Violent Dreams May Precede Brain Disease
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By Laura Sanders, Science News
- August 4, 2010 |
- 1:19 pm |
- Categories: Brains and Behavior
Vivid, violent dreams can portend brain disorders by half a century, a new study finds. The result, reported in the August 10 Neurology, highlights how some neurological diseases may take hold decades before a person is diagnosed. Spotting early warning signs of the disease may allow clinicians to monitor and treat patients long before the brain deteriorates.
People with a mysterious sleep disturbance called REM sleep behavior disorder, or RBD, experience a sudden change in the nature of dreams. Dreams increasingly become more violent and frequently involve episodes in which an attacker must be fought off. The normal muscle paralysis that accompanies dreams is gone, leaving the dreamer, who is most often male, to act out the dream’s punches, twists and yells. In many cases, a person sharing the dreamer’s bed can be injured.
Doctors used to think of RBD as an isolated disorder. But follow-up studies revealed that a striking number of these patients later develop neurodegenerative diseases, including Parkinson’s disease and Lewy body dementia. The exact figures vary, but some studies find that anywhere from 80 to 100 percent eventually get a neurodegenerative disorder.
“The consensus among all RBD researchers is that it’s not a matter of if, but when,” says sleep expert Carlos Schenck of the Minnesota Regional Sleep Disorders Center in Minneapolis, who was one of the first researchers to describe RBD. “Basically, the longer you follow these men, the more they will convert to a neurodegenerative disorder.”
In the new study, neurologist Bradley Boeve of the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, and his colleagues wanted to know just how long the interval between RBD and a neurodegenerative disorder can be. “Everybody who sees patients with this knew it could go on for a long time,” Boeve says, but nobody knew just how long.
Boeve and his team examined medical records of patients from the Mayo Clinic to identify people diagnosed first with RBD and then with a neurodegenerative disorder at least 15 years later.
Of the 27 patients who fit the criteria (of which only three were women, reflecting the curious male predominance of RBD), the median interval between onset of the sleep disorder and of the neurological disorder was 25 years, the team found. For six of these patients, Boeve says, the sleep disorder was first noticed by their spouse on their honeymoon or shortly afterward. In one case, RBD preceded Parkinson’s disease by 50 years.
The researchers can’t estimate how frequently this happens in the general population, because patients were selected to have a minimum interval of 15 years between the onset of RBD and diagnosis of neurodegenerative disease. But finding such long intervals between diseases was unexpected.
“In the neurodegenerative realm, we just don’t know any other clinical manifestations that can start so far in advance,” Boeve says. “There are so few other illnesses that can have a window of decades from one clinical manifestation to another.”
The 50-year interval uncovered in the study is an “extraordinarily long and slow lag period,” Schenck says. “That’s the big news.”
Such a long interval brings the hope that once a “mysterious and magical neuroprotective agent is identified,” Schenck says, it could be used before the brain is damaged severely. Some researchers think that by the time dementia symptoms appear, it is already too late to undo the damage.
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Clearly there is a strong correlation, but how have they teased out cause and effect? It seems like having a debilitating sleep order, rather than being a symptom of a developing mental illness could be part of the cause. There are all sorts of negative effects on the brain due to prolonged sleep deprivation. Spending 20 years acting out violent dreams doesn’t sound very restful. Even if they are getting a full nights sleep, clearly, there is something wrong with their sleeping process. It could be that there sleep is no longer performing the proper function.
So is it the violent dreams in and of themselves or the disconnect of the “paralysis” while dreaming action sequences the indicator? Because I have had some kick a** vivid dreams but never tossed about while dreaming and then wake up exhilarated and refreshed from having successfully kicked a**.
Well, I’m screwed. I get really, um, intense dreams. The sort of stuff that would give H.P Lovecraft a case of the fits.
b.s. Go watch violent action flick before you go sleep and see what happens.
For those that are worried because they have similar symptoms, be advised that there are other causes that produce similar results such as prolonged periods of inadequate sleep where the REM stage is not achieved. Causes can be the standard reasons for insomnia as well as drug/alcohol abuse resulting in withdrawal symptoms that produce extremely vidid, intense, and offense disturbing dreams.
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I dream about fighting off zombies all the time … am i going crazy?!?!