Is the BP Gusher Unstoppable?

Sharon Astyk at ScienceBlogs points the way to a seriously scary comment thread at The Oil Drum, a sounding board for, among others, many petroleum geologists and oil professionals. The comment in question is from a seemingly very knowledgable "dougr." Some of it follows verbatim below. I've highlighted the parts that frightened me the most and left me wondering: Is this why Obama's praying?
You can read the comment in its entirety here, complete with useful links, as well as all the comments (some of which dissent from dougr's claims) made in response. Sharon notes, to the inevitable question of why pass along an anonymous comment: "This one passes my smell test, which is usually pretty good - that doesn't mean I claim commenter Doug R is right - it means I think his information is interesting enough to be worth exposing to a wider audience for clarification or correction." As the Oil Drum staff explains to its own readers regarding this post: "Were the US government and BP more forthcoming with information and details, the situation would not be giving rise to so much speculation about what is actually going on in the Gulf. This should be run more like Mission Control at NASA than an exclusive country club function--it is a public matter--transparency, now!" Amen. Meanwhile, judge for yourself:
"All the actions and few tid bits of information all lead to one inescapable conclusion. The well pipes below the sea floor are broken and leaking. Now you have some real data of how BP's actions are evidence of that, as well as some murky statement from "BP officials" confirming the same.
"To those of us outside the real inside loop, yet still fairly knowledgeable, [the failure of Top Kill] was a major confirmation of what many feared. That the system below the sea floor has serious failures of varying magnitude in the complicated chain, and it is breaking down and it will continue to.
"What does this mean?
"It means they will never cap the gusher after the wellhead. They cannot...the more they try and restrict the oil gushing out the bop?...the more it will transfer to the leaks below. Just like a leaky garden hose with a nozzle on it. When you open up the nozzle?...it doesn't leak so bad, you close the nozzle?...it leaks real bad, same dynamics. It is why they sawed the riser off...or tried to anyway...but they clipped it off, to relieve pressure on the leaks "down hole". I'm sure there was a bit of panic time after they crimp/pinched off the large riser pipe and the Diamond wire saw got stuck and failed...because that crimp diverted pressure and flow to the rupture down below.
"Contrary to what most of us would think as logical to stop the oil mess, actually opening up the gushing well and making it gush more became direction BP took after confirming that there was a leak. In fact if you note their actions, that should become clear. They have shifted from stopping or restricting the gusher to opening it up and catching it. This only makes sense if they want to relieve pressure at the leak hidden down below the seabed.....and that sort of leak is one of the most dangerous and potentially damaging kind of leak there could be. It is also inaccessible which compounds our problems. There is no way to stop that leak from above, all they can do is relieve the pressure on it and the only way to do that right now is to open up the nozzle above and gush more oil into the gulf and hopefully catch it, which they have done, they just neglected to tell us why, gee thanks.
"A down hole leak is dangerous and damaging for several reasons. There will be erosion throughout the entire beat up, beat on and beat down remainder of the "system" including that inaccessible leak. The same erosion I spoke about in the first post is still present and has never stopped, cannot be stopped, is impossible to stop and will always be present in and acting on anything that is left which has crude oil "Product" rushing through it. There are abrasives still present, swirling flow will create hot spots of wear and this erosion is relentless and will always be present until eventually it wears away enough material to break it's way out. It will slowly eat the bop away especially at the now pinched off riser head and it will flow more and more. Perhaps BP can outrun or keep up with that out flow with various suckage methods for a period of time, but eventually the well will win that race, just how long that race will be?...no one really knows....However now?...there are other problems that a down hole leak will and must produce that will compound this already bad situation.
"This down hole leak will undermine the foundation of the seabed in and around the well area. It also weakens the only thing holding up the massive Blow Out Preventer's immense bulk of 450 tons. In fact?...we are beginning to the results of the well's total integrity beginning to fail due to the undermining being caused by the leaking well bore.
"The first layer of the sea floor in the gulf is mostly lose material of sand and silt. It doesn't hold up anything and isn't meant to, what holds the entire subsea system of the Bop in place is the well itself... The well's piping in comparison is actually very much smaller than the Blow Out Preventer and strong as it may be, it relies on some support from the seabed to function and not literally fall over...and it is now showing signs of doing just that....falling over...
"What is likely to happen now?
"Well...none of what is likely to happen is good, in fact...it's about as bad as it gets. I am convinced the erosion and compromising of the entire system is accelerating and attacking more key structural areas of the well, the blow out preventer and surrounding strata holding it all up and together. This is evidenced by the tilt of the blow out preventer and the erosion which has exposed the well head connection. What eventually will happen is that the blow out preventer will literally tip over if they do not run supports to it as the currents push on it. I suspect they will run those supports as cables tied to anchors very soon, if they don't, they are inviting disaster that much sooner.
"Eventually even that will be futile as the well casings cannot support the weight of the massive system above with out the cement bond to the earth and that bond is being eroded away. When enough is eroded away the casings will buckle and the BOP will collapse the well. If and when you begin to see oil and gas coming up around the well area from under the BOP? or the area around the well head connection and casing sinking more and more rapidly? ...it won't be too long after that the entire system fails. BP must be aware of this, they are mapping the sea floor sonically and that is not a mere exercise. Our Gov't must be well aware too, they just are not telling us.
"All of these things lead to only one place, a fully wide open well bore directly to the oil deposit...after that, it goes into the realm of "the worst things you can think of" The well may come completely apart as the inner liners fail. There is still a very long drill string in the well, that could literally come flying out...as I said...all the worst things you can think of are a possibility, but the very least damaging outcome as bad as it is, is that we are stuck with a wide open gusher blowing out 150,000 barrels a day of raw oil or more. There isn't any "cap dome" or any other suck fixer device on earth that exists or could be built that will stop it from gushing out and doing more and more damage to the gulf. While at the same time also doing more damage to the well, making the chance of halting it with a kill from the bottom up less and less likely to work, which as it stands now?....is the only real chance we have left to stop it all.
"It's a race now...a race to drill the relief wells and take our last chance at killing this monster before the whole weakened, wore out, blown out, leaking and failing system gives up it's last gasp in a horrific crescendo.
"We are not even 2 months into it, barely half way by even optimistic estimates. The damage done by the leaked oil now is virtually immeasurable already and it will not get better, it can only get worse. No matter how much they can collect, there will still be thousands and thousands of gallons leaking out every minute, every hour of every day. We have 2 months left before the relief wells are even near in position and set up to take a kill shot and that is being optimistic as I said.
"Over the next 2 months the mechanical situation also cannot improve, it can only get worse, getting better is an impossibility. While they may make some gains on collecting the leaked oil, the structural situation cannot heal itself. It will continue to erode and flow out more oil and eventually the inevitable collapse which cannot be stopped will happen. It is only a simple matter of who can "get there first"...us or the well."
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The Oil Drum commentors
The most trustworthy sources on The Oil Drum are ROCKMAN, real name unknown, but he is definitely a professional drilling rig operator, and consulting engineer Alan Drake.
Drake, a New Orleans resident and Katrina evacuee, is very well recognized, respected within The Oil Drum, and is working directly on this problem at a high level.
Drake has repeatedly expressed concerns that Beach Polluters are again cutting corners by only drilling two relief wells. Success rates in that type of rock formation are only around 60% per well. Drilling just two means that statistically there is a one in six chance of total failure and that they'll have to restart the process two months from now, spending an additional three months before the next shot at blocking the blown out well at its base.
You can easily find a phone number for me by looking at my Twitter profile and I'm happy to introduce reporters to quality sources on this matter.
thanks Stranded Wind! one of
thanks Stranded Wind! one of us will be in touch...
Over at the oil drum regular
Over at the oil drum regular commenter wrb adds illiuminating detail:
What DougR seems to be hinting at here- but wasn't able to say outright of course- is that the well may be in communication with the vast seas of abiotic oil that rest in chambers down around 50,000' and in which swim giant and horrible creatures only known from the geologic record. (So many people have missed the obvious- the bones of these monsters are found in oily deposits because they lived and live in oil) The reason that the lower world is kept so secret by governments and the UN is fear that if it is known someone will try to tap them and that will lead to another war with the creatures who live in the mushroom forests along their shores. Here is a report from a 19th century explorer:
We had long lost sight of the sea shore behind the hills of bones.The rash Professor, careless of losing his way, hurried me forward.We advanced in silence, bathed in luminous electric fluid. By somephenomenon which I am unable to explain, it lighted up all sides ofevery object equally. Such was its diffusiveness, there being nocentral point from which the light emanated, that shadows no longerexisted. You might have thought yourself under the rays of a verticalsun in a tropical region at noonday and the height of summer. No vapour was visible. The rocks, the distant mountains, a few isolatedclumps of forest trees in the distance, presented a weird andwonderful aspect under these totally new conditions of a universaldiffusion of light. We were like Hoffmann's shadowless man.
"No human creature?" replied my uncle in a lower voice. "You arewrong, Axel. Look, look down there! I fancy I see a living creaturesimilar to ourselves: it is a man!"
I looked, shaking my head incredulously. But though at first I wasunbelieving I had to yield to the evidence of my senses.
In fact, at a distance of a quarter of a mile, leaning against the trunk of a gigantic kauri, stood a human being, the Proteus of those subterranean regions, a new son of Neptune, watching this countlessherd of mastodons.
Immanis pecoris custos, immanior ipse.
"The shepherd of gigantic herds, and huger still himself."
Yes, truly, huger still himself. It was no longer a fossil being likehim whose dried remains we had easily lifted up in the field ofbones; it was a giant, able to control those monsters. In stature hewas at least twelve feet high. His head, huge and unshapely as abuffalo's, was half hidden in the thick and tangled growth of hisunkempt hair. It most resembled the mane of the primitive elephant.In his hand he wielded with ease an enormous bough, a staff worthy ofthis shepherd of the geologic period.
In modern times they have only rarely ascended the lava tubes of the Pacific NW and the Himalaya- but steal their oil and all that will change. The Bigfeet can strike back in many ways. They might interrupt the springs that feed water to the upper world or stoke the volcanos and lubricate the earthquake faults. Or they will open the taps but perhaps not tell us to build an ark this time. Our hubris will once again bring the end of surface civilization and a great die-off as it has so many times in the past.
Past contacts gave birth to the Hells and Hades that exist in so many mythologies. Pray that the well is sealed and such nightmarish tribal memories are not freshened in our time.
Do you think this is funny?
I see you are trying so hard to be a wit. But this is nothing but a tragedy and your attempt shows you are a dim wit.
What would be the effects of
What would be the effects of 150,000 barrels of oil gushing into the Gulf every day?
You're seeing it right now.
You're seeing it right now.
No, we're seeing at most a
No, we're seeing at most a third of it - and we're operating under the assumption that it will be stopped when the relief wells hit their target. In the scenario laid out by the poster - if we hit the point where we're at 150,000 barrels per day that means the relief wells are too late and that all ~2 billion barrels in the reservoir will leak out - 150,000 barrels a day (although at that rate it would take 36 years to bleed out, and I can only hope we'd figure something out within 36 years).
So... what happens if 150,000 barrels of oil leak into the gulf every day for the next year? 5 years? 10 years? Does every living thing in the gulf die? Does that oil end up on every beach in the Atlantic? WTF happens then?
Effects?
Over a thousand miles of vibrant, living Gulf coast reduced to a toxic wasteland for decades.
Thousands of square miles of ocean habitat rendered lifeless.
Thousands of miles of beautiful, pristine beaches smeared with toxic oil.
If the researcher estimates on the flow rate are accurate, then the scenario probably already exceeds the worst expectations, and is far beyond containment -- and what are the odds that BP's bs estimates had any merit? (One has to wonder why the government was stupid enough to take BP at all seriously on that.)
We'll see extinctions, economic devastation -- a LOT of tourism-based as well as fishery-based economies simply will not recover from this.
If NOAA is even close, the Gulf of Mexico is now a ticking time bomb... if the reports of miles-long, thousands of feet deep plumes of oil scattered around the GoM are accurate, the first hurricane through the warm Gulf waters will render ecological devastation the likes of which the world has never seen short of Yellowstone and Mazama.
and that is just the start...
since the entire gulf coast would be a wasteland the entire population for a considerably deep strip around it would pack up their bags and relocate causing even more economic disaster. in the end the bulk of florida, alabama, mississippi, louisiana, texas, and mexico defaults into becoming an in-land reserve as the population shifts inland further stressing already sensitive immigration and community issues.
eventually someone figures out a way to float a wall from key west to cancun encapsulating the entire gulf from polluting the atlantic and onward, creating a virtual cesspool out of the entire gulf. a second someone later figures out a way to extract the oil in efficient quantity from the water using some sort of centrifugal process. huge centrifuges are installed all along the coast bringing people back to mine the oil rich waters and forming the next generation of billionaires ready to continue the pillaging of the earth in other more creative and arrogant ways.
during this time the markets crashed and recovered a half dozen times. the south of india is where you will find all of the new white collars.
150,000 barrels of oil/day
when considering the environmental impact of oil in water, it's just important to understand that 1 quart of petrol oil will render 250.000 gallons of water toxic and unable to support life.
So, just consider what a million gallons of sludge is doing to the Gulf!
This is a disaster of untold proportions.
References?
The 1 quart comment got posted on reddit.com and people asked for a citation. So here's that same quote again, and again without a citation. Look, we don't doubt that the damage is horrific, but if you make claims like this without references, you're not helping your cause. So, again, please, can you cite a reference for you claim?
Thanks.
Dispersants
I agree that bald assertions like this are useless. One of the several elephants in the room is the widespread use of toxic dispersants. Even assuming that a fix is found for the leak, it's already acknowledged that the ill-considered use of these dispersants will make cleanup much more difficult, and greatly increases the amount of damage to the undersea ecosystems.
1 qt of motor oil contamination effects--here's the reference
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:pMMg3DvbKnUJ:des.nh.gov/organi...
For more information on the management of used oil, contact DES Used Oil Program, PO Box 95, Concord, NH 03302-0095; (603)
271-6424 or toll-free 1-888-TAKEOIL; TDD Access: Relay NH 1-800-735-2964.
Hyperbole, four parts per
Hyperbole, four parts per million of oil as stated in your source can hardly be believed to kill all life and make the water lethal.
poor reference
Uh, that reference does not say that one quart of oil will make any quantity of seawater toxic. It says that one quart of oil "may" make groundwater undrinkable. Totally different things, with groundwater being governed by the Clean Water Act.
even poorer reference
Well then... I can say that one drop of oil MAY make 150 million gallons of water toxic... I guess there's no arguing there :/
/sarcasm
I hate to say that I told you, but...
It is interesting to me that I came to this very conclusion on May 16, 2010. How do I know the date you ask? Well, I simply looked at the date when I sent an e-mail to the NYTimes reporter asking him if he understood the significance of this. I had actually calculated the mass of the plumes and posted all of the data on a personal blog. After realizing that many would completely panic if they read the material I promptly removed it.
It is now one Month to the day later. I have endured knowing this for more than 30 days now. You can't tell anyone about it, they literally think that you may be crazy. I saw the doubt in the eyes of my wife so certainly others would think far worse.
I can tell you that this scenario is likely absolutely true. I can tell you that it is natural to reach a point of near panic when you understand what this means. I can tell you that you will get over it as the days pass.
Now imagine having a solution to the current issue and not only will no one listen to you but the will actually do things that make it more and more difficult to ever solve the problem.
At this point I am just watching and waiting to see what happens when the entire structure is enveloped by the Earth and the enormous amounts of oil and natural gas are released.
It should be fun. Just so some can have some light reading I will post what I removed 1 month ago in case you care to read it.
are you seriously?
Did you just seriously base an article about one of the largest environmental disasters in the nation's history entirely on the postings of an anonymous comment forum on the Internet?
No, really. Did you?
Perhaps, you might want to call someone on the phone and talk to them and run these ideas by them?? Don't care to verify anything?
It'd take a phone call. Why would we read this site if you have nothing more to offer than the republishing of a comment forum? I thought MoJo was about finding truth.
Are you kidding? This kind of
Are you kidding? This kind of lazy jounalism is typical all over MoJo. These "contributers" are famous for linking to others' works and then asking you to comment here. I'm beginning to wonder why I come here at all for info when I've already gotten it from real journalists.
Real Journalists
You mean the real journalists who not only aren't allowed to fly over the gulf or use a boat to see the true effects of the oil spill but don't seem bothered that they are being censored? The same ones whose whole extent of news coverage on the oil spill comes from BP itself?
Definitely a huge problem in
Definitely a huge problem in all of this. I don't think the solution is running comments posted anonymously on message boards, though.
Are YOU kidding?
"Real journalists" relate government, think tank, and private propaganda as if it were actual news. "Real journalists" often report - verbatim - PRESS RELEASES friom companies, the White House, etc... etc.., and almost always rate it higher than input from citizens.
"Real journalists" think that colonialism is over in Africa, that racism no longer exists because Obama is president, that unions and community groups are no more legitimate than private think tanks, that John Grey has a university degree, that Oprah is a radical feminist... do i need to go on?
I'll take a web posting from an anonymous source who gives verifiable and testable predictions, and provides leads which anyone can chase down and investigate for themselves, over ten million "real journalists".
The Gulf Coast Disaster
Look, I know there is a lot of mis-information out there. But I am here to tell you. I am on the ground in Orange Beach Alabama. I have met with Geologists, Toxicologist, Exxon Driller's, Shell Corp people, not to mention have people in my family that have retired from the oil industry. Every Day this continues, there will be breaches in the structure of the well, The velocity at which the oil is caring sand through the well casing is destroying it from the inside out. The best case scenario (which did not happen), is a natural occurrence referred to by oil field workers as Sanding up. That is when the velocity in which the oil is flowing begins to carry enough debris along with it, that the well head actually clogs itself up. There is no good scenario coming...It took 9 months to stop Ixtoc in 200 feet of water, this will not end in August! That is like them telling us it was 5000 barrels a day leaking from the well. For anyone not living here, you are not seeing the real news...I am here on the ground. I know what's going on and I have proof to everything I am saying. The oil is not the problem we are facing it is the dispersant. That is what will affect each and every individual in this Country! You have know Idea of the worst case scenario...It is not the Volcano of oil in which you fear! It's the Toxins that are already being carried inland by air, ground water and Dump Trucks to areas near you! The Dispersant releases VOC's at 100 degrees F. The lead, mercury, Cadmium, Arscenic and Syanide will BioAccumilate. The oil will degrade on it's own, the use of the Dispersant from the beginning, has extinguished every possibility of BioRemediation.
Any geologists care to reply?
A possibility occurred to me that I’ve not seen discussed anywhere…should a second and & worst case explosion occur at the Deepwater Well ( be it a massive methane blow or seawater reaching magma at the portal of oil equilibrium when pressure decreases ) is it possible it would generate, not one, but a series of explosions by way of each new crater created (in the now compromised sea floor) triggering another back-flow of sea water to magma?..that is, until the whole thing collapses just right.
Any geologists out there who would comment?
verification
Kieth Olbermann did tonight.
I have to agree with Frederick Toms...
Hello MoJo? Did you read the *entire* thread? There are a number of posters who also seem to be very well versed in O&G, who offer more/different opinions of what they're seeing. Seriously. No, Seriously - I expect more careful reporting from MoJo than this. Is there cause for worry? Sure. Could this be the enviro-pocalyse? Perhaops. But is there any decent reason to post something so dire when there's actually additional info in the thread which offers some calming mitigation to what dougr reported? Absolutely. Is this "fearless" - more like foolhardy. Is it "smart?" ...sure doesn't seem to be. It's this VERY kind of sensationalism which undermines journalism of all kinds, no matter what side of the "fence" you may be on.
Dead right
The criticism of this at theOilDrum was maybe more restrained and subtle than it might have been because it was in some ways a continuation of Matt Simmons' claims, which had been thoroughly ridiculed. The topic had been handled. Yes there probably are downhole breaches discovered during top kill but if they were currently getting to the surface they would most likely be streaming up around the casing and they aren't. Lateral migration is very unlikely in the upper 1000' feet or so because it is goop. The BOP is unlikely to tip over. It is attached to 1000s of feet of pipe. If the pipe was broken near the surface we'd almost certainly see oil spewing from around its base.
The clearest evidence that this post was hype is the claim that "billions" of barrels will spill as a result. The reservoir isn't close to that big.
DougR, I fear, is shorting BP stock, trying to influence public opinion for other reasons or just likes scaring people.
i'm sure there were thousands
i'm sure there were thousands of people at the oildrum, of all places, long on bp until this dougr came along and scared 'em.
DougR KNOWS what he's talking about
To those that are refuting the post by Doug..please share YOUR facts and figures on this. This was his SECOND essay that he wrote about the oil leak. In the first one, he nailed everything to the letter that would happen and what they(BP) would try and why it would fail. He was 100% accurate and his 2nd one is spot on as well. If you're going to slam another work then provide your own research and knowledge about the matters.
Lending MoJo to a post written by an admin at Godlike
Productions (GLP), conspiracy and other woo site extraordinaire ? I'm very disappointed...
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1097505/pg1
His admission that he is indeed both SHR (GLP) and dougr (TOD) is located at here:
Um...
Dougr is in disagreement with even the more respected voices on The Oil Drum. If you want facts and figures, read what Rockman and others on The Oil Drum have said in response to Dougr, whose opinion is similar to Matthew Simmons'. I do not rule them out altogether, but they are at the fringe of opinion.
As for dougr's accuracy so far, scads of bloggers have been spot-on in predicting the maneuvers of BP to date, and the failure of everything until the relief wells are in (citing the history of similar incidents). So, that dougr has been right about BP no far is no big deal, and does not mean that his apocalyptic read on the sea floor is thus equally accurate.
In any case, lets hope he is wrong, and that this is a spill fixable by the relief wells.
Matt Simmons?! Matt Simmons
Matt Simmons?! Matt Simmons says we're going to have to NUKE it to get it to stop flowing. I don't think he is who you want to use to refute DougR/SHR's information.
I think you've misunderstood...
...the poster you're responding to. Simmons and DougR are promoting similar scare stories. That Simmons's claims have been shown to be almost certainly invalid is a refutation of DougR's claims by extension. Neither is credible.
ROCKMAN said nothing in
ROCKMAN said nothing in response to dougr's post. He did not post in that thread.
DougR
I was *not* refuting DougR (nor slamming anything); merely pointing out that there's more info here - in the thread itself - and that a little less sensational approach to sharing it would've been a good thing. Yeah - I likely overemphasized my point, but I stand by my take on the way it was delivered.
So basically your gripe is
So basically your gripe is what emotional state the author is in and nothing to do with the actual factual content on display. Great, guy.
His/her gripe is
That dougr's viewpoint is:
1. Just a viewpoint, and perhaps not the most informed among the oil experts on The Oil Drum (and elsewhere).
2. It is the most extreme take on what is happening in the GOM.
To present dougr's view alone tends to suggest it is "the" informed opinion, and not "an" informed (presumably) opinion. Given the gravity of his statements, this is irresponsible, panic-inducing "journalism".
MJ needs to get a clue, and try to provide some kind of balance, especially when posting "the end is near" opinion.
another voice
Kevin Costner and James Cameron and Kate Winslet and DiCaprio
This sounds like a job for Kevin Costner and James Cameron and Kate Winslet and DiCaprio will fix this situation. Just give them a call. And while you're at it, maybe call Celine Dion as well. Near. Far. Wherever You Are. I believe that the oil-gusher does go on. - Arunabh Das
I did. On the Monday after the blow out was first reported...
...in a comment about Graham and the related legislation. But until You mentioned it, Kind One, I have not wanted to take credit for It because of My Own Unfortunate History. And, actually, I only referred to Graham trying to push through "The Bill" before the oil hit the beaches. But sometimes it pays to read between the lines, do You not agree? At any rate, I offer My Apologies and Condolences. Good Luck. You are going to need it. And, Remember, Between The Lines!
((Posted on Blue Marble: Climate Chaos: Senators Meeting Soon By Kate Sheppard, April 26, 2010: Graham The MadMan: Submitted by Cassandra of Troy on Mon Apr. 26, 2010 1:21 PM PDT. ..."However, Graham's been able to wring a lot out of this bill, including major investments in nuclear power and increased offshore drilling."... "Can not but fear that Graham wants to get this bill through before the BP oil spill in the Gulf hits the beaches. Remember Santa Barbara."))
And, although I realize it is Vain, I was actually quite proud of this!
For I am Cassandra of Troy, no Other.
I stand corrected. You
I stand corrected. You warned us, and no one believed you. Go figure.
I go now to take solace from Cat Blogging (I hope it's up)
Idiot talk
Kevin Costner is trying, you are just a clown.
What would be the effects of 150,000 bbl/d of oil in the Gulf
Think Chernobyl but with more impact to wildlife and economy
Hazard consequences for wildlife (a bunch are bound to become endangered) notwithstanding it would shut down fishing in the gulf, a lot of countries require that fishing industry to support themselves so a bit of famine is to be expected, but UN would probably provide aid to the families in America, Mexico etc
This is a huge well, if it bursts completely it won't stop gushing until it's empty which means a huge economic loss in a time when oil is scarce, which is another hazard
Third hazard is that crude oil is extremely toxic, fumes from it alone are capable of causing death; now imagine what happens when a hurricane lifts all that oil, spreads it out in the air and deposits it over the coast for millions of people to breathe in
As to those questioning "anonymous" people on forums I suggest you read this
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2010/06/07/senator-nelson-says-bp-well...
A geologist suggests drilling 8 more vertical wells asap
See: What to Do! at http://www.aesopinstitute.org
Also, Life Threatening Danger on the same website.
Both were updated today.
This is a far greater emergency than has been generally realized.
All high pressure wells may prove to open the door to similar hazards, even those on land.
You may want to read Moving Beyond Oil and Running on Water on that Aesop site.
With adequate support, a 24/7 development program could move these breakthrough technologies our of the laboratory, and into production, much more rapidly.
We can supersede oil faster than might be imagined. And, it may be far more important to do so than is generally understood.
This may prove to be an emergency equivalent to all out war!
World War II demonstrated we have the capability to respond when necessary. A few months after Pearl Harbor was attacked, a bomber rolled off the line at Willow Run every 59 minutes.
These new technologies are less complicated. The science is hard to believe, as it disagrees with conventional wisdom. But, independent and National laboratories are increasingly involved. Once prototypes for schools are in production, it will become obvious that gasoline, oil, coal, natural gas and nuclear power will face low cost competition that can leave all of them behind. And generate millions of well-paid positions in the process.
Wake up folks! We have a difficult, but possible, job to do! Let's do it!
But here's the problem: I
But here's the problem: I make $93m per day selling oil and you make $1k per day building my competition, I'll do damn near anything to stop your innovation. I've been doing exactly that for decades. Now get back into your automobile and go home.
Is Mr. Oil the Anti-Christ?
Haven't you then, Mr. Oil, made plenty enough money already. Can't you then, now get back into your automobile and go home? I mean, for the sake of the earth, humanity and simply decency? or is your egomanical addiction to yet another $93-mil/day just too much smack in yer spoon to let go?
I'll think that over on the
I'll think that over on the way to the bank.
For the greedy man there is
For the greedy man there is never enough.
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