK ONE!!!” (Well, we did do the nose…”
September 18th, 2010 at 12:17 pmWhen your country begins to claim the right to arrest you on no charges , ship you to secret prisons in the third world and or assassinate you , you had better start complaining at the very least .
The squeaky wheel gets the grease .
But merely telling critics to , shut up ,buckle up and vote for the people who have supported these policies because the other guys are even worse is an exercise in insanity and lacking any sort of historical perspective .
I am not plagued with that problem , my in laws lived through Nazi Germany and my best friends growing up were Chileans living in exile .
September 18th, 2010 at 12:20 pmA little blood on the altar? Are you sure it wasn’t a little blood on the sheets? It sounds like one of her other personalities took over for a bit, and that’s how the Good Girl Christine explains it away.
September 18th, 2010 at 12:22 pmit would’ve been a lot easier if he were a dictator, huh…
September 18th, 2010 at 12:22 pmhttp://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah
September 18th, 2010 at 12:23 pmSorry but to be honest seeking expansion of Bush’s worst policies in the courts is not being powerless . The AMerican public supported both the PO (overwhelmingly) and single payer at rates approaching 70 % .
September 18th, 2010 at 12:25 pmJohn Stewart is as bad a troll as I am . He broadcast on prime time TV the very things I have been saying for the last year .
Obama ran on restoring the constitution as his central plank during the time of a constitutional crisis as a constitutional law professor and he has done exactly he opposite of that in the courts and by executive fiat .
September 18th, 2010 at 12:29 pmThese issues are being discussed in every other forum , you think keeping them off the radar on this site isemocr helping the Dats election chances ?
God are you in denial .
September 18th, 2010 at 12:31 pmFreeman,
Stop spamming the threads and go get your own damn blog.
You are such a concern troll.
September 18th, 2010 at 12:33 pmKaty isn’t that what Bush said ?
September 18th, 2010 at 12:33 pmfreeman says:
Katy isn’t that what Bush said ?
ha! i used to think you must be pretty smart, until that…
now i have no regrets ignoring your posts…
i don’t even bother to vote them down, preacherman…
September 18th, 2010 at 12:51 pmEditors: In this context, it’s spelled “altar.”
September 18th, 2010 at 12:53 pmAnd thus we see a fundamental principle of physics demonstrated:
September 18th, 2010 at 12:58 pmThe farther from the midpoint of sanity that the pendulum is drawn in one direction, the farther that it will swing in the opposite direction.
Freeman,
I’m probably going to regret this at some time, but here it goes anyway.
You been told over and over and over that sometimes you do have constructive opinions, but most of the time you continue bit ching endlessly about problems that cannot be solved or addressed at present time.
For instance, you keep on and on and on about how the Health Care Bill is flawed and is far from perfect. Guess what, that is not NEWS and it is not a surprise to anyone and there are plenty of people dissatisfied with it.
Now let me ask you. Would you rather have SOMETHING or NOTHING?
Let me tell you a little personal story. The other night we went out to the mall with plans for Japanese food for dinner later. One of the nephews didn’t tag along in the beginning; he said he would join us at the restaurant. Fine. At the mall, we started eating snacks, candy, cake, soda, ice cream, and so on. By the time we were supposed to have dinner, we were full so we decided to just go for burgers. We called our nephew to let him know of the change in plans and he didn’t sound too happy; he said he rather stay at home if he was not going to have the Japanese food and only a simple burger. Fine.
When we came back home, the kid was bit ching he was hungry and he hadn’t had any dinner, and it was all our fault.
Can you see what you are doing, Freeman?
September 18th, 2010 at 1:03 pmthe road to ignominy is paved with smug.
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“There is nothing quite as off-putting as self-righteousness”
September 18th, 2010 at 1:38 pm~Gregor Samsa
LOLOLOL!
Just keep on TALKING Crazy Chrissy!
PLEASE…take follow the lead and the examples of your T.HaterBagger LEADERS, St. Sarah McMoneyWhore, Scary Sharry, and Batty Bachmann…and KEEP TALING!
PLEASE!!!! America really wants…and NEEDS…to hear you.
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You can not indefinitely detain 65% of the population till after the election but if these laws are allowed to stand we may well see that put to the test in the future .
That is based on historical facts an actual probability !
September 18th, 2010 at 1:56 pmToo, too funny. I’ve known several witches and they certainly weren’t anti-masturbation. Perhaps the latter was an over-correction of sorts on her part.
She had no hope of winning any centrist votes and this will make most of the extremist rightwingers in Delaware stay home on election day. They’d never put their eternal souls at risk by voting for a witch! Teeeheheheeee
September 18th, 2010 at 1:58 pmThat is the reason the constitution was written in the first place !
A document you seem to no longer have any use for !
September 18th, 2010 at 1:58 pmWhen I brought these concerns to Washington DC ,Patty Murray’s office , her legal aide told me he couldn’t fault me in any of my arguments as regards these policies and the present administrations embrace of them .He was also very troubled .
Murray voted against the patriot act and I will be voting for her in Nov.
If Cantwell was running I would be staying home entirely .
September 18th, 2010 at 2:04 pmJon Stewart does not spam this blog with exhaustively repititive concern trolling.
See the difference?
You’re a troll not because of your criticisms of the Obama administration, but because of the shrill, obnoxious, condescending and monotonous way you criticize the Obama administration.
This is a distinction you constantly fail to grasp.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:09 pmYou should ask a surviver of Nazi Germany what happens when such laws are allowed to stand .
Maybe you can gain some actual perspective .
September 18th, 2010 at 2:10 pmOh I get it Ralph . But I think what’s at stake is worth taking heat for .
I have no problem with talking truth to power while you focus on the lunatic fringe of the party that isn’t .
I even understand why you believe that is the right thing to do but I have never been very good at follow the leader .
Sorry but I will continue to be a thorn in your side as long as these laws stand between my children and their basic inalienable human rights .
September 18th, 2010 at 2:18 pmMy mother in law still cannot not manage to throw away spoiled food in her pantry , despite being highly educated and cultured because she remembers nearly starving for years as a child after the war .
September 18th, 2010 at 2:21 pmThis blog is joined at the hip with the party establishment and made it’s debut critizing Bush for the same criminality which you now want to ignore under Obama .
I know ,I was among the first posters to show up here .
September 18th, 2010 at 2:23 pmThe special Massachusetts election for the safest democratic seat in the nation was a wake up call to the party establishment which ignored the lesson and moved further right .So be it .
The mid terms is going to be a virtual blood bath .
Keep catering to the right and the progressives will abandon the party altogether !
September 18th, 2010 at 2:32 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Perhaps. But if your efforts are counterproductive, then it’s wasted energy.
So I don’t think you really get it.
Frankly, you seem to spam like this more for entertainment value than for any attempts at discourse. I don’t know whether you get off on feeling like you’re the lone voice crying in the wilderness or if you’re just a standard concern troll. But either way, whatever points you appear to try to make get quickly lost in your habitual blizzard of “progressiver than thou” alarmism.
But it seems to be the way you like it.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:58 pmOn this website I AM the lone voice crying in the wilderness , anywhere else I am just one of the crowd .
September 18th, 2010 at 3:06 pmThe fact that we don’t agree on the best strategy in dealing with the unmentionable is obvious as is the fact that your proposed method isn’t working very well for the democrats at all .
Of course that only applies if you are actually concerned with the issues my opinions and links raise in the first place , which is hardly evident from your posts .
September 18th, 2010 at 3:09 pmSure why should American be alarmed when their phones are tapped soviet style and their government claims the right to arrest them without charge or assassinate them for the good of the state ?
Like I say , it’s hardly evident from your posts that you oppose such policies .
September 18th, 2010 at 3:11 pmChristine O’Donnell In Oct. 1999: ‘I Dabbled Into Witchcraft’
B.F.D.
I don’t want to know all the crazy crap many members of congress have “dabbled” in during their lifetimes. …
Signed,
September 18th, 2010 at 3:14 pmBarney Frank
Good grief! I gather that O’Donnell admits having spent her college years rather vigorously rebelling against her Catholic upbringing — but she really went all out, didn’t she? It would appear that being a party girl just didn’t cut it as far as she was concerned. In all honesty, I can only think of a couple of ways in which she could have possibly rebelled any more fiercely than by choosing to hang out with a group of satanists!
All kidding aside, however…O’Donnell apparently believes (and would have us believe) that all witches are the same when this is not the case. If the ceremonies which O’Donnell claims to remember truly involved blood, then it seems likely that this particular group was following what some call the Left-Hand Path in which the will and desires of the ego are considered paramount regardless of what impact they may have on other people. To the best of my knowledge, based on my own experimentation with Wicca while I was in college, most Wiccans do not use blood as part of their magickal practice. They do carry knives (or athames) but these are not used to cut flesh or shed blood — indeed, they’re seldom used to cut anything but are instead primarily used as a symbol of the masculine aspect and as a focal point for the direction of intentional energy. Of course, the possibility can’t be ruled out that O’Donnell is (for whatever reason) simply making all this up — after all, she didn’t provide much information and what little she did provide is so generic and stereotypical that she could just as easily have picked it out of a book or a movie without having ever encountered a real self-professed witch.
September 18th, 2010 at 3:17 pmHappy Birthday Chile !!!
Sorry we haven’t ever officially apologized for overthrowing your democratically elected government and installing a dictator in it’s place .
September 18th, 2010 at 3:24 pmOf course you are, dear.
trés heroic of you.
September 18th, 2010 at 3:25 pmBut hey , we’re Amerika , we can do whatever we want !
September 18th, 2010 at 3:25 pmHey Ralph .. do you know why there has never been a coup in the US ?
September 18th, 2010 at 3:28 pmBecause there is no American embassy here .
September 18th, 2010 at 3:29 pmWith all due respect, Freeman, could you at least make some effort to address the topic? I agree on principle with some of the things you’re saying, but this is really not the most appropriate place in which to discuss them. You do realize that nearly one-fifth of the posts on this thread so far are yours and that not a single of them is in any way directly germane to the topic at hand? While there may not be a specific rule as such which says that you always have to stay on topic, most people understand that part of being an ethical netizen involves having the courtesy and the respect to contribute something of relevance to the topic when you’re posting on someone else’s site. Completely refusing to do this and attempting to hijack or dominate the thread is neither courteous nor respectful, and I suspect that it’s this behavior and not your perspective which is prompting other people to vote you down. (After all, from what I gather based on some of what you’ve posted so far, isn’t part of your frustration with the Obama administration based on their attempts to continue the control and dominance over the political discourse which started with the Bush administration??? And rightly or wrongly, the fact is that they’re in charge here in this country and therefore have the power to dictate policy — whereas you are not in charge of this site and therefore do not have that power.)
Personally, I think that Ralph had a helpful suggestion — instead of complaining about the fact that this blog is not addressing the points which you consider important (when you’re not the one who’s in charge), why not start your own blog where you can cover these issues to your heart’s content?
September 18th, 2010 at 4:06 pmIf she practices Witchcraft she will fit right in with all the other Satanists in Washington. She can hang with George W., Bill and Hillary, Obama and various criminals at Bohemian Grove.
To think that she could be nominated, and she was probably a better choice than the other GOP stooge running. But what do you expect when 68% of the American people said picking people randomly out of the phone book would create a less corrupt, more competent Congress than what we currently have now? Unfortunately those 68% of the people are correct.
September 18th, 2010 at 4:18 pmFreeman, We don’t apologize for overthrowing another nation and installing a dictator. We just the bomb the crap out of that nation and kill the dictator when he begins to annoy us. Of course we kill innocent civlians too (those pesky drone aircraft and inaccurate bunker busting bombs!!). Look at Iraq and Saddam Hussein. Spent 20 million to help him take over Iraq. Let a decade or two go by and then spent 50 Billion to blow Iraq to smithereens. The guess what? The American middle class gets to pay for an Unconstitutional War they didn’t want it the first place. And no one is at fault because the GOP blames it on the Dems and the Dems blame it on the GOP. Nifty little shell game the makers of military might and the banking cartels have.
September 18th, 2010 at 4:23 pmfreeman,
John was the lone voice in the wilderness, not you. However you are just a common sense guy who can see things as they really are and annoy all the statist, Fabian socialists here who actually believe they are Liberals. There are some a–holes here who have actually argued that Progressives are the same things as liberals.
Spelling America with a “k” is getting old. Besides it has become a perfect blend of Fabian and National Socialism with a healthy dose of Corporatism.
September 18th, 2010 at 4:29 pmThe “k” just implies National Socialism…
September 18th, 2010 at 4:30 pmLiberal, what’s your problem with Fabians?
September 18th, 2010 at 4:48 pm“The “confusion” between Old-style Pagan beliefs and Satanism was created by the Inquisition, and it is continued by religious bigots and haters.”
If you think there is no connection or resemblance between Neo-paganism and Satanism you need to try opening your eyes from time to time.
And as for the Spanish Inquisition no one expected it.
September 18th, 2010 at 5:08 pmGreat , I had no idea John was posting here .
Now I’ll have someone to share my locusts with .
September 18th, 2010 at 5:33 pmAwww…satanism schmatanism…this is ‘Merica where we got freedumb of religion and there is no religious test to run for public orifices…give the gal a break.
September 18th, 2010 at 6:19 pmInteresting pickle this girl is in… if she goes on the news programs and she is asked about it, then she could say she was just making it up to get attention on a national TV program (which I suspect is the case) which would lessen her credibility.
But if she admits that she actually participated in something like this at all, then I am not sure that Palin’s pastor that drove the witch out of African village or even Palin herself would approve for that matter…
And of the pagans and witches that I have met through the years, not a one says that they go to the forest and dance around naked in the moonlight or stuff like that… that stuff seems to be all imaginary stereotypical BS.
September 18th, 2010 at 6:38 pmfreeman says:
September 18th, 2010 at 6:44 pmOn this website I AM the lone voice crying in the wilderness
You remind me of the gentleman who took over the Discovery Channel station at gunpoint and started shooting…James Lee was his name…
She is a confused ignoramus. Witchcraft and Satanism are two very different things.
I suspect she was involved (either knowingly or unknowingly ) with Satanism because Wiccans who explore and/or practice witchcraft are generally quite intelligent and well-read; they also very rarely switch from Wicca (which is extremely open-minded and tolerant) to rigid, intolerant, and narrow-minded fundamentalism.
It is more likely that a Satanist would flip over to the other side of the same coin and become a Christian fundamentalist. — LucidPanther
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For the most part, I agree. In fact, in my honest opinion, just because someone professes to be a Christian does not automatically mean that they aren’t following the Left-Hand Path — and just for the record, speaking as someone who was raised in a very liberal Protestant denomination, I can think of a couple of New Testament passages which back this up.
I suspect that one of the things which drew O’Donnell to the group of whom she speaks and which eventually drew her back into evangelical Christianity is the element of and emphasis on control. In my opinion (even though I very much doubt that they could ever acknowledge this consciously, even in the privacy of their own thoughts) this is one thing which a large number of fundamentalist Christians seem to have in common with those who follow the Left-Hand Path — both have a consuming urge to dominate other people. The difference as I see it is that those who follow the Left-Hand Path actually have more integrity because they consciously recognize this urge within themselves and acknowledge it openly — but the fundamentalist Christians vehemently deny that they have any such urges, and usually either attribute them to other people or rationalize it by saying that they’re just doing it for the other person’s own good (when neither the other person nor anyone else gave them the right to make that decision).
That being said, I chose not to become a Wiccan because based on my experience, those who follow the Right-Hand Path are not completely free from the desire to control and manipulate others either — but I also recognize that this is a fault in human nature rather than with Wicca itself. “An ye harm none, do what thou wilt” is not such a bad maxim — but the problem as I see it is that good intention, unfortunately, isn’t always enough to produce good action and just because you think you aren’t harming anyone doesn’t mean that you aren’t (which is why we have the Law Of Unintended Consequences).
September 18th, 2010 at 7:13 pmJust coming from someone who is a currently practicing witch. I have been into witchcraft in one form or another for the past decade, and have yet to ever seen an altar with blood on it, and yes I have been to a “Black Mass”. Also just so people do understand this within Wicca and contemporary witchcraft each practitioner is called a witch without regard to gender. Just my $.02
September 18th, 2010 at 7:19 pmAwww…satanism schmatanism…this is ‘Merica where we got freedumb of religion and there is no religious test to run for public orifices…give the gal a break. — SusyC
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Personally, the fact that O’Donnell apparently experimented with the Left-Hand Path while she was in college doesn’t bother me at all. As I said before, I think people who consciously pursue the Left-Hand Path actually have more integrity than those who are pursuing it without even being aware of it because they acknowledge their desire to dominate and manipulate others. I don’t think that ethics and integrity are necessarily one and the same — I think it’s possible to be an ethical person without integrity (if you reason for being ethical is primarily fear of punishment), and I think it’s possible for an unethical person to have integrity (if they acknowledge their own lack of ethics but feel little guilt or shame over it). However, I very much doubt that someone who was openly pursuing the Left-Hand Path could ever be elected to public office since the motives of such a person would be antithetical to the principles on which this nation was founded. (Granted, we’ve got a lot of people like that in Washington right now but none of them would ever dare admit openly that they’re serving themselves instead of us and they might not even realize it themselves.)
No…what does bother me about O’Donnell is her own inability to perceive just how ignorant, insecure, and power-mad she really is (not to mention how emotionally disturbed she might be) as well as her apparent reluctance to educate herself and her eagerness to pass her ignorance off as fact. For some time now, it’s been my firm belief that those who think they know it all and don’t need to ask any more questions are the people who should be avoided.
September 18th, 2010 at 7:42 pmTwo observations:
1) What a great move by Bill Maher. He didn’t air this video footage of Christine O’Donnell on Politically Incorrect until after O’Donnell beat Castle in the Republican’s Delaware primary.
2) Did the Republican Party (either the establishment Republicans or Teabaggers) vet Christine O’Donnell thoroughly? Neither the Republican establishment (Castle’s campaign) nor the Teabaggers backing O’Donnell appear to have known about O’Donnell’s Politically Incorrect appearance nor her “I dabbled into witchcraft” statement.
Still, Bill Maher airing this after the primary was masterful and may help beat back the ultra-wingnut Teabagger candidates around the country, just adding another dimension (and talking point) to how crazed these fringe Republicans really are…and how dangerous their brand of Republicanism is to our democracy and the future of our nation’s children.
September 18th, 2010 at 9:08 pm“Dabbled in witchcraft…”
This is a problem? Isn’t “Wiccan” a legitimately recognized religion by the U.S. gub’mint??
My, my. There’s a a lot of intolerance and bigotry from you progressive thinkers.
But, that’s SOP from you Lefties.
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September 18th, 2010 at 10:03 pmI rememberr her from the old PI in the 90s. I think she is more attractive than Palin by far – in a purely asthetic sense, but actually even dumber.I always thought she was a protestant fundie, not Catholic. It kind of explains her celebacy – google beata.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:50 pmTrue believers avoid pesky things like facts. This will give her supporters an opportunity to paint her as a victim of the media. Soon the House will be filled with these loons. We are screwed.
September 18th, 2010 at 10:58 pm“Dabbled in witchcraft…”
This is a problem? Isn’t “Wiccan” a legitimately recognized religion by the U.S. gub’mint??
My, my. There’s a a lot of intolerance and bigotry from you progressive thinkers.
But, that’s SOP from you Lefties. — LocomotiveBreath1901
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C’mon, LB…most of the people here aren’t down on O’Donnell for “dabbling in witchcraft”. You know that as well as we do, so stop blowing smoke — although perhaps I shouldn’t expect anything else from someone who goes by the handle “LocomotiveBreath” (since locomotives typically do produce a lot of smoke)!
No…a lot of the people on this site are down on O’Donnell because she’s presenting herself as some sort of authority on witchcraft when she’s clearly not and implying that all kinds of witches are alike when this is not true. In much the same way that many of the world’s other religions do, witchcraft comes in more than one flavor (so to speak). An Orthodox Jew and a Reform Jew ostensibly believe in the same God and honor the same religious text, but that doesn’t mean that they act exactly alike — nor do a Nazarene and a United Methodist, even though both are Christians. In fact, there’s even more variety within the general category of “witchcraft” since this technically covers a range of different belief systems including both the Right-Hand Path (such as Wicca) and the Left-Hand Path (such as Satanism). As I pointed out in an earlier post, if O’Donnell is telling the truth about the group with which she was involved (and personal recall is often faulty), they were almost certainly pursuing a Left-Hand Path tradition since the Right-Hand Path does not typically use blood in their ceremonial practice.
September 18th, 2010 at 11:30 pmMichelle Malkin: Bill Maher’s witch hunt — and the missing context for O’Donnell’s remarks
September 19th, 2010 at 3:33 amhttp://michellemalkin.com/2010/09/18/bill-mahers-witch-hunt-and-the-missing-context-for-odonnells-remarks/
What is she like 15 there brother shes a witch like Bill Maher is a comedian or has any talent, He is just a scared bitter aging wannabe. Keep it up running scared I love it.
September 19th, 2010 at 5:08 amI dabbed into witchcraft when I was younger.
Though my dabbing didn’t involve any blood, it did involve a guy who sold advertisement ideas to clients who later looked different than he did initially, a nosy next door neighbor, a mischievous cousin , uncle and mother and eventually a pretty little girl and later a handsome young boy.
I will admit that I don’t recall them worshipping satan, but that my have been obscured in the comedy for all I know.
September 19th, 2010 at 7:22 amTo #6 response – no male Witches aren’t “warlocks”, they’re just Witches. Maybe she dated a Voodoo priest, they sometimes use live chickens etc? Don’t know where the idea of ‘blood’ would come from except in the perverted fundamentalist Christian mindscape with its sacrifice of the innocent to atone for the sins of the guilty.
This woman is simply an ignoramus and so are all her fans.
September 19th, 2010 at 9:46 amLOL, she looks like a witch!
http://www.online-privacy.eu.tc
September 19th, 2010 at 10:45 amChristine O’Donnell simply bewitched Delaware voters.
See: http://bit.ly/cW5s6a
September 19th, 2010 at 11:15 amLet’s talk stupid comments Maher, how about the comment you made comparing mentally disabled children to dogs? How about your comment directly following the 9/11 attacks shown here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97KllcZidKQ
Wow, try finding something of substance on her as an adult..not a teenager. Everyone does stupid things as a teen.
September 19th, 2010 at 12:46 pmThey are all running scared Maher, (chills up my leg)Mathews.NBC,CBS and more than anyone Obama. The satinists are the Obama followers and Obama IS Satan. The guy from your high school special class could do better.
September 19th, 2010 at 3:01 pmI still dont get where they come up with comedian when refering to Bill Maher Ive watched all kinds of video clips and I dont see funny in any of them, Plenty of stupid. But no funny.
To #304 response – ummmmm, it was O’Donnell who while an adult told the world about this alleged episode with a ’satanic witch’ and about dabbling in ‘witchcraft’. I’d agree we shouldn’t bring up to older people silliness they partook of in their youth but she’s citing this crap herself and demonstrating extreme ignorance in the doing of it as an adult.
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