Three people suspected of having links to al Qaeda were arrested in Norway and Germany today. “They are suspected of committing terrorist crimes, period,” said Janne Kristiansen, the head of Norway’s Police Security Service. The suspects — a Uighur from China, an Iraqi, and an Uzbek — are said to “be linked to bomb plots in the US and UK.”
The Congressional Budget Office has found that the Senate’s climate change legislation would reduce the deficit by $19 billion over the next decade if enacted. “There is no more room for excuses; this must be our year to pass comprehensive climate and energy legislation and begin to send a price signal on carbon,” said the legislation’s authors, Sens. John Kerry (D-MA) and Joe Lieberman (I-CT).
Former White House green jobs adviser Van Jones spoke at the Campus Progress National Conference yesterday and encouraged students to be patient with Obama. “We’re trying to build a pro-democracy movement in a country that at least for eight years was run by straight-up authoritarians, and it’s not going to be easy,” he said. Jones added that despite his “rough exit,” the whole experience was “worth it.”
BP is pushing to have relief wells complete by July 27 on its runaway Gulf well, “weeks before the deadline the company is discussing publicly” of mid-August. At the behest of the federal government, BP is also “readying a series of backup plans in case its current operations go awry.” The moves are seen as a bid to reassure investors.
International Monetary Fund’s latest assessment of the global economy, released today, predicted “the world economy will grow faster than expected this year,” but that the “recovery remains overshadowed by major risks, and the pace of growth is likely to slow next year.”
TARP makes a profit. “According to a Keefe Bruyette & Woods report issued yesterday, the Capital Purchase Program (CPP), a major part of TARP, has generated a 10.3 percent return on investment from the 61 banks that have fully repaid the government.”
The Military Times has obtained a draft-copy of a “confidential survey of 400,000 active-duty and reserve troops’ attitudes on service by openly gay people.” While the Pentagon said the actual questions contain “substantial” changes, but the tone of the draft “leans toward the potential impact that repealing ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ might have on unit performance.”
Gen. David Petraeus will “issue a new tactical directive” to clarify the rules of engagement in Afghanistan. The new directive will not change the rules but will “clarify actions soldiers may take” under the rules so as to “clear up confusion and alleviate frustration” felt by troops in the field.
An independent commission in the UK “cleared climate-change researchers of charges of academic misconduct” making it “the latest to find no evidence that researchers embroiled in the ‘Climate-gate’scandal had violated academic standards.” After reviewing evidence from the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit, the commission said, “We find that their rigor and honesty as scientists are not in doubt.”
And finally: South Carolina Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Alvin Greene’s jobs plan: “They can make toys of me.”
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“Three people suspected of having links to al Qaeda were arrested in Norway and Germany today. “They are suspected of committing terrorist crimes, period,” said Janne Kristiansen, the head of Norway’s Police Security Service.”
Terrorist crimes? Law enforcement officials should check for ties to teabaggers, republiscum and conservatards in the US.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:05 amI really do hope that a climate change bill passes this year and it’s good news that the CBO says it will reduce the deficit. However, the rich entrenched interests of BIG Oil, automobile manufacturers, highway builders, and utilities – and their buddies in the Republican party – will vigorously fight any effort to control CO2. President Obama and the Democrats need to be selling the benefits of their climate change legislation to the public.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:07 am“Former White House green jobs adviser Van Jones spoke at the Campus Progress National Conference yesterday and encouraged students to be patient with Obama. “We’re trying to build a pro-democracy movement…”
Pro-democracy? That will never work for republiscum.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:08 amMaybe Mark Siljander helped finance those captured in Norway and Germany.
I find it ironic that all the antagonists here label us as “America haters”, “terrorist supporters”, “Islamo-facials”, and such, YET, it is a CONservative who gets caught red handed funding the Taliban.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:08 amFBI arrested five suspected Al Qaeda members planning to blow up subways in NYC and the UK.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:11 amBarely a blip in the mainstream media.
Had anything like this occurred under Dumbya, they would be touting it as the next best thing to OBL in handcuffs.
Well, now that “Climate-gate” is no longer truly an issue and has been basically proven false, where are all the Al Gore antagonists on the East coast who mocked him and climate change during the cold hard winter?
Now that it is brutally hot with little relief in site!
Hello?
July 8th, 2010 at 9:12 amAn independent commission in the UK “cleared climate-change researchers of charges of academic misconduct
Cue the crickets from the “lamestream” librul media. cue the pots n’ pans and feces hurling from Faux and Clearchannel that this is “whitewash”.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:12 amDRxJ (Striving for a Troll Free Tomorrow, Today!) says:
Maybe Mark Siljander helped finance those captured in Norway and Germany.
I find it ironic that all the antagonists here label us as “America haters”, “terrorist supporters”, “Islamo-facials”, and such, YET, it is a CONservative who gets caught red handed funding the Taliban.
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A former Michigan congressman accused of accepting stolen funds to lobby on behalf of a charity with alleged ties to terrorism pleaded guilty Wednesday to two charges including obstruction of justice…
He’s a conservative republican, isn’t he?
Yep. Thought so.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:13 amThank you Van, a real class act. Thanks for reminding them of how the last administration ruled. ALSO how these same complainers didn’t approve of it, now they want Obama to do the same.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:15 amTARP makes a profit. “According to a Keefe Bruyette & Woods report issued yesterday, the Capital Purchase Program (CPP), a major part of TARP, has generated a 10.3 percent return on investment from the 61 banks that have fully repaid the government.”
Oh no this will not do!!! only a 10.3 percent return (so far)
will it be with in the first 4 post of a troll this morning saying something bad about this.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:16 amRepugs (supported by the media) are screaming bloody murder wby Obama’s recess appointment of Berwick at Medicare.
No one is counting the number of “holds” still remaining on Obama after 18 months in office;
no one is counting the extraordinary number of recess apointments Dumbya made, even when Dems were too timid to raise a question. The boy-king just did it because he could.
Obama is being stymied at every turn by repugs and he could defy them and make a hundred recess appointments — he makes this one and they are whining, and the press gives them sympathy.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:16 amAnd finally: South Carolina Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Alvin Greene’s jobs plan: “They can make toys of me.”
This guy seems to be quite a few fruits short of a loop.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:19 amDon’t worry, you’ll hear from them again come December.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:19 amTARP makes a profit. “According to a Keefe Bruyette & Woods report issued yesterday, the Capital Purchase Program (CPP), a major part of TARP, has generated a 10.3 percent return on investment from the 61 banks that have fully repaid the government.”
Expect the attitude toward bailouts to improve and expect Bush apologists to take all the credit…….now that it appears to have worked.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:20 amAnd finally: South Carolina Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Alvin Greene’s jobs plan: “They can make toys of me.”
shouldn’t the cartoon come first?
July 8th, 2010 at 9:21 amWhen I heard this on the radio, I thought it was an Al Franken routine.
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VeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
Just another tactic for ‘Redistribution of Wealth’.
Yup. Your wealth into my pocket.
Don’t like it? Tough.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:26 amNOW has lauched a campaign to have Sen. Vitter expelled. Not only has the “old boys club” Senate allowed Vitter to remain in office after the prostitution scandal two years ago (only Democrats are punished) but Vitter kept his aide staff on the payroll who was wanted on a warrant dor DWI and altercation, and who threatened an ex-girlfriend with a knife attack.
Holier-than-thou Vitter and his supporters would like this to go away — he’s raising money for the GOP.
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Markos of the Daily Kos has been banned from MSNBC because he challenged Scarborough on the air about the dead intern in his office – the 27 year old was found dead under mysterious circumstances late one night, and Joe resigned his newly elected office within a few months to “spend more time with his family.” He was divorced after he was charged with infidelity by his first wife.
The media was focused 24/7 on Gary Condit who was hounded out of office on the Sandra Levy case, only to have been found completely innocent after his career was ruined. (He was a Democrat ofcourse.)
Kos was involved in a back-and-forth with Joe when he spit out a remark about a dead intern — Joe complained to mgt. and MSNBC sided with him.
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At the behest of the federal government, BP is also “readying a series of backup plans in case its current operations go awry.”
– – Now isn’t that a novel approach.
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Problem is: I’m not wealthy! Good Luck!
and seems like your not smart either!
as you back ones who will use you and drop you like a 100lb turd. and not a blossom kind.
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… i’m sorry, but, now especially, after reading that, it’s obvious from the start that alvin greene is mentally handicapped.
not?
it is such a shame to put him on this stage… so ROVE-ian…
July 8th, 2010 at 9:37 amVeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
Problem is: I’m not wealthy! Good Luck!
Doesn’t matter – every little bit helps.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:37 amDRxJ (Striving for a Troll Free Tomorrow, Today!) says:
I find it ironic that all the antagonists here label us as “America haters”, “terrorist supporters”, “Islamo-facials”, and such, YET, it is a CONservative who gets caught red handed funding the Taliban.
Well it was a conservative ( Ronnie Raygun ) who funded and trained Al Qaeda in Afghanistan originally.
It was well documented and published even in Solder of Fortune in the 80s. The group that was called “The Base” in English, in Arabic is Al Qaeda. I was in the military during that time and happened to read the mag from time to time.
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VeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
Another Progressive, Socialist, Communist Leftist in the White House.
Psst. You mean “black.”
July 8th, 2010 at 9:41 am@ 17 VeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
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Hang on to your wallets America! Your energy cost are about to skyrocket if this legislation passes.
Yeah, the CBO warns that by 2020, the average household will have to pony up a whole $180 per year (Heritage Found. (liars Inc.) first estimated over $3,000 but have adjusted their lie to about $1,700). Better start saving! Straw man slain!!!
Just another tactic for ‘Redistribution of Wealth’
And on the redistribution thingy, just puttin’ back what was stolen over the last 30 years but mostly the last 8 years.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:41 amUs common-folk are starting to learn from the victimizers!
LOL! Every President has had ‘Czars’. The troll is making a fool of himself.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:42 amWayne, there is so much evidence that the Raygun administration formed the foundation for so much that afflicts America today. The scandals, the corruption, the power-grabbing, the federal crimes — yet members of his administration are prominent now on Fox, and given credibility in the media, while repugs have practically beatified Ronnie as a Saint.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:43 amVeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
Problem is: I’m not wealthy!
Your not very intelligent either.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:43 amMichiganmitch says:
And on the redistribution thingy, just puttin’ back what was stolen over the last 30 years but mostly the last 8 years.
Us common-folk are starting to learn from the victimizers!
American Conservatives personify Stockholm Syndrome.
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VeteranFightingProgressives
what are you a veteran from?
once again placing your cult brainwashed head up one of your enablers or handlers asses and fight for air does NOT make you a Vet.
lair and voted down and out.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:45 amPilotshark Sponsored by Boeing`s Toxic cult troll Clean up Team says:
VeteranFightingProgressives
what are you a veteran from?
His local paintball and BB gun brigade.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:48 amI hate the phrase “redistribution of wealth” now. Besides all the conservative dumb-a**es like SOP and his other SN’s, before the recession we redistributed the wealth to the top 5%, and we significantly lowered the buying power of the average American, let alone the poor. That money which could have gone to education, repairing our highways, and rebuilding the levies, let alone helping the poor, instead went into the coffers of large industries and the wealthy private citizenship.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:49 am@30 VeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
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Obama Installs His Radical Medicare Czar
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Vetfightingthetruth
Don’t start the czar sh!t. You gotta know by now that Dubbya had more “tsars” and a Rethug actually adopted the term from the press. Anyway, if you keep it up you may get a case of poopy pants scaring yourslf so. If your are constipated and seek more immediate relief, just repeat the word Soros over and over until the jam breaks!
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A standard question to be asked of all candidates running for office in the US in 2010 should be “do you support the idea of unemployment benefits?” Then support the opposition if they answer “no.”
July 8th, 2010 at 9:49 amhttp://www.facebook.com/campaigncorner
I remember how TARP drove the libertarians/neocons crazy when Bush first set it up. I am actually surprised that, given Bush’s Midas touch-in-reverse, TARP would actually make a profit. But, of course, now that we have the tea bagger morons on the scene I’m sure that they’ll be sending emails in an attempt to rewrite history to say that Obama started TARP and taxpayers were left to foot the bill.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:49 amMarie says:
Wayne, there is so much evidence that the Raygun administration formed the foundation for so much that afflicts America today.
Most of America’s problems stem from actions conservatives.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:50 amFor example, overthrowing a democratically elected government and installing a ruthless dictator, for BP OIL, in Iran precipitated events leading to Iran having a crazy theocracy in power today. We have made our own messes.
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Military service: 1964 to 1968. Enlisted!
good deal
now what unit and where served?
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#42 -VeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
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“Military service: 1964 to 1968. Enlisted!”
July 8th, 2010 at 9:49 am
I served from 86-90, enlisted.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:54 amMarie says:
Markos of the Daily Kos has been banned from MSNBC …
– - The MSM is policing the discourse. Froomkin was fired for opposing torture a little too passionately; Weigel was forced out because his private emails revealed he was not acceptable to the partisan right; Frum is cut off from conservative blogads funding; Moulitsas is barred from MSNBC for criticizing Joe Scarborough; and Octavia Nasr is fired for offending the pro-Israel lobby over a tweet expressing sadness at the death of a Hezbollah leader.
Long live blogs.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:54 amVeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
The Evil in this Country today.
Republiscum? Conservatards? Teabaggers?
Oh, right. They’re all the same.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:55 amMarie says:
Markos of the Daily Kos has been banned from MSNBC because he challenged Scarborough on the air about the dead intern in his office…
If Scarby can’t take the heat, he better get off the teevee.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:55 am#46 – VeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
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“The Evil in this Country today.”
July 8th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Ah! You mean the right-whiners and pro-corpratists that hate individual freedoms!
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VeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
Michiganmitch,
Czars as in: Communists, Socialists Progressives. i.e. The Evil in this Country today.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:56 am–
The communists overthrew the czars. Get a history book. And socialism and Progressivism are not the same thing.
VeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
Military service: 1964 to 1968. Enlisted!
And stupid your entire life.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:57 amPilotshark,
now what unit and where served?
What does that have to do with anything here? None of your business!
Thanks that pretty much answers the question
you lairing coward C-YA!!!!1
July 8th, 2010 at 9:57 amThis is a great site after reading some of the articles for a while I decided to join Think Progress. I’m a progressive who has dislikes conservatives and Republicans and will do any and everything I can to keep them from ever ruining our country again.
I’m a newbie so please be patient with me while I learn my around.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:57 amVeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
What does that have to do with anything here? None of your business!
Oops!! Caught in a lie!
July 8th, 2010 at 9:58 amoops that s/b “dislikes conservatives and Republicans.”
July 8th, 2010 at 9:58 amZooey (Just Another Day in Paradise) says:
If Scarby can’t take the heat, he better get off the teevee.
– - There’s always the GOP golden parachute at Fox, unless he torched that bridge.
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Bambu
welcome
July 8th, 2010 at 9:59 amYeah, it’s hard to get wealthy at a nickel a post. This is yet another dumbass trailer park white trash hick, who supports causes which run counter to his own destitute interests in favor of the rich and powerful, whom he worships, and who despise him.
July 8th, 2010 at 9:59 amVeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
Sharkie,
Military service: 1964 to 1968. Enlisted!
Your MOS?
18B, US Army, 1982-1991
July 8th, 2010 at 9:59 amVeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
now what unit and where served?
None of your business!
Yup. Another conservatard/teabagger liar. Which paintball brigade were you in, sonny?
July 8th, 2010 at 10:00 am#46 – VeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
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“Czars as in: Communists…”
July 8th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Don’t forget to add:
As in the 31 Czar posts that Pres. GW Bush had in his administration!
Foreign aid czar – Administrator of the US Agency for International Development (USAID)
AIDS czar – Director of the Office of National AIDS Policy
bank bailout czar, Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) czar – United States Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Financial Stability, Senior Advisor to Secretary of the Treasury
bioethics czar – Advisor to the President, Chairman of The President’s Council on Bioethics
bird flu czar – Assistant Secretary of Health and Human Services, Advisor to the President for Public Health Emergency Preparedness
birth control czar – Deputy Assistant Secretary of Population Affairs, Department of Health and Human Services
budget czar – Director of the Office of Management and Budget
So much for “Czar” only belonging to communists. Unless you believe that Pres. ‘Dubya’ Bush was a commie!
July 8th, 2010 at 10:01 am#62 – VeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
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“Make a 180 degree turn and look in the mirror for whiners and a movement which wants to take away individual Freedoms.”
July 8th, 2010 at 9:59 am
So progressives want to take away the freedom to marry the person of your choice?
No, that’s all the right-whiners.
Methinks you should do a 180 and look the the whiners on your side. They whine oh-so-very much more than you claim do we!
July 8th, 2010 at 10:03 amVeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
What does that have to do with anything here? None of your business!
You are embarrassed by your service to your country? Or just a liar?
July 8th, 2010 at 10:03 amWelcome, bambu.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:03 amour lairing troll must have been with the
101st chickenhawk division 33 underwater basket weaving brigaded assign to the Zulu company of malcontents.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:05 amHello, bambu – welcome!
July 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am#64 – Wayne says:
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“18B, US Army, 1982-1991″
July 8th, 2010 at 9:59 am
I was 74D, stationed at the Pentagon, Command and Control Support Agency, adjunct to the Army Operations Center.
I had the privilege of operating the mainframes that were hard-wired across the world, the precursor to the internet. I chatted with operators stationed in Alaska, Korea, Japan, England, Germany . . . . Oh so many places!
July 8th, 2010 at 10:06 amWayne says:
You are embarrassed by your service to your country? Or just a liar?
My vote? Just a liar.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:06 amSpeaking of Joe Scarborough….has any new evidence been uncovered about the dead female staffer found in his office?
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Do Communist Czars imprison and then execute themselves and their families?
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Badmoon #50
July 8th, 2010 at 10:10 amSeeing them listed as you did is even more chilling — the msm is certainly not on our side — isn’t control of the media one of the tenets of fascism?
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“As in the 31 Czar posts that Pres. GW Bush had in his administration!”
July 8th, 2010 at 10:01 am
I have to correct myself. Pres. GW Bush had 35 Czars!
Pres. Obama only has 32 Czars.
I guess Bush is more of a communist than VFP believes that Obama is!
July 8th, 2010 at 10:12 amSTORM says:
“I hate white people. All of them. Every last iota of a cracker, I hate ‘em. You want freedom? You going to have to kill some crackers. You going to have to kill some of their babies”
July 8th, 2010 at 10:12 am‘TORM CUT AND PASTE! MAKE PROGRESSIVES CRY!
Hi bambu. This is a great site, despite being infested with really stupid right-wing trolls. There are some fantastic people here.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:13 amBambu
July 8th, 2010 at 10:15 amWelcome aboard — happy to have you — but watch your step around the piles of crap dropped here by the trolls.
If they attack you personally — we’ve got your back.
Hi STORMY! How’s life since you came out of the closet?
July 8th, 2010 at 10:15 amThree people suspected of having links to al Qaeda were arrested in Norway and Germany today. “They are suspected of committing terrorist crimes, period,” said Janne Kristiansen, the head of Norway’s Police Security Service. The suspects — a Uighur from China, an Iraqi, and an Uzbek — are said to “be linked to bomb plots in the US and UK.”
Good thing the Norwegians don’t have a Bushie in charge, they’d be invading Iraq, Uzbeckistan and China…
July 8th, 2010 at 10:16 amhttp://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Czars.pdf
Pres. Bush – 35 Czars.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:16 amPres. Obama – 32 Czars.
Welcome Bambu! Any relation to Bambi?
July 8th, 2010 at 10:16 amOh yes, you may have noticed that th trolls hate everone and everything, including themselves, and they are extremely sensitive. It’s a weird combination of personality traits that seem to come from self loathing.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:17 amshoe (formerly shoeless, before the beach got covered with oil) says:
July 8th, 2010 at 10:17 amDo Communist Czars imprison and then execute themselves and their families?
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Haha. I guess the closest thing to a communist czar would be a neo-conservative considering neo-conservatism started with Trotsky. Of course the neo-conservatives of today are a lot different than the ones that followed Leon Trotsky.
Why would I care if my energy costs were to rise a bit?
July 8th, 2010 at 10:18 amThe Congressional Budget Office has found that the Senate’s climate change legislation would reduce the deficit by $19 billion over the next decade if enacted.
So, this is the fiscally sound thing to do. Now let’s boil the Republicans from now till November in this stew.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:18 amVeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
bambu,
Get ready for some vile, profane and vulgar language on this site. Good Luck!
Ahhh, memories.
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I read somewhere that cap and trade would raise the average cost of electricity to the consumer by $1 per month. Those are some skyrocketing costs.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:22 am@93 n 94
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This “redistribution of wealth” meme always baffles me. Things are much the way they are because of the upward mobility of wealth over the last 8 and 30 years. Aggregate demand has declined to a dangerous level. The middle and lower class represent the lion’s share of aggregate demand and in our type of economy, you would expect those at the top to recognize upon whose shoulders they stand. Apparently the transnats.have moved on from the U.S.and are about exploiting foreign labor markets. When they have been exhausted, what is next, colonizing planets? If conservatives get their way, less than 1/2 of one percent will control all the wealth and unless you are in that group (and their is no room at the top)you loose! If you are not one of the top 1/2 of one per cent, why would you vote for your own subjagation and against your own interests? That level of racism is almost impossible to understand!
July 8th, 2010 at 10:24 amThis fool votes for Republicans so they can cut off his unemployment, and he’s worried about paying $1 more per month for electricity.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:25 amGiggle at the Absurd. Make asses of the Inferior
July 8th, 2010 at 10:25 amAll the dudes with doctorates that I know make mommy jokes. It is sort of an Ive League sort of thing….
July 8th, 2010 at 10:26 am@95 VeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
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The Congressional Budget Office has found that the Senate’s climate change legislation would reduce the deficit by $19 billion over the next decade if enacted.
Believe this and I have a couple of bridges for sale, Cheap
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What, Palin’s Bridge to nowhere that she lied about and was for before she was against!
or Ivy. Either way it is sort of silly and pointless but then again so is a desire to play cyber pest…
July 8th, 2010 at 10:27 amStupidity. That is the only possible answer.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:28 amVeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
Ok, let’s see…you claim you were in the military from ‘64 to ‘68, but you couldn’t hack it so you got out.
That’s go with the fantasy that you joined up when you were 18, which means you were born in about 1946. Now, in 2010, you’re about 64 years old.
Even you have enough self-awareness to know that your vile hateful nature will cause you to stroke out before you’re 65, so naturally you took the reduced benefit at 62 — all of which means you’re on SS and possibly Medicare or Medicaid.
Progressives made it possible for you to have a retirement in which you don’t have to worry about living under a bridge, cuz lawd knows your family won’t let you move in with them.
You’re welcome.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:28 amYou’d care about it if you had lost your job, or pay reduced, or on a fixed income.
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July 8th, 2010 at 10:29 amWhich is exactly why a made sure to have careers in which I need not worry. However if you wanna play hypotheticals well I still wouldn’t care. I would just continue to live simply and do the right thing for others and the planet. It really isn’t that hard to do….
The econometricians at the CBO know a shitpot more about cost/benefit projections than any troll around here.
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So, SAP, what duty stations did you serve at, from 64 – 68?
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You vote my posts down because you can’t handle the truth!
Day 80, and Chairman O is finally sucking the oil up with a straw.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:35 am—
I sort of like how these two sentences come back to back. It is amusing in a surreal sort of way…
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Michiganmitch,
Czars as in: Communists, Socialists Progressives. i.e. The Evil in this Country today
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You idiot, czars were overthrown by the Reds, ergo Obama’s czars must be part of the anti-communist establihment. I know ignorance is not in short supply among Cons but at least get your strawman history straight! A message to you and other Teatards, sometimes scary words are not so scary once you know what they mean.
I have never been hired or had a job or career from a poor person, a welfare recipient, a failing business/corporation or some other on the government dole.
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July 8th, 2010 at 10:39 amSo that stuff about being a Vet is complete crap as well?
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motomark says:
Yeah…how are those ponzi schemes/scams working out for America?
Pretty fcuking well, dummy. Just ask anyone over 65 — especially the teabaggers.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:42 amDemocrat Soldier says:
I was 74D, stationed at the Pentagon, Command and Control Support Agency, adjunct to the Army Operations Center.
Was stationed at Bragg. I got to travel to exotic places like Haiti, Nicaragua, Iraq and a few other places I’m not supposed talk about. =)
July 8th, 2010 at 10:43 amI got my medical discharge after Desert Storm.
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I’m thinking Shell, Texaco, and Mobile.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:46 amGo preach the ‘truth’ at your nearest high traffic pedestrian crosswalk, mark.
Go get in their face… please report back, I’d like to hear how it goes.
There seems to be a bus stop missing their lunatic.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:47 amGrebie’s eldest is embarassed by him….
July 8th, 2010 at 10:48 ammotomouth
Voted down
and always out
LOL>>>waaaa waaaa waaa blaaa blaaa blaaa
July 8th, 2010 at 10:48 amgoes the dimwitted cult troll spam bot!!!!!!!!
and can you blame him?
July 8th, 2010 at 10:48 amPuh-leaze Zooey!
These mucking foronic antagonists have as much military experience as I have exploring quantum physics!
NONE!
July 8th, 2010 at 10:50 am@146 VeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
Profitable companies big/small hire and pay people. Punish them and you take away a revenue source Dumbass!
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Methinks you are the dumbass. Kill the customer by collectively exploiting him as an employee and as a citizen (like through greed, making big messes) you eventually kill yourself. It is a symbiotic relationship of sorts. That is the way a successful economy works. Imbalance spawns problems like we face today and more cause and no cure will serve to exacerbate the situation.
July 8th, 2010 at 10:51 am@121
Trolls link to sites like The Washington Examiner and The People’s Cube, then wonder why we don’t take them seriously.
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“Off to work” translation:
“I’ve just had my ass handed to me from several posters here, and have absolutely no facts or intelligence to help me respond, so I quit!”
July 8th, 2010 at 10:58 amVeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP @112
Your italics are showing again, Robo-FakeJake.
Didn’t you as Jake claim you were a Korean Veteran, and get caught plagiarizing a real Veteran’s post from a Veteran’s blog?
Lying scumbag.
July 8th, 2010 at 11:00 amThe ridiculous thing about the ‘redistribution of wealth’ meme of the rabid conservatives is that capitalism, at its core, is designed to redistribute wealth. In cases with ‘perfect markets’, capitalism is intended to redistribute wealth to the ‘most efficient producers’. THE PROBLEM IS ‘perfect markets’ don’t exist, and as markets get increasingly ‘imperfect’, capitalism switches from redistributing wealth to the most efficient and instead funnels wealth to the economically powerful. Thus, since most all markets are inefficient, our economy as a whole acts as a huge engine to concentrate wealth among the wealthy.
The other misrepresentation of the conservatives’ meme is the idea that progressive taxes are a redistribution of wealth. This is false. Taxes don’t move people from riches to poverty. Social programs don’t move people from destitution to luxury. Taxes are merely a way of paying for public services which benefit everyone. While some taxes fall disproportionally upon the wealthy, this is FAIR since the wealthy benefit disproportionally from government. An individual will drive their car over a small proportion of interstate highways; the owner of a trucking company will drive over a substantially larger proportion. The police protect my home but they protect all seven of McCain’s mansions. The military protects me from invasion, but also protects the nation’s economic interests to a far greater extent. “Flat Taxes” and “Welfare Queens” are ploys of the rich to evade paying their fair share. The rich who wish to live in our society can pay their taxes; those who wish to avoid taxes may choose a different society (Somalia) where they may pay private contractors for all their services.
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Off to work, so I can help pay for dbadass and Zooey’s power bills…
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Then stay at home since she and I all all set. Weren’t you saying some goofy shit about facts earlier? You don’t even care to pretend to be consistant do you? Now so far which of your taxes have gone up?
fake ass pussy posers amuse me
Shit on the Lame. Bust a broken bottle around the head and neck of the Fake….
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This makes no sense.
July 8th, 2010 at 11:09 am—
and excessive resultful selfish consumption does?
wasteful not resultful
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Poor people use way more govt. services tool.
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Why should this bother me? I have more than I need already.
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“Czars as in: Communists”
July 8th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Like Pres. Bush, right? You know, the man who had MORE Czars than Pres. Obama, right?
Funny how some people ignore their own posts when they don’t support their talking-points.
Then again, that’s happened to me in the past, so I suppose that you can be excused for running from your own post.
July 8th, 2010 at 11:18 amVeteranFightingProgressives -formerly SAP says:
This makes no sense.
Considering your low intelligence level, I would be surprised if you understood anything above rudimentary grunts and whistles, Fake.
Go play with your sockpuppets and know you are not fooling anyone with your troll games.
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mgparrish (brought to you by Tea Party Patriots) says:
Class warfare is a lie.
Too funny. You contradicted that assertion in the same comment:
Don’t suppose the property taxes on those 7 mansions pays for a lot more cops than your home do ya?
Dummy.
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The Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956 appropriated $25 billion to create the interstate highway system. It is maintained through some ‘use’ taxes and fees, but its creation came from the normal federal budget.
Back in 1956 the top marginal tax rate was 91%.
July 8th, 2010 at 11:37 amAh ok, mg. So you have ODS… correct?
Thanks for letting the cat out of the bag. I never would have thunk it from the content and tone of your posts.
What’s w/ you guys? Cheezus.
July 8th, 2010 at 11:39 amThey are always wrong and cannot admit it. So, their only alternative is to forget it and move on to the next right-wing talking point.
July 8th, 2010 at 11:57 amBullshit. The wealthy not only have more at stake when it comes to protecting property (police) and get better and quicker response when they have need of such services, they also are afforded much easier access to government representatives and services than the average citizen, and receive far more beneficial treatment in the judicial system than those without resources.
I’d say they get what they pay for and then some.
July 8th, 2010 at 12:02 pmTP does a good job of highlighting racial issues, but most of the issues they cover are incidents of racism directed against minorities.
Fox is now pursuing the story of voter intimidation in Philadelphia and why the case was dismissed by the justice department.
Here is view of Malik Shabazz, chairman of the New Black Panther Party, at the heart of the voter intimidation case:
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/07/new-black-panther-leader-shabezz-blames-fox-news-for-voter-intimidation-scandal/
I agree with him that Fox has many partisan motives to pursue this story. I disagree with him, in that I think it is important for Fox to pursue the story. I think, if the voter intimidation issue is not highlighted and resolved, it will be more likely the situation will get worse.
I also think TP should pursue the story. Shabazz and the New Black Panthers are as obvious racists as members of the KKK. It would be a no-brainer for TP to run a thread highlighting the New Black Panthers as racists. If for no other reason, to make clear and credible that their pursuit of racism stories are not simply partisan.
Additionally, I imagine the DOJ had justifiable reasons to dismiss the case. That side of the story needs to get out.
Allowing Fox to have a monopoly on the story, because others don’t want to consider the racial aspects, is giving Fox an unmolested platform to suggest the DOJ is making partisan judgements.
July 8th, 2010 at 12:22 pmOh, good, b-cup has his teeth into a good “reverse racsim” story.
We know those are his favorite chew toys.
Don’t tell him that this one is moldy and rotted from the inside. Let him find out for himself.
July 8th, 2010 at 12:34 pmHere’s the trouble with the New Black Panthers. They’re obvious racists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2NGWN30CNs
And because they engaged in voter intimidation that resulted in case sent to the DOJ and dismissed – there is a connection Obama opponents can make from the New Black Panthers to the administration. You can see it being made at the end of that video.
Progressives need to separate themselves from the New Black Panthers by actively denouncing them as racists. (Much like it was/is the responsibility of tea partiers to denounce the racists that show up at their events).
And the issue is not just with the one member. It’s institutional within the organization. The chairman featured in the link of my previous post is very eloquent in his denunciation of Fox, but he’s just as racist as his lieutenant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tol0gdUzpPk
At time 2:30, he starts praising the efforts of the Reverend Nat Turner for his efforts of ‘cutting white folks and killing white folks’.
This is a obvious position that progressives need to take to maintain credibility on the race issue.
July 8th, 2010 at 12:42 pmralph. The New Black Panthers aren’t racists? Voter intimidation shouldn’t be rejected?
Highlighting the efforts of someone that wants to start an all-white basketball league is more important than exposing a national organization that advocates ‘killing crackers’ and ‘killing white babies’?
http://ironicsurrealism.blogivists.com/2010/07/06/new-black-panther-king-samir-shabazz-youre-going-to-have-to-kill-some-crackers-youre-going-to-have-to-kill-their-babies-video-transcript/
You and TP can ignore it. If you do, I just think it diminishes the credibility of your other claims of racism.
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b-cup, when did I say either of those things?
Please, point to some evidence that I hold either of the positions with which you attempt to saddle me. I look forward with great eagerness.
July 8th, 2010 at 12:54 pmb-cup, we all know that stories about blacks being racist really floats your boat, but would it help to settle your nerves regarding this “story” about the DoJ deciding against pursuing charges, if. say the DoJ also decided not to pursue charges against, let’s just say, a white supremecist brandishing a firearm before a polling place?
Would that ease your mind about any racial element to the decision, that perhaps there are valid legal and procedural reasons to drop the respective cases? Hypothetically speaking, of course.
July 8th, 2010 at 12:58 pmralph. you haven’t said any of those things. You haven’t commented on the New Black Panthers at all.
That’s the point.
Explain this to me:
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/20/white-basketball/
TP feels compelled to alert the world that someone wants to start an all white basketball league, but a national organization that advocates ‘killing crackers’ and ‘killing white babies’ doesn’t rate a mention?
Seriously?
And when I bring it up, all you have to offer is ridicule?
Okay. I’ll just go back to my post. You can ignore my take. But, why should anyone take the other stories that pop up here about white racism, when you not interested in even a comment about the New Black Panthers/
The charges of racism here, to include yours, appear only motivated by partisanship.
July 8th, 2010 at 1:05 pmb-cup, what is the problem? Do you find it difficult being a white man in a society dominated by white men?
July 8th, 2010 at 1:09 pmAnd don’t just think the New Black Panthers are some insignificant fringe group. Shabazz just chaired a Black Power convention in Atlanta this past May. The guest list is filled with mainstream Black artists, business leaders, and a former Congresswoman:
http://issueswire.com/releases/2010/05/prweb4040824.htm
Sorry. But you’re wrong on this.
July 8th, 2010 at 1:09 pmshoe. what about you?
What seems like a more important story?
A white guy trying to set up an all white basketball league or a national organization that advocates ‘killing crackers’ and ‘killing white babies’?
A national organization that enjoys the ear of mainstream black leaders to include a former congresswoman.
No, I don’t have a problem.
July 8th, 2010 at 1:12 pmTrue so far.
Oops, you’ve gone off the rails already, b-cup. These charges stem from a Faux News video report in which the men in question were repeatedly asked about their “weapons” in front of a polling location in a predominantly black section of Philadelphia. Not a single voter filed a complaint regarding the “incident”.
… for lack of evidence
Well, jeez, b-cup, Obama opponents can make a connection from Hitler to the administration, and they do it all the time. “Connections” made by Obama opponents are kind of devalued by this time, aren’t they? Although, I guess as long as they can entice folks like you — you know… “skeptics” — into taking them seriously, they’re not devalued enough yet.
July 8th, 2010 at 1:12 pmOh, so the point is that, since I haven’t said any of those things, and in fact haven’t commented on the NBP at all, you felt the need to challenge me to disavow them and their tactics?
Gotcha.
You’re a dick, frankly.
July 8th, 2010 at 1:14 pmralph. I miss plenty of things myself. But, I did say this back at #153:
The thrust of my gripe is not the DOJ, it’s the progressive apathy to groups like the New Black Panthers.
Do me a solid and just weigh in on this.
The New Black Panthers are at least as racist as today’s KKK. Mainstream Blacks shouldn’t be attending Shabazz Black Power events. And TP and other progressives should actively denounce the group and it’s rhetoric as racist.
July 8th, 2010 at 1:17 pmb-cup what happened to cause you to fear the black man so much that you obsess over any story you can find which has any relation to what you term black racism (which is weird, because racism is generally considered to be institutional discrimination).
Why do you live in abject terror of African Americans? Does your fear of dark skinned people keep you awake at night?
July 8th, 2010 at 1:18 pmralph. I don’t think you’re a dick. I just think you are blinded by partisanship.
It’s easy. I’ll help you:
Later.
July 8th, 2010 at 1:20 pmshoe. I dig black people. I think President Obama is cool. I’ve said it dozens of times here.
You trying to implicate me as a racist doesn’t void the question.
Why aren’t you willing to weigh in on the New Black Panthers?
July 8th, 2010 at 1:23 pmralph. bear with me and consider this clip.
I can’t discern the lawyers name, but he’s established as a liberal (to me, he’s credible as not a conservative partisan – you decide for yourself):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BemSmTNDxU
This guy was there. He doesn’t come off as a partisan. He emphatically believed it was voter intimidation. And should have been prosecuted.
What do you think?
July 8th, 2010 at 1:30 pmLooked at it again. the lawyer is Bartle Bull, a civil rights attorney.
July 8th, 2010 at 1:32 pmcrickets chirping.
July 8th, 2010 at 1:56 pmAnyone who doesn’t condemn the voter intimidation committed by the Black Panthers is clearly a racist.
July 8th, 2010 at 2:10 pmQuestionEverything. Not racist, but guilty of turning a blind eye to bigotry for political expedience.
July 8th, 2010 at 2:32 pmLet’s see…
In his May 14 testimony before the Commission on Civil Rights, Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez explained that the Bush administration’s Justice Department “determined that the facts did not constitute a prosecutable violation of the criminal statutes”but did “file a civil action on January 7th, 2009.”
Obama took office two weeks later. Thus, the BUSH administration determined that the facts did not constitute a prosecutable violation of the criminal statutes,
Tough to pin that one on Obama, no?
In addition, In an April 23 hearing on the DOJ’s decision in the case, Civil Rights Commissioner Arlan Melendez stated that “no citizen has even alleged that he or she was intimidated from voting,” which “was clear to the Justice Department last spring, which is why they took the course of action that they did.”
And one more interesting piece: DOJ did not pursue allegations that Minutemen intimidated Hispanic voters with a gun in 2006. Perez testified that in 2006, the Justice Department “declined to bring any action for alleged voter intimidation” “when three well-known anti-immigrant advocates affiliated with the Minutemen, one of whom was carrying a gun, allegedly intimidated Latino voters at a polling place
We’ve been over this, b-cup. Black racism is just as abhorrent as white racism. But in a culture where whites dominate (and no, the fact that we have a black president does not make things all equal) white racism is more dangerous.
Voter intimidation is corrosive to our political process no matter where or when it occurs. But let’s face it; a black man accused of intmidating voters in a predominantly black precinct falls somewhat short of a white man with a 9mm strapped to his chest in a hispanic neighborhood’s polling place, especially when no citizen filed a complaint against the black man.
What I’m reacting to, b-cup, is not so much this non-story manufactured or at least hyped by Faux News as it is your well-established penchant for embracing stories of blacks exhibiting racism as if they were equivalent to those in the power structure seeking to oppress minorities.
You said it yourself, this story is an opportunity for Obama’s enemies to try to manufacture a “connection” between the President and the New Black panthers, ebven though none actually exists.
All you’re doing is helping fuel that effort. Congratulations.
July 8th, 2010 at 2:44 pmralph. I don’t doubt the DOJ has a legitimate reason to dismiss the case. I said that earlier. (Although, the question is legitimate, if you find the civil rights lawyer credible).
I have listened to your argument that white racism is different than black racism due to the power imbalance (I have suggested that difference is becoming less distinct as (thankfully) the power imbalance is diminishing. (We do have a Black President, Attorney General, etc. BTW).
So, I see what you are saying. All I’m asking for is to give some serious consideration to this:
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/20/white-basketball/
TP though it was significant enough to highlight a white guy trying to form an all white basketball league. I don’t have a problem with that. It’s regressive, unnecessary and wrongheaded for anyone to do that.
But, even when you consider the very real power imbalance; don’t you believe that the New Black Panthers (a national organization that does get support from mainstream black leaders) advocating ‘killing crackers’ and ‘killing white babies’ would at least rise to the significance of the racial issue of the all white basketball league? And deserve it’s own thread?
It seems obvious to me. It seems reasonable to me. But, nobody here is interested in commenting on it.
It leaves the impression that the community here only wants to talk about politically expedient examples of racism.
July 8th, 2010 at 2:59 pmYou’re awfully concerned about “impressions”, aren’t ya, b-cup?
Realities, not so much.
As far as your frequently-repeated argument that “the power imbalance is diminishing”, that statement, strictly read, cannot be denied. The power imbalance IS diminshing, partly because of efforts to confront racist attitudes among the (still dominant power structure).
The difference between us is, you seem to think that this this imbalance has diminished enough to equalize things and I think it just shows progress that needs to be continued.
For some reason you have a real mental block about power relationships and how they change perceptions and realities. I’ve seen it dozens of times before, on dozens of threads. Maybe it’s your natural instinct to see equivalencies that aren’t there.
Oh, and as for the article about the guy who wanted to to start a “whites only” basketball league, I don’t think very many here took it seriously as a danger of any kind. it was mostly just an illustration of the obsession with race that inflicts a certain segment of our society, and an example of the hypocrisy of folks who otherwise assail the concept of “affirmative action” yet are quite willing to indulge in it when it benefits their own subgroup.
Not surprised you missed that.
July 8th, 2010 at 3:23 pmThe effort is being fueled by progressive recalcitrance to forcefully denounce the New Black Panthers.
It’s very similar to Tea Partiers ignoring the racists that showed up to their rallies. Here’s how I weighed in on that:
I think progressives are in a similar predicament with the New Black Panthers (who have lined up against Fox and been relieved by Holder’s DOJ – understandably or not).
If people start to believe there’s a connection, it’s not because of Fox. It will be due to the void created by the absence of progressive repudiation of a clearly racist organization.
July 8th, 2010 at 3:27 pmralph. Let me take a different tact.
Here’s a national organization in the U.S. that gets some mainstream support – that is advocating the killing of a particular racial group along with their babies.
Explain to me why you feel something like that doesn’t deserve a thread. Why something like that doesn’t really deserve comment?
July 8th, 2010 at 3:32 pmExplain to me why you feel something like that doesn’t deserve a thread. Why something like that doesn’t really deserve comment?
Let me try… you’ve brought it up NUMEROUS times, as has Fox News. ThinkProgress is under no obligation to highlight the stories you think deserve attention, just as Fox is under no obligation to cater to my interests.
July 8th, 2010 at 3:50 pmAs to this PARTICULAR story, there doesn’t seem to be much there, sorry.
Seeing as the SPLC and many original Black Panthers have denounced this group I’m not sure your attempt to show that the left hasn’t denounced them has legs, either…
belaccifer lacca. Shabazz held a Black Power conference this past May that attracted many mainstream black leaders. He, and the group he chairs, the New Black Panthers are extremely racist and advocate violence and murder against white people.
You’re right. TP doesn’t have any obligation to cover it, but it leads to the impression that TP is only interested in politically expedient racism.
TP covers racism. If a national organization advocating violence and murder against white people doesn’t have ‘legs’, why should anyone consider the other stories about race that get posted here credibly?
Are you saying that you support the practice of only highlighting racism when it’s perpetrated by whites against minorities?
And that all-white basketball leagues, watermelon slurs, black kids being shut out of the country club pool are all relevant; but an organized national effort that has the ear of mainstream black America advocating murder and violence against white people; does not?
I can honestly say I don’t get that.
July 8th, 2010 at 4:06 pmbel. I think I misunderstood you point about legs.
you may be right that progressives elsewhere have weighed in about the Black Panthers. But, we’ve been talking about it for close to 4 hours here and there isn’t much interest in repudiation of the group.
I brought up Shabazz and the New Black Panthers over a month ago:
Very few here had any desire to consider it then. They still have no desire.
Without that desire to consider all racism, credibility on the issue here will continue to wane.
July 8th, 2010 at 4:17 pmVery few here had any desire to consider it then. They still have no desire.
Considered. Condemned in some cases, rejected in others.
Without that desire to consider all racism, credibility on the issue here will continue to wane.
Refusal to confront the nonsensical false equivalence of your post continues to corrupt your credibility.
July 8th, 2010 at 4:43 pmWhen law enforcement proves time and time again to be the first line and best defense against terrorism, then WHY THE FCUK ARE 90,000+ AMERICAN TROOPS IN THE MIDDLE EAST????
July 8th, 2010 at 5:01 pmLater.
July 8th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
And you dare b*tch and bemoan OTHER’S credibility?
Get a friggin’ clue dumba$s.
July 8th, 2010 at 5:04 pmWHY THE FCUK ARE 90,000+ AMERICAN TROOPS IN THE MIDDLE EAST????
(I love my own rhetoric):
July 8th, 2010 at 5:06 pmAnswer: See 1984 by George Orwell
bel.
here’s my false equivalency:
TP generates threads about a mayor sending out an email joke about watermelon’s growing on the White House Lawn.
They generate threads about a guy trying to form an all-white basketball league.
And a thread about a hick bar owner calling Obama a ‘half-breed’.
http://thinkprogress.org/?p=64120
That’s all cool.
But, a national organization with some mainstream patronage, that’s become a national story due to charges of voter intimidation in the past election; advocates ‘killing white people’ and ‘killing white babies’ and it’s irrelevant to the community here?
Congratulations on stumbling on ralph’s technique of crying false equivalency whenever there is no good retort – but you might as well just admit you don’t have a good answer (better yet, agree with me). I’ve done it plenty of times.
This is simple. TP comments on racism. They do a good job of it. The New Black Panthers are a national topic of discussion due to the voter intimidation case. They are a racist organization. To maintain their credibility, TP should step up and actively denounce the New Black Panthers.
What is so difficult about that?
July 8th, 2010 at 5:12 pm#148 – mgparrish (brought to you by Tea Party Patriots) says:
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“Czars are not the problem, it the wacko Czars Maobama appointed that are the problem.”
July 8th, 2010 at 11:32 am
VPF doesn’t see it that way, he thinks ALL czars are communist. Therefor, Pres. Bush who had more czars than Pres. Obama is a bigger communist.
What about all the whacko czars from the Bush administration? Care to comment on them?
July 8th, 2010 at 5:19 pmCongratulations on stumbling on ralph’s technique of crying false equivalency whenever there is no good retort – but you might as well just admit you don’t have a good answer
I did have a good answer… you just didn’t want to hear it.
July 8th, 2010 at 6:59 pmLet me repeat it:
Let me try… you’ve brought it up NUMEROUS times, as has Fox News. ThinkProgress is under no obligation to highlight the stories you think deserve attention, just as Fox is under no obligation to cater to my interests.
As to this PARTICULAR story, there doesn’t seem to be much there, sorry.
Seeing as the SPLC and many original Black Panthers have denounced this group I’m not sure your attempt to show that the left hasn’t denounced them has legs, either…
bel.
If you’re saying you consider ThinkProgress as objective as Fox News, I guess I can’t really argue.
I guess I thought I was engaging a community that was trying to strive for objectivity or truth.
ThinkProgress, not ThinkPartisan.
I was mistaken.
July 8th, 2010 at 7:19 pmbackup says:
Nonsense, backup… I’m perfectly willing to condemn the NPP’s.
I think this particular story you want highlighted is way, way overblown…
I think you know that.
I think you also know that ThinkProgress has an agenda. That’s why they do it.
Your ’shock’ that they might not highlight every story the right wants them to reminds me of Captain Renault in Casablanca…
Captain Renault: I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
I ain’t buying, sorry.
July 8th, 2010 at 7:34 pmAnd belaccifer lacca. I looked for it and couldn’t find it above.
It’s an open thread. I brought it up.
Do you support or condemn the New Black Panther sentiment (kill white people, white babies)?
And do you agree that it’s unacceptable racism?
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