This past Wednesday, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) delivered a wide-ranging speech at an Orthodox Union event in Washington, D.C. The senator’s lecture touched on areas such as Iran’s nuclear program, the Israel-Palestinian conflict, and several domestic policy issues.
During one point of his speech, Schumer turned his attention to the situation in Gaza. He told the audience that the “Palestinian people still don’t believe in the Jewish state, in a two-state solution,” and also that “they don’t believe in the Torah, in David.” He went on to say “you have to force them to say Israel is here to stay.”
New York’s senior senator explained that the current Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip — which is causing a humanitarian crisis there — is not only justified because it keeps weapons out of the Palestinian territory, but also because it shows the Palestinians living there that “when there’s some moderation and cooperation, they can have an economic advancement.” Summing up his feelings, Schumer emphasized the need to “to strangle them economically until they see that’s not the way to go”:
SCHUMER: The Palestinian people still don’t believe in the Jewish state, in a two-state solution. More do than before, but a majority still do not. Their fundamental view is, the Europeans treated the Jews badly and gave them our land — this is Palestinian thinking [...] They don’t believe in the Torah, in David [...] You have to force them to say Israel is here to stay. The boycott of Gaza to me has another purpose — obviously the first purpose is to prevent Hamas from getting weapons by which they will use to hurt Israel — but the second is actually to show the Palestinians that when there’s some moderation and cooperation, they can have an economic advancement. When there’s total war against Israel, which Hamas wages, they’re going to get nowhere. And to me, since the Palestinians in Gaza elected Hamas, while certainly there should be humanitarian aid and people not starving to death, to strangle them economically until they see that’s not the way to go, makes sense.
Watch it:
Schumer is simply factually incorrect that the “majority” of Palestinians refuse to accept a two-state solution. Recent polling has found that 74 percent of the Palestinian population wants to see a two-state solution with an Israeli and Palestinian state side by side. It is also the position of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, and there is evidence that Gaza’s Hamas rulers may be compelled to support such a solution as well.
As for the senator’s comments on economic strangulation making “sense” to produce better leadership in Gaza, they are as offensive as they are wrong. Schumer believes it is logical to economically harm the civilian population of Gaza — where 44 percent of the people under the age of 14 — for freely voting in an election the U.S. supported, then undermined, in order to change the territory’s government. The reality is that its leadership has only become further radicalized and entrenched as a result of the embargo. (HT: Mondoweiss)
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Sorry, but I gave up even caring a little bit about that area of the world.
Constant fighting, bickering, violence, killing for decades just makes me think..
…screw em, let them destroy each other, I wash my hands of it all.
June 11th, 2010 at 1:37 pmI’d think that Schumer has a small conflict of interest; wouldn’t you?
AIO
June 11th, 2010 at 1:43 pmInteresting concept. Does this mean we can wall off states and close their borders if they elect a governor/legislature we don’t like? We have ignored so many laws and treaties on things like this, it only makes sense we go for the whole enchilada.
In fact, maybe we should start with AZ. After all, they are letting all those illegal immigrants in that are destroying the security of our nation.
June 11th, 2010 at 1:44 pmThen some over there wants to blow ship up over here and our media ask “…why do they hate us…”
Jus, wow…stupid
Reality to Schumer, Israel wants the Palestinians DEAD not complicit…when has a conqueror of land ever wanted the people it couldn’t exploit into slavery to live?!
June 11th, 2010 at 1:44 pmWhat the heck happened to Schumer???? Did he need funding or something? This is DISGUSTING.
I am a Jew and I personally think Israel gave up its right to exist the first time they kicked a Palestinian off their land to take it over. And now of course, they seem to have learned all the wrong lessons from the Holocaust.
If you can’t coexist, you don’t deserve to exist.
June 11th, 2010 at 1:45 pmI hope Schumer was pandering to his audience. When parties are forced into an agreement they will not be happy and they will undermine the agreement. Any divorce attorney would agree to the premise. The US and Europe need to impose sanctions on all parties until the agree to peace talks without preconditions. Both the Israelis and Palestinians are using preconditions as a reason to avoid the talks.
June 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pmI’d say Schumer is un-informed and has a GIANT BLIND SPOT ™.
June 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pmI guess while the Dems have a majority in Congress, we need to lock up all the teabagger/wingnuts in prison until they see things our way.
June 11th, 2010 at 1:52 pm/snark
Why is Hamas any different than Fatah was twenty years ago?
All the incentives are perverse.
The blockade strengthens Hamas through their control of the black market. Economically disenfranchising Palestinians perpetuates the creation of future terrorists. The bombing of key infrastructure leaves the population more dependent on Hamas, ensuring their alliance against the oppressor.
June 11th, 2010 at 1:53 pmChuck is my Senator and he rarely makes this kind of factual error. Disappointing.
Given that 3/4 of Palestinians support a two-state solution one has to wonder why on earth they put Hamas in charge. Israel needs to take the time to understand that dynamic and we might be closer to peace.
June 11th, 2010 at 1:54 pmOh, here we go again. Exactly who conquered what land and when did they do it? Is your argument that Israel does not have the right to exist?
June 11th, 2010 at 1:58 pmRight. Because putting people in camps and denying them basic needs, not to mention any hope of economic advancement, always works so well at bringing people around to one’s own point of view.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:02 pmI find that statement rather shocking…but then again, I’m finding a whole lot of things being said by a whole lot of people pretty shocking.
Open racism, bigotry, homophobia, sedition, demands for torture… our inhumanity to our fellow beings is a tragedy.
It used to be that it was just isolated crazies, and now? All that ugliness has become mainstream. Bad. Very bad. I am ashamed.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:04 pmSome interesting stats. Israel is about 22,000 square km with a population of about 7.5 million, 3/4 of them Jewish, and has the backing of the world’s biggest superpower. Gaza is 45 square km with a population of about half a million. And Israel is afraid of Gaza.
Sounds a lot like another paranoid country chasing a handful of radicals in the mountains of another country not too far away because they are scared of them.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:04 pmI do not believe in the Torah, either, and have no idea what it means to “believe in David.”
Are you going to strangle me to force me to believe these things, as well, Senator Schumer? WTF!
Really, truly, he is putting the aims of Israel expansion above US interests. We’re paying a heavy price for supporting Israeli hardliners.
Hearing this I shudder to think of a Majority Leader Schumer.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:04 pmLost in all of Schumer’s advocacy is the apparent fact that the blockade has only strengthened Hamas and, at least as of this month turned Israel’s closest Muslim partner against Israel. There are ways of protecting your state without ventilating protesters and creating global ill will. I do not have a vested interest in taking sides in the Israel/Palestine struggle other than the interest in world peace. Schumer however seems to be advocating the practice of the late, unlamented Bush administration of applying the same failed tactics in expectation of a better result the next time.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:07 pmdchart: Hamas ran an anti-corruption campaign to win. The blockade has enriched criminal gangs that run the tunnels, just like the US/Cuba embargo is a failure. That entrenched Castro.
The settlers and their Knesset supporters are funded by evangelicals. They want to expand the settlements, and are opposed to any peace agreement, so their lord will return. Israelis regard the evangelicals as useful idiots.
When I was in Anchorage for the Iditarod, I met a minister in Palin’s church, who said to me “Auschwitz was divine retribution because you people have refused to accept G-d’s only son.” They love Israel, but hate Judaism and Jewish culture.
More at:
June 11th, 2010 at 2:09 pmhttp://newyorkleftist.blogspot.com/2009/10/jewish-pogrom.html
So it is OK to practice slow starvation of a people because they don’t believe in the Torah and David ????
And historically, can you provide me with examples of cases where a slow starvation of a country made the people love you ?
June 11th, 2010 at 2:14 pmThere is historical justification for the US support of Israel and its actions towards the Palestinians. Can you say Manifest Destiny? I knew you could.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:14 pm“they don’t believe in the Torah, in David.” why should they believe in the Torah (the Jewish holy book)? They are Muslim and believe in the Koran.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:14 pmdchart says:
Is your argument that Israel does not have the right to exist?
I do not believe he stated any such thing.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:16 pmBut Israel does not have the right to act as the Nazi’s did towards the Jewish people and try to starve and exterminate the people of Gaza. Hamas has been wrong in their actions, but Israel has been shedding the blood of innocents as well, unarmed women and children, while also denying them food and medicine.
Two wrongs never make a right.
Consider the possibility
Hmm, I’ve considered this possibility and I find it to be incredibly simplistic and also wrong.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:16 pmThanks.
must be those “facts” that can be articulated…
June 11th, 2010 at 2:17 pmiirc, religious scripture has jesus taunting the fallen king david.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:18 pmRemember when you were younger.
You and your brother would fight over the same toy and your mom would come along and take the toy so no one can have it since you couldn’t learn how to share it.
I say let’s turn the place into a toxic dump so no one can have it.
Since people have been fighting over this land for centuries I figure by the time the toxic waste is finally safe for someone to enter the land they may all have learned to share by then.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:20 pmpatrioticusglory says:
And unfortunately and embarrassingly enough for you, that wasn’t it.
Whatever you were trying to say, it didn’t make the least bit of sense, other than to attack Leftside, personally.
This interests me…
Many times a poster here, such as Leftside, will voice an opinion about something a 3rd party, such as Schumer, has said or done. And as often or not, the troll response is to only ATTACK the first poster personally, the way this twit just did.
No real point… just gobblygook laced w/ personal attacks…
Strange dynamic…
Just sayin’…
June 11th, 2010 at 2:22 pmHertzl was atheist and the reason for the movement of a land for the people persecuted by others was so they could have justice.
to persecute others as they were once persecuted is unjust.
co-exist already.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:23 pm“strangle” really not the best choice of wording, chuck.
we expect better from you.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:23 pmDuring an argument between the Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, Peres said that Isralis’ policies of continued violence might “turn the US against us”.
To this Sharon retorted:
Every time we do something, you tell me the Americans will do this and do that. I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.
– Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
June 11th, 2010 at 2:25 pmOctober 3, 2001
can’t…
June 11th, 2010 at 2:25 pmStrangle them until they do what Israel wants, that seems to go against the free elections concept.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:26 pmLord told David in 1 Chronicles 22:8:
8. “But the word of the Lord came to me, saying, ‘You have shed much blood, and have waged great wars; you shall not build a house to My name, because you have shed so much blood on the earth before Me.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:29 pmBreak out the penicillin. A fresh outbreak of VD trollicus.
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Strangling is such a wonderful democratic concept. Much less messy than shooting or bombing with Willy Pete.
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I can hardly wait for Chuck Schummer to finish his autobiography, “I Was A Zionist Crackpot.”
June 11th, 2010 at 2:36 pmI’m not surprised at this. Most of the American people blindly follow Israel, and I’m really not sure why. It is against our interest to do so.
Hamas is a terrorist organization, sure, but where is the outcry against terrorist acts committed by Israel?
“We need a little more compassion, and if we cannot have it then no politician or even a magician can save the planet.”
-HHDL Tenzin Gyatso
June 11th, 2010 at 2:38 pmAnd thus they become what they profess to hate.
:(
June 11th, 2010 at 2:39 pmI guess that TP just proved that all those stupid trolls, all two of him, who claim TP “never criticizes Democrats” are full of shit.
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SCHUMER: Their fundamental view is, the Europeans treated the Jews badly and gave them our land — this is Palestinian thinking [...]
The Palestinian view is correct. Europe opened the doors to Palestine and allowed mass migrations to the area. When the mandate was coming to an end Britain was dividing land that did not belong to them. I don’t think Israel would be happy if we stepped in and divided their land.
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The time has come to educate people, to cease all quarrels in the name of religion, culture, countries, different political or economic systems. Fighting is useless. Suicide.
-HHDL, Tenzin Gyatso
June 11th, 2010 at 2:43 pmWow!!! So the Palestinians don’t believe in the Torah and they don’t believe in David? So? Jews don’t believe in Jesus Christ. , Christians don’t believe in Muhammad, Christians don’t accept the Talmud, Christians believe Jesus Christ abrogated the Old Testament law. Is that religious test a reason for anything?
June 11th, 2010 at 2:43 pmdelafield: Every time we do something, you tell me the Americans will do this and do that. I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it. – Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
October 3, 2001
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That has been thoroughly debunked; it is lifted from the “Protocols.” I’m sorry you have sunk to Goebbels. This makes the mess worse.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:45 pmTVB@42,
It’s my Sunday School Theory of Israel. Many of us were brought up to picture the Israelites, as opposed to the Israelis, as wandering shepherds in search of their land, dressed in robes, eating manna from heaven, and generally benefiting from an Awesome Power. They are two entirely different concepts.
But my theory is that the story of the Israelites’ struggle is used to perpetuate support of the State of Israel.
I’m not being anti-semitic. Many years of religious schooling and subsequent clear thinking have help produce this theory.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:46 pmROFL! 1 post out of 9 million republican smear pieces and you want some kind of award? LOL!
And one yesterday as well, if you bothered to look before broadstroking TP.
Try not to look so foolish next time.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:47 pmTo discriminate against other based on their beliefs is wrong, especially if they differ from yours (conservatives, I’m looking at you). Diversity is what makes the world beautiful, and we are all human beings. These divisions are artificial and will be the downfall of us all.
When I meet people in different parts of the world, I am always reminded that we are all basically alike: we are all human beings. Maybe we have different clothes, our skin is of a different colour, or we speak different languages. That is on the surface. But basically, we are the same human beings. That is what binds us to each other. That is what makes it possible for us to understand each other and to develop friendship and closeness.
-HHDL, Tenzin Gyatso
June 11th, 2010 at 2:48 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Still agfraid to explain why a grown man would compromise his inegrity for attention I see. What a complete loser our little friend is. So let’s recap shall we? Insincere fos, no life, obsessed with a website, hiding his illness from family no career, no significant other, socially awkward… Does that pretty much cover it?
June 11th, 2010 at 2:49 pmI expect this thread to be a ghost town in no time…
Strike two, in the whiffleball world series.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:49 pmmisha_t: #19
Good take on the situation. I didn’t think about the meddling of the Christian right in the affairs of Israel and encouraging troubling settlements. Indeed, the irrationality flows both ways as members of the Israeli State Department attended an event at Liberty U. a couple of months ago. So we have crazy Jews working crazy Christians.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:49 pmThe Israeli government is being anti-Palestinian.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:49 pm@51
I can see that.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:50 pmI once had an extended argument with a Christian over this, and he kept quoting me Old Testament verses supporting Israel’s bad behavior. Yet when I pushed him to quote a single verse, anywhere, where Christ might have condoned this, he could not, after a solid month.
Evangelicals in this country are so in love with the OT that they forget the lessons of Christ; mercy, charity, forgiveness, love.
Diversity is what makes the world beautiful, and we are all human beings. These divisions are artificial and will be the downfall of us all.
Greed isn’t artificial. It’s ingrained in the “I got mine” crowd.
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@60
But they have convinced themselves that things ephemeral, like money and possessions, are the goal in life. Greed is artificial; it may be widespread, but it is still a construct of man’s inability to let go.
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With all the troll’s broadbrush rhetoric, it’s small wonder he’s covered in his own paint.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:54 pmObsess over a website much…
June 11th, 2010 at 2:55 pmI’m off to FoxNation,
Fairy tale junky.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:55 pmGreed is artificial; it may be widespread, but it is still a construct of man’s inability to let go.
Man has to believe he is the most important thing in existence to justify his existence. Without his ego, man is afraid there are things more important. Which is why he makes his deities in his own image.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:57 pmHard to imagine a life as just another sock in a drawer full of socks. Pity the puppets.
June 11th, 2010 at 2:58 pmbarfly says:
With all the troll’s broadbrush rhetoric, it’s small wonder he’s covered in his own paint.
That ain’t white paint covering his lips and hands.
June 11th, 2010 at 3:00 pmPrecisely. I would argue that Israel paranoia is entirely justified but that is irrelevant. Irrational people are confronted with a neighbor comprised of religious zealots who have stated their intent to destroy them.
June 11th, 2010 at 3:01 pmbecause that’s what democracy is all about, coercion. right, chuck?
June 11th, 2010 at 3:02 pmMarx was wrong. Religion isn’t the opiate of the masses. It is the hammer of the power structure. Religion doesn’t free mankind, it enslaves them as a tool of the greedy. True spiritual freedom comes from within.
June 11th, 2010 at 3:04 pmThe Modern English word “fox” is Old English, and comes from the Proto-Germanic word fukh
June 11th, 2010 at 3:04 pm“…while certainly there should be humanitarian aid and people not starving to death, to strangle them economically until they see that’s not the way to go makes sense.” – Sen. Schumer
Could have been said by a National Socialist at one point in time.
June 11th, 2010 at 3:06 pmIrrational people are confronted with a neighbor comprised of religious zealots who have stated their intent to destroy them.
Just who is zooming who here? The folks with the massive military machine or the ones with a few pitiful home made rockets?
June 11th, 2010 at 3:06 pmHoodathunk, some very cogent arguments here.
June 11th, 2010 at 3:17 pmThank you.
Is Schumer confused at all…..or just showing his unconditional loving bias towards Israel?
June 11th, 2010 at 3:29 pmThere is an inherent lack of fairness and lack of compassion in all levels of the US government’s response to the tragedy in Gaza and the Israeli occupation there. This must end…
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June 11th, 2010 at 3:37 pmi was just thinking..fox news is bleeping out obama saying ass.
yet fox comes from the word fuchs meaning tail.
will tail news bleep out fox?
June 11th, 2010 at 3:39 pm20 – patheticusgloryhole:
My definitions HAVE NOT CHANGED ONE WHIT. I know torture, racism, bigotry, homophobia and fascism when I see it.
Nor do I modify the definitions of words or of reality to cover changing conditions. Period.
*I* rely on reality, knowledge, information and education to form my opinions – unlike empty-headed rightwing authoritarians like you, who simply regurgitate the ever-changing ideological vomit spoon-fed to them when and where they’re told to by their masters.
Furthermore, also unlike you and those like you, I am willing to speak out against anyone who espouses racism, bigotry, homophobia, etc. etc. – no matter who they are.
Stupid people like you are going to be the death of this great nation.
June 11th, 2010 at 3:40 pm74: “…while certainly there should be humanitarian aid and people not starving to death, to strangle them economically until they see that’s not the way to go makes sense.” – Sen. Schumer
Could have been said by a National Socialist at one point in time.
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That’s exactly my point. We should be using Tutu and Mandela as our models, not Germany. We know better. That Occupation is debasing us.
June 11th, 2010 at 3:45 pmNor do I modify the definitions of words or of reality to cover changing conditions. Period. -=sot grebe=-
really? define liberal.
June 11th, 2010 at 3:47 pmbetter yet define reality el grebe sot.
June 11th, 2010 at 3:50 pmIsrael needs to do the Pogo thing. “We have met the enemy and he is us”
June 11th, 2010 at 4:01 pmIs it logical for Obama to continue the Kennedy embargo of Cuba, economically punishing its people? It’s only been 47 years.
June 11th, 2010 at 4:10 pmWho does he think he is? Lieberman is the Senator from Israel.
June 11th, 2010 at 4:31 pmSenator Schumer (Z – Tel Aviv), just another zionest terrorist.
June 11th, 2010 at 4:56 pmPalestianians had a chance for their own state in 1948 and rejected it.
June 11th, 2010 at 4:58 pmI expect this thread to be a ghost town in no time…
Home run!
June 11th, 2010 at 5:01 pmIt would be good if Schumer started being an American and forgot about being an Israeli. He is now not fit to be a US Senator amd should be replaced by someone who will think of America first. If israel chooses to do whatever it wants, let it do it without American political, monetary and military support.
June 11th, 2010 at 5:15 pmOnly a unanimous resolution by the security council can legitimize the weeding out of an estimated one billion radicals that are standing in the way of world peace. Those malcontents should be exported to the vast regions of Siberia where they would be kept busy keeping warm. Religious charities can send them blankets to help them survive the bitter winters.
June 11th, 2010 at 5:24 pmNext time,our delicious Senator will make a proposal.
June 11th, 2010 at 5:38 pmChange the name of Gaza.What about Dachau or Mathausen?
Well now, it is easy to see why the USA supports Israel in everything Israel does. I mean what is a little starvation to 1.5 million people to get them to vote “your” way.
June 11th, 2010 at 5:42 pmThey don’t believe in the Thora…. Neither do I!
Schumer (and Bloomberg & Co.) forget that Israel is the creation of zionist self declared terrorist(!)organizations like Haganah, Irgun, Lehi before 1948. So who’s the terrorist?
In 1967 Israel started the 6day war to get hold of the wailing wall (they were superbly prepared – US war last 6 years+) and started immediately until this very day to build civil stettlements in blattant violation of Geneva Conv. IV.
Is thisb state terrorism? YES. Did Hamas, Hizboullah and even al Quaida exist then or even 10 years later? NO!! These are legitimate self-defence organizations.
If this happened to the US every american would volunteer to defend his homeland with even the prospect of a heroes(!) burial in Arlington. But by a curious twist in the american mind, if innocent palestinians do it, they are TERRORISTS!!
By the way, Shderot, the town they aim with (home made) rockets was a palestinian village named Nasd which, like another 400 palestinian villages, was destroyed by the israelis and the inhabitants of which live now in refugee camps in Gaza. Understand why 9/11 is self inflicted? Who would not learn to fly under these conditions.
Long live Jimmy Carter and Helen Thomas
June 11th, 2010 at 5:52 pmThat’s BS. Islam has the Torah as well. These could be called the Torah Wars.
June 11th, 2010 at 5:59 pmPalestinians are Arabs
June 11th, 2010 at 6:01 pmArabs are Semites
Schumer clearly hates Palestinians
Therefore Shumer is Anti-Semitic
These quotations seem to have been obviously stitched together out of context. Shummer may have said: “they don’t believe in the Torah, in David . .” but this statment may well have related to a different subject then the legitimate reasons to blockade the enemy.
June 11th, 2010 at 6:06 pmI also agree with the blockade. Hamas was lawfully in charge (for a short while) but is no longer is the legal government of Gaza and Hamas makes no excuse for their stated goal of turning Israel into an Islamic religious theocracy–just like Iran is.
I tell you guys; you’re lucky that Europeans aren’t interested in the details of U.S. politics.
The picture isn’t fully compatible with the European idea of modern civilization.
June 11th, 2010 at 6:12 pmI think the Isreali’s are the new NAZI’s, check out a map of Isreal circa. 1948 and now. Look at what the Palastinians are left with.
June 11th, 2010 at 6:12 pmIsrael already is a theocracy, just not Islamic.
June 11th, 2010 at 6:16 pmHi long time reader first time commenter… I feel this surreal… As progressives we have to denouce this kind of blatant religious bigotry. I see the language of debate becoming baser in our society and we’ve watched civil debate collapse on the right. We chided those in the GOP for not calling out their extremism. I’m not going to be a hypocrit. This is eff’d up man… Not what I signed on to.
June 11th, 2010 at 6:16 pmObviously someone is voting down anything that is negative to Shumer or Israel. Fine, it is just the click of a button, it means nothing. Thank goodness worldwide perception cannot be voted down as easily as a click. Israel is wrong, considering Israel’s past I am shocked they would be this inhumane to another culture.
June 11th, 2010 at 6:19 pmAnti-Semitic Shumer needs to be go. Helen Thomas is gone.
June 11th, 2010 at 6:19 pm“Schumer is simply factually incorrect that the “majority” of Palestinians refuse to accept a two-state solution. Recent polling has found that 74 percent of the Palestinian population wants to see a two-state solution with an Israeli and Palestinian state side by side. It is also the position of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, and there is evidence that Gaza’s Hamas rulers may be compelled to support such a solution as well.”
The Arabs are famous for saying that they get it when somebody has them by the balls, but the second they get relief, they turn into bomb laden terrorists again. Schumer is correct.
June 11th, 2010 at 6:20 pmRussian rockets used against Russian immigrants. Is this the hidden hand they keep talking about?
June 11th, 2010 at 6:26 pmI do not pretend to claim that I have an answer to this problem. I do believe it should be a two state situation with Israel still intact. However, what I do know is that our legislative leaders should keep their mouths shut. Unless they have a worthy solution, please keep your opinions to yourselves at least in public.
June 11th, 2010 at 6:34 pmChuck Schumer owned by the Israel LOBBY
Owners of Government of USA
a. ISRAEL Lobby
b. the MOSSAD
c. CIA
d. Military Industrial Complexes of America (the Pentagon)
e. Corporations of America
perpetual Corporate Wars from:
a. IRAQ to AFGHANISTAN and
b. IRAN to soon to be in AFRICA too.
Government of USA hijacked by the Israel Lobby
America is waging perpetual wars in the middle-east for ISRAEL
WAR CRIMES for ISRAEL
June 11th, 2010 at 6:36 pmHarry Truman, who screwed the Arab Palestinians in 1947 and 1948, had something to say about Jews like Schumer. Here’s the July 21, 1947 entry from his diary. I simply copied and pasted it from the Truman Library website.
July 21:
[The entry for this day is written on three loose pages, interleaved in the diary book.]
6:00 P. M. Monday July 21, 1947
Had ten minutes conversation with Henry Morgenthau about Jewish ship in Palistine [sic]. Told him I would talk to Gen[eral] Marshall about it.
He’d no business, whatever to call me. The Jews have no sense of proportion nor do they have any judgement on world affairs.
Henry brought a thousand Jews to New York on a supposedly temporary basis and they stayed. When the country went backward-and Republican in the election of 1946, this incident loomed large on the D[isplaced] P[ersons] program.
The Jews, I find are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog. Put an underdog on top and it makes no difference whether his name is Russian, Jewish, Negro, Management, Labor, Mormon, Baptist he goes haywire. I’ve found very, very few who remember their past condition when prosperity comes.
Look at the Congress[ional] attitude on D[isplaced] P[ersons]-and they all come from D[isplaced] P[erson]s.
June 11th, 2010 at 6:39 pmCorporate Wars for OIL pipeline contracts from
a. IRAQ to AFGHANISTAN and
b. IRAN to now soon in Africa too
END the LIES
June 11th, 2010 at 6:40 pmEND the WARS
what happened 100 years ago with the Zionist movement will never be undone. At some point reasonable people understand that acts of terrorism and flat out denying the existence of Israel for the better part of a century will not accomplish anything except a continuing cycle of poverty for the Arab population in Gaza.
Unfortunately, even though the majority of Palestinian people favor a 2 state solution, they have decided to elect representatives that do not have the interest of the Palestinians in mind, but do have the interests of the Iranian regime in full effect.
I will never understand why people defend the massively conservative Islamic regimes in the Middle East. Their countries are living by rules centuries behind the developed world. So many progressives I know hate Israel for what they do to the Palestinians, but will never condemn the ridiculous theocracies in every other state in the Middle East for their human rights records (which are abysmal).
I dare you to find one Islamic Regime that will not execute you if you are openly gay. Kiss in public in the U.A.E. (which is supposed to be the most progressive state in the Middle East) you can do 60 days in jail.
People are just too politically correct to say that the problem is Islam, and they are right to be afraid because the extremists have painted a negative view of their religion across the world over the past century.
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June 11th, 2010 at 6:47 pmIf the Muslims are centuries behind what do you think of a state that recreates the kingdom of the Biblical David?
June 11th, 2010 at 6:47 pmModwrit, if you had any knowledge of demographics you would understand the concept of a highly developed nation, and a lesser developed nation. This is what I am referring to when I say that some Islamic regimes in the Middle East are centuries behind the developed world.
June 11th, 2010 at 6:49 pmWhen they came for the Torah-deniers, I was silent...
June 11th, 2010 at 6:52 pmAnd there’s the voice of power.
Smug, superior, arrogant.
Blame it on the weak and helpless. Poor little Israel, constantly under attack. The Arabs have to be subdued.
Why is it then that when Israel goes into Gaza or Lebanan or wherever great numbers of civilians are always killed and wounded? And only a few Israeli soldiers are wounded or killed? Or other soldiers?
Rocks hurt, we are told. So Arab kids face up to Israeli tanks and throw rocks at them. Or throw rocks at the soldiers. What’s wrong with these kids? Can’t they understand that throwing a rock at a fully armed soldier is a hostile act? That the tanks have to react?
So it is always Arab civilians who die. For, after all, poor little Israel is at war with nearly the entire Arab world. Poor little Israel. Never mind the two hundred or so nuclear bombs, or the immense military they have. One of the largest in the world.
Shame on Americans who support this mindless barbarity, this religious fanaticism which rationalizes an unending siege on a defenseless people. And a huge land grab.
June 11th, 2010 at 7:11 pmThe entire region could be subverted with enough rashers of bacon.
June 11th, 2010 at 7:12 pm.
Shorter Schumer:
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June 11th, 2010 at 7:21 pmCollective punishment against families for the votes of a majority of adults — that were voting AGAINST a hopelessly corrupt and incompetent Abbas regime more than they were voting FOR a Israel policy — is morally contemptible. But, the morality of forcing Palestinian children into malnutrition is probably lost on Schumer.
June 11th, 2010 at 7:26 pmWhat’s the big deal? Of course Sen. Schumer should be out giving speeches on this…no..wait…I’m sorry…I was confused. I thought he was a member of the Knesset instead of an AMERICAN senator.
June 11th, 2010 at 7:28 pmThis “quote” was assembled from disparate bits and pieces!
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That said, the bit about the Torah and David is probably a reference to the Palestinians trying to rewrite history and the Torah by claiming that the Jews have no connection to the Temple Mount.
June 11th, 2010 at 7:36 pmI also find the claim of this one poll questionable to say the least, if only for the fact that the Palestinian answers were compiled by hand, in person while the Israeli data was by phone. This makes the validity of the poll extremely low by any scientific standard.
Take a look at the things being said by the Palesitinian leaders when talking TO Palestinians before you believe what they say to Westerners; and google “Roots Club” Gaza for a little surprize about the horrors of life in the beleaguered Gaza Strip.
Makes total sense to me to strangle a Hamas led regime (which rejects a 2 state solution) and support the PA which advocates it.
The issue isn’t whether a majority of Palestiniains support a 2 state solution, but whether a majority of Gazans do. Election of Hamas suggests that they obviously do not. That’s their choice. Choices have consequences.
I think the context suggests that Schumer was talking about the preferences of Gazans, because he clearly acknowledges that West Bank Palestinians have elected a different government.
Overall, the unthinking support for an extremist government like Hamas, when a perfectly acceptable moderate Palestinian alternative exists in the West Bank, is really appalling.
What a bunch of moral cretins we find on so called progressive sites like these. I consider myself a progressive in every respect, and my progressive political beliefs lead me to support NATIONAL LIBERATION for all, Jews and Palestinian Arabs. That implies a two state solution, not an oppressive Hamas style theocracy.
The national rights of Jews and Arabs must be recognized. Every penny of aid for Hamas is a penny that undermines that basic principle of justice. Think Progress and the folks here praising Hamas and condemning Schumer should be ashamed of themselves for siding against Israel in its war with Hamas. The war against Hamas is a progressive war against a regressive theocracy. It is a war by a state (Israel) that has the potential to come to a just division of the land with another government (the PA) that is willing to recognize Israel… more willing to recognize Israel in fact than many of the antisemitic blowhards and Hamas lovers who post here.
Schumer is neither a hero nor a goat, but in this case he is a straight shooter. We are in a war, not with all Palestinians, but with rejectionists, with eliminationists. It is a war that the people have Gaza have freely chosen, and it is a war that they shall have until, as Schumer rightly and wisely points out, they recognize that the path of peace also lies open, and has many advantages for everyone.
June 11th, 2010 at 7:42 pmSo what else is new, already?
June 11th, 2010 at 7:44 pmSchumer is a despicable and disgusting Zionist and a traitor to American values. The Gaza Strip has become Zionist Israel’s Nazi concentration camp, and it needs to be set free. I’m fed up with Israel’s overwhelming dominance of the Palestinians. They use rocks while Israel uses fighter jets with rockets, tanks, and other high-tech weapons against them.
These Palestinians have a culture of their own, and if they are centuries behind, then leave them be. Israel is trying to take over the Gaza Strip and the offshore natural gas fields which rightfully belong to the Palestinians. This is the reason why they continue to rule Gaza.
The USA should stop American taxpayer funds to Israel so that they can’t continue buying weapons to kill the Palestinians. When it comes to deaths, the ratio of Palestinian deaths is not even close. It must be 30 or 40 to 1. And yet, the Pals continue to fight, and I sense it’s because Israel stole their lands and they continue to do so.
I’m fed up with AIPAC and the Jewish lobby which has far too much influence on the American government, and people like Schumer are Israeli firsters, and being an American is a secondary issue. They embrace Israel’s torturous policy against the Palestinians, and I have no doubt they support Naziboy, Natanyahu’s desire to attack Iran. Natanyahu desperately wants American military support in that endeavor.
The American media has a habit of demonizing Muslims and the Arab world. It’s as if Israel is goody-two shoes. I don’t buy their deceptions. It’s time that America wakeup and realize that Israel does not help the USA in the Middle East. They jeopardize our relations with the rest of the Muslim world. We have to live with a billion and one-half Muslims, and I don’t see America always defending the small population of Israel.
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June 11th, 2010 at 8:00 pmWhat we see is an ethnic hatred on both sides – Jewish and Palestinian.
To see a sitting US Senator take such a blatant position for one ethnic side is an outrage on a deep American tradition of not taking ethnic sides in a fight.
Schumer should be soundly criticized for his statements.
June 11th, 2010 at 8:02 pmI am sickened.
Like many who have already posted, I don’t believe in the Torah or “in David,” (whatever the hell THAT means). I don’t, in fact, believe in any deity, and I don’t believe that geopolitical decisions should be made based on religious books or edicts handed down for centuries by whacked out men (almost ALWAYS men, by the way — tired of THAT crap, too) thinking their GOD told them it should be this way or that…
We’ve been walking upright with opposable thumbs for tens of thousands of years, now. It’s about damned time we start making our decisions with our BRAINS and not our bizarro IMAGINARY FRIENDS.
All well and good for my neighbour to HAVE that imaginary friend, and the freedom to WORSHIP that imaginary friend in any way he chooses. But enough, already, with this damned tendency of his to IMPOSE that imaginary friend and all his edicts on ME. Freedom of religion HAS to end at the tip of my neighbour’s finger. And ALL governments MUST, for the sanctity of the freedom of all humankind, be secular. Period.
This has been ridiculous and pathetic for FAR too long. ENOUGH.
Schumer, you should be embarrassed and ashamed of yourself. I certainly am, on your behalf.
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June 11th, 2010 at 8:07 pmHow are his remarks any less outrageous than those of Helen Thomas?
June 11th, 2010 at 8:12 pmThis guy is clearly not interested in peace. His idea of peace will put all the palestinians on the losing end. Also, this dude has his facts all wrong : Not all palestinians are muslim. A good portion of them are also christian. Muslims believe in the Torah, in David, in Jesus, in the Psalms and the Gospel. No muslim is a muslim if they do not believe in this, says the Koran. So..either this guy is just poor in knowledge or his arrogance is calculated. If it’s the latter, it’s obvious he’s up to no good. Screw his “peace”.
June 11th, 2010 at 8:12 pmPerhaps we should wall off Senator Schumer and starve him until he stops voting for special interest groups.
June 11th, 2010 at 8:19 pmHere’s my idea. Send in a ship full of pigs. We’ll call it Pigs to Palestine. Undoubtedly, there will be a joint IDF/Hamas commando raid to stop it before it pollutes the territorial waters.
June 11th, 2010 at 8:24 pmThe middle east needs a mile-wide asteroid impact centered on Jerusalem.
June 11th, 2010 at 8:28 pmThese comments have decidedly rendered Schumer unfit to be majority leader.
Bring on Durbin…
June 11th, 2010 at 8:32 pmThe good senator is advocating commission of (yet another) war crime by the Israelis.
Collective punishment is defined as a war crime under Article 33 (Part III, Section I) of the Fourth Geneva Convention.
June 11th, 2010 at 8:41 pmHow about Lieberman? He seems like an erudite voice on a vexing problem such as this…
June 11th, 2010 at 8:42 pmI used to think highly of Schumer and now I have lost all respect for him. He must be condemed in the Senate, if any of those wusses has the guts to go up against Israel. Deplorable.
June 11th, 2010 at 8:43 pmSchumer (D-NY) is a fool and a neocon Zionist. He doesn’t realize that there were Arab and Muslin people in Palestine long before the Jewish Europeans came, and when they did come were considered terrorists! Does anyone remember Exodus 1947?
June 11th, 2010 at 8:49 pmMuslims believe in the Torah.
Muslims refers to the Torah as “Tawrat” (”Law”), an Arabic word for the revelations given to the Islamic prophet “Musa” (”Moses” in Arabic).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah
June 11th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
schumer is wrong,but so was stewart,humiliating helen.and the beat goes on
June 11th, 2010 at 9:00 pmAmerican politicians are going to get injured tripping over one another to see who can be the next one to say something stupid.
June 11th, 2010 at 9:24 pmPalestinians are Semites. Why is Schumer anti-Semite?
June 11th, 2010 at 9:42 pmthis dude is my senator, and he’s really good on every single issue BESIDES israel. when the topic of israel comes up he morphs into a crazed neocon, much like the incredible hulk.
also, if it even matters:
1) collective punishment = ILLEGAL
June 11th, 2010 at 10:00 pm2) blockade on a non-sovereign state = ILLEGAL
3) raiding a civilian ship in international waters = ILLEGAL
4) muslims DO believe in the torah, more than christians do anyway
5) schumer needs to eat a hot bowl of d*cks, to paraphrase ice cube. dude is brushing off the suffering of millions because of his delusional tribalism.
@130: dae says, “How are his remarks any less outrageous than those of Helen Thomas?”
June 11th, 2010 at 10:01 pmExactly my thoughts, dae! And yet you will hear nothing from ANYONE critical of Schumer, except from a few bloggers like some here. And thanks to mauman @ 108 for his quotations from Truman. Truman wasn’t open-minded about everyone, but he did have strong and insightful opinions on many.
If you actually read the article that the article above links to (the one about evidence that hamas is ready for a 2 state solution), you’ll see that, in fact, Hamas wants nothing less than the destruction of Israel. It wants the 1967 borders to start, but it also wants the “right of return,” which basically will turn all of israel into Hamas territory. Forget the right of return of the millions of Jews who’ve been displaced from countries such as Spain, Turkey, Portugal, Egypt, Syria, Iran, Iraq (not to mention Germany, Poland, France, etc in WWII). That’s old news. Fact is, Hamas is a terrorist organization hell bent on destroying Israel. If Mexico elected a gov’t that wanted to destroy the USA, you can be sure we’d be blockading and “starving” them just as quickly. Israel has given back Gaza, pulled out of Lebanon and come to the table time and time again — When the Palestinian leadership shows real commitment to lasting peace (not the 10 years Hamas is ready to “truce”), then there will be a true partnership for peace. Israel hasn’t always acted smartly or fairly, but when you’re dealing with unreasonable people, you’re bound to act unreasonably from time to time.
June 11th, 2010 at 10:06 pmApparantly Shumer really doesnt GET the whole concept of democracy does he? Starve them till they vote the way Israel wanst. I guess he means they should be free to do what they are TOLD.
June 11th, 2010 at 10:16 pmvealpatty
You really dont get it here. First of all the right of return is basic international law. They were forced out they HAVE a right to either return or be compensated. It is that simple. What Hamas is asking has been pretty much the international consensus since the 70’s and IS the framework where negotiations SHOULD begin. THAT is the way towards peace. Its that simple.
The rest of your post is silly. They were FORCED out of Lebanon and thier invasion was illegal to begin with. Israel invaded Lebanon in 82 after a YEAR without a single cross border incident. They invaded Lebanon to destroy the PLO as a POLITICAL, not terrorist, threat as their OWN AMBASSADOR TO THE UN STATED DIRECTLY. Gaza was ALWAYS occupied territory. You act like giving it back was magnanimous. If your neighbor ANNEXED your garage and half your backyard then gave you back SOME of your backyard while keeping your garage and the REST of your backyard just how greatful would YOU be?
You basically spewed Israeli propaganda and showed you really dont understand the issues involved
June 11th, 2010 at 10:21 pmvealpatty–you will note that prior to israel’s pre-emptive invasion of gaza, which involved ISRAEL (not hamas) breaking an agreed-to ceasefire in tank and gunfire, hamas accepted israel’s existence.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3249568,00.html for reference.
it is remarkable to me that anyone paints israel as victims. israel itself is an adventure in colonialism, importing europeans to a foreign land and banishing/killing the natives. my family has been in america since the 1700s, and if any of my ancestors got scalped by a native american i reckon they would have deserved it. people don’t react well to random white people declaring that their vision of the world is the ONLY right one, you see.
June 11th, 2010 at 10:22 pmA two-state solution is not necessarily what is best for Israel and Palestine because it would allow for persecution and racism against Palestinians to continue. A one-state solution is what many Palestinians want (as told to me by someone who has actually gone there and spent time with Palestinians in the West Bank) because then they would be protected under the laws of one country equally. So arguing that the two-state solution is best and that you would even think to *punish* someone for thinking differently is ludicrous. There is a lot of respected thought that a one-state solution would be much better.
That said, Schumer is an idiot and needs to resign for his national security-threatening bias towards Israel. Most Americans, if they had all the facts, would be furious about Israel’s arrogance and cruelty in how they treat the people of Gaza and of the West Bank too. We should not be protecting them or sending them money or weapons because the government of Israel has policies that threaten America’s national security. That is as clear as can be.
June 11th, 2010 at 10:35 pmlets see the palastines dont’t want 2 state solution which means they want to destroy israel,israel doesn’t want a 2 state solution which means they want peace.
June 11th, 2010 at 10:48 pmif you look up the definition of terrorism,its violence used to change a people mind.mr schumer says israel is using hte blockade to convince them to vote how they see.the very definition of terrorism..wow
so israel IS a terrrorist nation
Is it possible to have a religous state that is not racist? Does not racism breed violence. What if judaism,christianity,and the muslim religions are just myths? Than the violence that they perpetuate could be considered evil.
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June 12th, 2010 at 12:46 amRep. Eliot Engel (D-NY) also declared Israel justified in it’s actions, in part: “this ship was filled with hate-filled provocateurs bent on violence. Their aim was not to distribute humanitarian supplies, but to violently force themselves through Israel’s blockade of Gaza.”
Newly released video proves the vessel was not “filled” with violent people, though passengers did violently resist during the IDF’s 4 am boarding of the ship, others included well known peace activists like Ann Wright, reporters, doctors, infants and seniors.
Engel uses neocon-style fearmongering in discussing the incident: “The organizers of the flotilla have alleged links to Hamas and reportedly played a role in the attempted Millennium bombing in Los Angeles.”
Finally, Engel discounts the passengers wholesale: “True humanitarians would not have responded with violence, and no one should ever confuse relief workers with violent instigators.”
In response, a petition has begun circulating within Engel’s home area by voters who have volunteered for Gaza relief in the past.
Though there may have been loose cannons on both sides of the flotilla conflict, Schumer and Engel join talk radio personalities like Sean Hannity in making incendiary distortions many consider hatespeech, discounting out of hand any possibility that Israel exploited human or civil rights.
Engel, Schumer and NY Rep. Anthony Weiner all have defended Israeli “exceptionalism” and voted to fund the US wars in the Mideast, but their analysis of the facts surrounding the flotilla incident is more akin to Israeli propaganda than a sober presentation of the facts, many of which remain in dispute.
At least when Hannity is doing it, the taxpayer isn’t paying to be misled.
June 12th, 2010 at 1:08 ammoslims are a virus, cancer disease, just like illegals. i hope the liberals keep supporting this failed moslim policy., you will be doomed. of course after obomber supports an israeli probe MONDAY, he will kiss ass and suck up to the rich jews during campaign session.
June 12th, 2010 at 1:47 amPalestine is a cause. It has been a neglected cause, because, the greatest super power on the planet earth wishes it to be so. The world conscious is boiling to a point where the good done by this super power is being weighed against the bad it has accumulated over the period just because it does not allow a genuine matter to be resolved according to the majority of the world wishes.
We had thought that Obama will bring a change in the policy of the USA towards the issues of global peace. We were so very wrong. The mid-term election in USA will reflect on the policy matters of the Obama Adminitration, and the Democrats will loose in a big way, but by then it will be too late.
I even cast my doubt that Obama will win even a Dmocratic approval to run for the second term only because he has failed in the initiative which he could have siezed had he put the world on the right course of world view.
Gaza is on world focus. who ever resolves it in the manner it should be addressed will win the applause of the whole world for ever to come.
June 12th, 2010 at 1:48 amWhere did Chuck Schumer learn the acceptability of this practice? From the 1930s-1940s German phenomenon of the Jewish ghetto under siege, “strangled economically” by the Reich?
June 12th, 2010 at 2:04 amThat’s a novel view towards sovereignty there, Sen. Schumer.
Nations are allowed to choose their own government, unless their neighbors disagree.
This is why a blockade along the lines of what Israel is doing is considered an act of war.
June 12th, 2010 at 9:53 amAnd I see 161 is completely drenched in the Kool-Aid. You see all the characteristics of war justification there: demonization of the opponent, excuses for one’s own side, Orwellian redefinition of language (”just war of self-defense”?)
And that’s why the war will continue – not because the Palestinians are the initiators. That may have been true at one point, but the power disparity at this point leads one to conclude that further war is more of a sign of pathological need on the part of Israel and its supporters than of any real military need.
It’s not 1967 any more.
June 12th, 2010 at 9:56 amThis SHMUCK is a SENATOR? !!!!
Little wonder the US has lost respect around the world.
Who on earth does this Putz represent?
June 12th, 2010 at 10:40 amSo Democratic party Sen. Chuck Schumer is also a dumbass who will say or do anything depending on which crowd he’s shrilling to.
June 12th, 2010 at 12:53 pmPass the pop corn, it’s always fun to see a Harliquin mix of ideologies clown aroung with foriegn policy.
As the Jon Stewart Gospel Singers said so well a few weeks ago – to Schumer “GO F*** YOURSELF”…
The sooner the US CUTS OFF ALL AID AND MONEY TO ISRAEL THE BETTER. We don’t work for you AIPAC !!!
June 12th, 2010 at 5:13 pmSchumer talks like a Fascist.
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As for the senator’s comments on economic strangulation making “sense” … Schumer believes it is logical to economically harm the civilian population of Gaza … for freely voting in an election the U.S. supported, then undermined, in order to change the territory’s government. … ”
I think Schumer is way off base on this, but, undermining democratically elected governments isn’t new, and our record on elections is interesting too. Not too long after we helped strangle a democratically elected government in Iran, in the early ’50s, we managed to completely stall a previously mandated nation-wide election in Viet Nam; we all know how those two very popular moves turned out. And our glorious Senate more-or-less went along with those foreign policy adventures – didn’t slap the executive’s wrists or anything like that.
June 13th, 2010 at 1:08 amC U Vaird @ 167 says: This SHMUCK is a SENATOR? !!!! Little wonder the US has lost respect around the world. Who on earth does this Putz represent? June 12th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Just watch out, dude, the Putz’s of the world resent your lumping them into a bag with the turd known as Schumer. They demand respect.
June 13th, 2010 at 1:12 ambarackobomber @ 152 says: moslims are a virus, cancer disease, just like illegals. i hope the liberals keep supporting this failed moslim policy., you will be doomed. of course after obomber supports an israeli probe MONDAY, he will kiss ass and suck up to the rich jews during campaign session. June 12th, 2010 at 1:47 am
ja, one must watch out for them muslins. they be linenists. next thing ya know we’ll be poking around in the bidness of geezers as well as gazars, and not to be surprised at a policy of money sucking from all sources, but especially the ones with money. and damn those viral illegals a cancer on the body politic what with their stealing elections and taking them back to their home countries where they rebuild them with cheap parts and labor and peddle ‘em to the chinee… and never doing a damn thing all day except working in someone else’s garden or garage or washroom on a cash and carry basis – never a frackin’ manana in sight.
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Schumer is a racist self serving pig masquerading as a Democratic Senator.
This “Orthodox Union” fits right in with his self serving racist nature.
June 13th, 2010 at 8:05 pmBTW Chuck I don’t believe in a Two State solution. I believe in a one state solution where those who lived on this supposed area called Israel / Palestine must live together as peers and figure out a way for both to live in peace with the same rights. We do such an arrangement all over the world. The original land owners should have their land and the same rights as do immigrants from elsewhere.
June 13th, 2010 at 8:09 pmThe “starvation” strategy extends to shooting at Palestinian women who try to harvest wheat.
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