Newsweek’s new cover features former Alaska governor Sarah Palin with a halo around her head and the words “Saint Sarah.” The accompanying article by Lisa Miller explores Palin’s popularity with the religious right, especially Christian women. While Miller notes the feminist criticisms directed at Palin and wonders about her “real motivations,” the article is certainly not a hit piece. “With her new faith-based message, Palin gathers up the Christian women that traditional feminism has left behind,” writes Miller.
But Palin wouldn’t know all this, because she hasn’t read the article. Nevertheless, on Friday, she went on the Fox News show of her good friend Greta Van Susteren and slammed it:
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, who could forget that infamous Newsweek cover? It shows Governor Sarah Palin in short shorts, running shorts. Well, check out Newsweek’s latest Palin cover. Things are a little different this time. It shows Governor Palin with a halo over her head. The headline, “Saint Sarah.” Now, the article’s about Governor Palin’s appeal to conservative Christian women.
Governor Palin is back with us. Governor, what do you make of the new cover? Now it’s Saint Sarah?
PALIN: Haven’t seen it, but if the title and what I hear about the content is any indication of where Newsweek is going, it’s no wonder that Newsweek is doing so poorly. People are not reading that stuff. It’s not relevant. It’s not interesting stuff that they’re making up and writing. And that’s why they’re going down.
Watch it:
On Twitter, the Washington Post’s Howard Kurtz criticized Palin for mocking it before reading it. “My point on Palin is, read the Newsweek piece and then rip it,” he wrote. “Rip Newsweek too, fair game. Cover WAS mocking. But engage on the substance.”
What makes Palin’s criticism even more ridiculous is that she has sharply reprimanded critics of Arizona’s anti-immigration law who haven’t read the full legislation. From her Facebook page on May 18:
On Fox News this morning, State Department Spokesman P.J. Crowley became the third Obama administration official in short succession to admit that he hadn’t actually bothered to read Arizona’s 10-page long “secure the border” bill before condemning it and criticizing Americans who support Arizona’s necessary efforts to do the job the Obama Administration should be doing. Crowley’s statement follows similar admissions from Attorney General Eric Holder and Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano.
At first blush this revelation seemed unbelievable, but maybe I shouldn’t be surprised. This now seems “the Washington way” of doing things. If the party in power tells us they have to pass bills in order to find out what’s actually in them, they can also criticize bills (and divide the country with ensuing rhetoric) without actually reading them.
Maybe she didn’t get a chance to see the story because she’s too busy reading every single newspaper in the world.
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Maybe you should read the story, Sarah.
You know, along with all the other newspapers and magazines that you read. You remember them, right? ALL OF THEM?
Miss Pathetic Palin has long worn out her 15 minutes of fame.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:18 pmI am sure slimy sarah read neither. what’s she b!tching about?
June 14th, 2010 at 3:19 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Bimbostien is a national embarassment. When will she do the decent thing and just go away.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:23 pmGeorge/PatheticPatrick
Bullet. Trollskull.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:24 pmPoor pitiful Sarah. Forever the victim. Who could have ever foreseen that victimhoodism makes your boobies swell.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:24 pmSlimy Sarah consistently derides the mainstream media yet repeatedly solicits their attention like a common streetwalker then turns around and attacks them. pretty soon, slimy sarah won’t have an outlet other than pox to spread her propoganda. wait, is that a bad thing?
June 14th, 2010 at 3:24 pmHoward Kurtz criticized Palin for mocking it before reading it. “My point on Palin is, read the Newsweek piece and then rip it,” he wrote. “Rip Newsweek too, fair game. Cover WAS mocking. But engage on the substance.”
Asking Sarah Palin to engage on the substance is like asking Dairy Queen to concentrate on steamed vegetables. Not gonna happen.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:27 pm@6
Ha!!! Too true!!!
June 14th, 2010 at 3:27 pmspeaking of palin….:
Palin in Talks to Meet Thatcher
Is she trying to appear Raygun like for ‘12?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/item/palin-in-talks-to-meet-thatcher/tea-party/
June 14th, 2010 at 3:28 pm“With her new faith-based message, Palin gathers up the Christian women that traditional feminism has left behind,” writes Miller.
Christian women were not left behind. They chose not to become associated with feminist groups because of philosophical differences. Palin gathers up these Christian women because they think Palin is principled rather than a money grubber. You can’t change the opinions of people who are willfully ignorant; only they can change themselves.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:29 pmIsn’t false prophecy a sign of the anti-christ? Fooling the masses with a good message laced with alterior motives is how the anti-christ converts followers of the truth.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:30 pmSarah Palin? Criticizing a Newsweek story she hasn’t even read?
No one could have predicted!
June 14th, 2010 at 3:30 pmThis is how the right brainwashes their followers…everyone else is lying or making things up.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:31 pmon Friday, {Palin} went on the Fox News show of her good friend Greta Van Susteren…
– - The Van Susteren interview is a gem, with “boobgate” quotes like this:
“What am I going to wear so that nobody will look in an area that I don’t need them to look at?” – Sarah Palin.
A woman who does her bogus Q&A sessions sitting in a skirt so short that she can’t even shift in the chair without threatening to show her “political credentials” and one half expects her to simulate the leg cross scene from Basic Instinct….Who shows up for a rally for special needs children wearing a tiny jean skirt more appropriate for her teenage daughters and sky high strappy “take me boys” sandals with elaborately sparkled show girl toenails….who appeared at Belmont, arriving late to be sure to be noticed, wearing inappropriate clothing including a black bra under a figure forming white shirt – well the problem isn’t that she doesn’t want them to look. It’s that she wants them to look, so she can then cry “sexist”.
She creates the situation she wants to gripe about. It’s intentional. It’s a way of appearing faux “feminist” while also displaying the wares that got every golddigger in history a sugardaddy. It’s a way of controlling her product messaging.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:31 pmPALIN: It’s not relevant. It’s not interesting stuff that they’re making up and writing. And that’s why they’re going down.
Claims the dimwit who is in a political party that has around an 18% approval rating ………..
June 14th, 2010 at 3:31 pmDont’cha just love Sarah, our lady of incoherent babble
June 14th, 2010 at 3:32 pmRead??? Saint Sarah???
Oh, pulllleeeese…
Don’t you remember, she reads ALL the whatchamathingys.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:32 pmlet’s face it, you could give slimy sarah a bag of orgasms and she’d find something to b!tch about
June 14th, 2010 at 3:33 pmThe simplest assumption is that Bible Spice reads at about the third grade level in any case so Newsweek is beyond her comprehension.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:33 pmSaint Sarah, patron saint of whiny morons.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:33 pmDaddy-O says:
Sarah Palin? Criticizing a Newsweek story she hasn’t even read?
No one could have predicted!
LOL>>> have they found out if she can read at all yet? or just parrot whats told to her.
i say its the parrot one myself.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:33 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Palin basks in ignorance – in fact, she thrives on it. And the people that support her do so willingly. The woman almost has a cult following!
June 14th, 2010 at 3:35 pmIMO, Sarah Palin writes nothing herself . .
Maybe, twitter???
Ever hear her answer a question spontaneously?? Little different from her writings. Two/three sylable words aren’t in her vocabulary . .
June 14th, 2010 at 3:35 pmBTW, how long has it been since a person was Sanctified for fighting against “witches, demons, and evil spirits”?
June 14th, 2010 at 3:35 pmLisa Miller is on MSNBC right now ……..
June 14th, 2010 at 3:36 pmThanks for That Thing, John McCain.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:36 pmstuff i dont read or hear. palins words.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:37 pmand ffs stop putting the title governor in front of her name alaska has a new governor.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:38 pmHow can she be a saint if she needed that witchdoctor to exorcise her demons back in Alaska?
June 14th, 2010 at 3:39 pmLisa Miller just claimed that those (retarded) women who worship Princess Caribou are willing to ‘overlook’ her lack of intelligence/inability to grasp the intricacies of the issues ; doesn’t that pretty much sum up why these religious yokels should be ruled ineligible to vote , much less hold office ?
June 14th, 2010 at 3:42 pmOf course, Sarah is the victim here. The news media is out to get her because she is such a breath of fresh air.
We know that a magazine would never run a cover satirizing the Obama family. Especially not the elitists like the New Yorker.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:42 pmSarah doesn’t mind being a hypocrite. She just loves the attention. She’s essentially a troll.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:43 pmSarah who?
Wasn’t she that scatter brained former governor of Alaska who quit because of the mean liberal media asked her too many tough questions, when she really quit so that she could make more money seeking attention in the lower 48?
Last I heard she ran off with her witchdoctor pal after learning that she wasn’t Trigs biological mother.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:43 pmMCMetal says:
Lisa Miller is on MSNBC right now……
Yea, I saw it; she was saying how much the Evangel. women love their (false) prophet Sarah.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:44 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
12, Bob,
Actually, the good book says to stone the false prophet.
I’m not advocating anything. Instead, I’m looking forward to her doing it to herself – once her balloon bursts, there are gonna be a crowd of Palinites who are very disillusioned.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:45 pmsoldierSTUPID
If we could possibly have the thread without ignorant brainwashed pieces of shit like YOU clogging it up with lies, stupidity and talking points so stupid a three year old would be embarassed by them that would be a good thing
June 14th, 2010 at 3:46 pmShould have added, the presence of false prophets is something that was predicted to be continuous till the second coming (depending on where you place the sequence of millinium, rapture, tribulation, etc.).
June 14th, 2010 at 3:46 pmLet’s ask Todd’s former business parter how much of a ’saint’ Sarah really is?
June 14th, 2010 at 3:48 pmYou would think Sarah would love the story. I mean, look at the cover. She ALWAYS thought she was a ‘God’.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:48 pmI see another imbecile suffering from Palin Adoration Syndrome (a debilitating disease that renders everyone afflicted with it a mindless , suckhole stooge) , has permeated the thread ……..
June 14th, 2010 at 3:48 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
soldieragainstprogressives says:
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Let PDS begin! (Palin Derangement Syndrome)
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So that’s what’s wrong with Palin..She’s deranged.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:51 pmPDS must be catchy to only conservatives.
I’m sorry, but why are they calling her “Governor” Palin?
June 14th, 2010 at 3:51 pmBob says:
Isn’t false prophecy a sign of the anti-christ? Fooling the masses with a good message laced with alterior motives is how the anti-christ converts followers of the truth
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You do know that you have just exposed the whole truth behind the religious right and the GOP in a nutshell, don’t you?
Just don’t let the trolls know that these alterior motives are also behind why they worship and staunchily defend free market capitalism and corporatism, while promoting their version of Christianity which has nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus Christ?
June 14th, 2010 at 3:52 pmjust what kind of analyst doesnt do any analyzing before commenting on something.
a sad and partisan one.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:53 pmWas she wearing a towel? Because nothing complements a halo like a good ole fashion conservative bath towel.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:55 pmpalin couldnt cause me mental distress if she was sigmund freud.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:56 pmLOL! Read? Why would she READ? The woman is as dumb as a bag of hair and has the personality that matches.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:57 pmalpuz3 says:
Was she wearing a towel? Because nothing complements a halo like a good ole fashion conservative bath towel.
She threw that in long ago…
June 14th, 2010 at 3:57 pma governor regulates something. engine speed, pressure. a mouth.
see its a broken governor. they just forgot to add that.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:58 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
For the life of me I don’t know what you guys have against Sarah. Everyone knows why she has not read Newsweek.
Looking over at Russia from her backyard with the binoculars is a full time job. So cut her some freakin slack
June 14th, 2010 at 3:59 pmyes, my guts in knots from the non ending material they emit.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:01 pmcomedy material
June 14th, 2010 at 4:01 pmIsn’t it unfair that Sarah Palin, Gov. Perry, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and George W. Bush are so extraordinarily successful in tying so many “bleacher bum” stomachs in such extremely tight knots while they’re on the field, so relaxed and influential, just counting their political accomplishments?
What “accomplishments” , jackass ?
Most consecutive times speaking without ever telling the truth ?
Wow , what an ‘honor’ ………..SHADDAP
June 14th, 2010 at 4:03 pmThank goodness the November mid-terms will be such a landslide for progressives — you know, like June was, and Massachusetts, New Jersey and West Virginia were a couple of months ago.
LOL>>> what you talking about? only one that got voted into CONGRESS was Mass senator, which LOL again seems to have been dropped by the GOT-P.
so hows that tea bagger from MA working out for you all?
June 14th, 2010 at 4:04 pmIC: Yes, the religious right and the GOP in a nutshell: That describes Scara to a ‘tea’.
Funny stuff.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:05 pmRepugs are pure jackass, you trolls are the same group of clowns.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:06 pmlemme see…pollitical accomplishments:
bush tarp plan gm bailout = failure
rush limbaugh chaos plan = failure
palin 4 years as governor of alask = failure
palin getting elected to vice prez = failure
glenn beck 912 political movement = failure
rick perry [governor in texas is a figure head [failure job]
June 14th, 2010 at 4:06 pmBeethovenSUX
Wow an ignorant post by a troll. What a shock
June 14th, 2010 at 4:06 pmThe trolls arguments are getting more and more inane. And I wouldn’t call his roster of goons ‘Accomplished’
June 14th, 2010 at 4:06 pm“Despite Hitting Critics Who Didn’t Read SB-1070, Palin Condemns Newsweek Story Without Even Seeing It”
which kinda brings us to another point.
she did not read SB-1070 either.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:07 pmBut I thought Sarah read “all of them”.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:07 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
LongSTUPID
They are all successful at throwing red meat to the stupidest people in the world…Like YOU. That is their only success. Liberals love to laugh at them. We are astonished at how morons like YOU think being ignorant, talking shit, tossing out racist, ignorant, divisive nonsense pushes the buttons of ignoramuses like YOU so completely
June 14th, 2010 at 4:09 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Teabagger success:
June 14th, 2010 at 4:11 pmBig bucks, big house, big image
Big space between ears
Yes there is a market for morons telling other morons like LongSTUPID what to think. I think it is the fifth sign of the apocalypse
June 14th, 2010 at 4:11 pmlongredbillions @ 54:
political accomplishments: Sarah, Rush, Glen????????? Really?
Thank goodness the November mid-terms will be such a landslide for progressives — you know, like June was, and Massachusetts, New Jersey and West Virginia were a couple of months ago:
Massachusetts: Scott Brown is already a traitor in the eyes of the Tea Party Movement for voting to allow banking reform legislation to move forward.
New Jersey: Mainly attributed to Jon Corzines ties to Goldman Sachs.
West Virginia: Historically a red state, no big upset or a reflection on the sway of the tea party.
Now you can spin things all you want to feel confident but do it at your own peril. Good luck in November, you and your party will need it!
June 14th, 2010 at 4:11 pm“One woman should not have so much power as Palin does. She’s so dumb with her growing millions, her large loving family, her beautiful home, her millions of feminist fans, her handsome husband, her influence on local and state elections outside of Alaska, her television appearances whenever she wants them, and so on.”
I have no real problem with you liking her. We’re free to disagree on that.
That said, some of this is kind of just plain weird.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:11 pmlongredbillions says:
How many names have you posted on this site under now?
June 14th, 2010 at 4:12 pmHow many names, robo?
@69
VD just for being a lame ass excuse of a cult troll spam bot.
awwww the begging and crying for attention from a wacko lover cult troll spam bot. kinda sounds like its a lonely bot as well.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:12 pmLongSTUPID
When do you have time to lick anthills. All your time is spent blowing crackheads at the bus stop and posting lies and stupidity on this site
June 14th, 2010 at 4:13 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
longredbillions says:
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Palin speaks and it’s like kicking an ant hill.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Because only incoherent insects can understand her ridiculous gibberish…Good point , skid mark
June 14th, 2010 at 4:13 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
It’s been a week since the last Bible Spice story. That kind of argues against the trollish complaints that TP is all about her.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:14 pmlongredbillions says:
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Did Palin endorse Alvin Green, the new Democratic Party spokesman for progressives in South Carolina?
Maybe progressives thought he was the soul singer. That would explain his election victory just as well.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
That’s quite amusing and ironic , considering the Cancervative ‘hero’ for all time was a shitty B-movie actor ….And who was an even shittier president , tool….
June 14th, 2010 at 4:14 pmWell, longred… I guess it’s true. One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:15 pmLongSTUPID
Sure and maybe some day you will grow a brain. And maybe I will grow wings and fly to the moon. My GOD you are stupid
June 14th, 2010 at 4:15 pmpalin speaks and i am reminded of the monkey house at the local zoo.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:15 pmThe Swag-Hag has turned into such a screech machine lately it’s amazing… and irritating at the same time..we got better things to do with any spare cycles we have in our lives other than listen to this screech job spew…
BUT, this ‘reporter’ Lisa Miller who wrote the Newsweek piece, was just on MSNBC and she sounded like someone that 1) Had just gotten off a book-tour bus ride that had lasted 60 day and stopped (but didn’t let the riders out) in over 1000 ‘towns’, and 2) She had gone to the Swag-Hag’s place in Alaska and had been swilling the Swag-Hag go-juice KoolAide for weeks ! It was, at best, an awful spectacle of High-Heal envy, Re-modeled fence worship, or pure brain-draining whackjobbery that this poor woman was falling all over herself to tell the world why she thought the Swag-Hag was the next visitor from the stars!! It was AWFUL..
June 14th, 2010 at 4:15 pm“But engage on the substance.”
Coming from Quitter Palin, this means absolutely nothing.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:15 pm@ 72
Invictus. Longred is way off base. Virginia is the state that elected a GOP governor a few months ago. Not West Virginia
June 14th, 2010 at 4:15 pmLongSTUPID
That is very PATHETIC of you. Typical
June 14th, 2010 at 4:15 pmBimbostien knows less about substance than our trolls know about factual reality
June 14th, 2010 at 4:17 pmXisithrus says:
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palin speaks and i am reminded of the monkey house at the local zoo.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Not necessarily …….The monkey shit fights inside make a helluva’ lot more sense …..
June 14th, 2010 at 4:17 pmentertaining. smelly. shrieking. swinging.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:17 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
longredbillions says:
So it’s not like I don;t understand your point of view here.
Well apparently you do.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:19 pmlongredbillions says:
So it’s not like I don;t understand your point of view here.
Luis Chapulin M says:
Well apparently you do.
(Dammit… pressed the wrong key)
Well apparently you do. You just ignore it.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:21 pmHey shortskid
Palin’s kid went into the military to avoid jail/prison time , stooge ……
As for her TV ’show’ ; it’s right up there in terms of sincerity and believability as Jerry Springer , but with less intelligence ……
June 14th, 2010 at 4:22 pmyanno, when i laugh at something its not because i hate it sot.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:22 pmThe rush to prove right-whiner double-standards continues unabated!
Fmr. Gov. Palin DEMANDS that others read something before they condemn it.
Fmr. Gov. Palin DEMANDS that she can condemn anything before she reads it.
This is just the latest example of right-whiner double-standards!
June 14th, 2010 at 4:22 pmSo it’s not like I don;t understand your point of view here.
Great,,, just what is your point of view? do you really have any thing to add? could you give me just one (real) accomplishment she has ever made for others and NOT HERSELF!?
I would wait but seeing theres none i will just go on. so feel free to refute me.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:22 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
My “dumb-fcuk-ometer” was pegged before I finished reading the headline of this blog post.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:23 pmLongSTUPID
You DONT understand our pint of view. You dont understand ANYTHING. You are stupid. You are so stupid you didnt even know the definition of democracy. You only know what you are told to think. You are just that pathetic. There is no hatred of Palin. She is an object of pity. Her stupid is amusing. That she impresses incredibly stupid morons like you is astonishing. We find it interesting but we find her embarassing. Actual human beings in other countries might think NORMAL HUMAN AMERICANS are stupid enough to take her seriously
June 14th, 2010 at 4:23 pmreal american stories. isnt that the show where she uses old interviews and repositions herself as the interviewee..but is just talking to an empty stage set?
June 14th, 2010 at 4:23 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
“That very white of you.”
What does that even mean?
June 14th, 2010 at 4:24 pmGeorge McMichael says:
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Their problem is that they can’t see beyond her lovely boobs and realize what an incredible brain she has.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Tough to see something that’s constantly being used to sit on ….
June 14th, 2010 at 4:24 pmi could care less if palin did or did not get a boob job. put down your 8 color biggie size crayon box sot.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:25 pmGeorge/PatheticPatrick
I accuse you of being a pathetic punkass troll wasting our precious oxygen. You know higher lifeforms capable of actual brain function could be using that oxygen
June 14th, 2010 at 4:25 pm“The liberals accuse Governor Sarah Palin of having her boobs enlarged. Their problem is that they can’t see beyond her lovely boobs and realize what an incredible brain she has.”
So the liberals, while also trying to institute communism in this country, also run a blog about boobs?
Those rumors weren’t from any sort of liberal think tank or something.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:26 pmspeaking of persevere..
thats not quitting.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:26 pmLongred needs to learn the difference between contempt and “hatred.”
June 14th, 2010 at 4:26 pmkdawg says:
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MCMetal says:
longredbillions says:
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Did Palin endorse Alvin Green, the new Democratic Party spokesman for progressives in South Carolina?
Maybe progressives thought he was the soul singer. That would explain his election victory just as well.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
That’s quite amusing and ironic , considering the Cancervative ‘hero’ for all time was a shitty B-movie actor ….And who was an even shittier president , tool
You are entitled to your opinion but quite a few historians will beg to differ with you on that one. About the president part of course,
June 14th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
There is not a ONE who is not a conservative-leaning tool that believes Ronnie Retard’s presidency was anything other than total garbage …….And it was crap
June 14th, 2010 at 4:26 pmmargarine says:
“That very white of you.”
What does that even mean?
it dont mean any thing other then he`s a jerk scum wad racist coward.
So just VD and flag for being racist.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:27 pmThe phrase is “that’s mighty white of you”. It’s a writing device known as “internal rhyme”.
Home schooling failed you again I see.
But we expect trolls to, daily, exercise their abhorrent ignorance.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:29 pmLongred needs to learn the difference between contempt and “hatred.”
Wishful thinking!
I doubt he could find his arse with a map and a flashlight.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:30 pmWhat?? She didn’t read it?
But…but…but… she reads everything, right?
June 14th, 2010 at 4:30 pmI don’t know of a serious conservative who wants Palin on the ‘12 ticket. She was a nightmare in 2008. What is it that she is going to learn in 4 years? I didn’t like the MCCain/Palin ticket to begin with. But then to quit as governor before your term is even finished. I think that was the kiss of death on her presidential aspirations (hopefully).
A few conservatives see her as lobbing bombs at the left wing and pissing them off. I don’t even think in her own stupidity she could accomplish that feat.
I cannot believe her 15 minutes is not up yet.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:30 pmyou see, sot, hate is an emotion. thinking people dont use emotions to come to decisions. hate isnt thinking.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:30 pmPALIN/STEELE 2016
June 14th, 2010 at 4:32 pmWho cares about Palin’s boobs? Big or small?
If we could just focus on the substance of Palin’s political message, we’d find there’s very little to discuss.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:32 pmSARAH WHO?
June 14th, 2010 at 4:33 pmXis
I dont think any rational human being is going to accuse RoboMORON/LongSTUPID of being a thinking person
June 14th, 2010 at 4:33 pm“If we could just focus on the substance of Palin’s political message, we’d find there’s very little to discuss.”
Yup. Which is why TP, a political site, focuses on political things she says, including BS posturing like she did here. But apparently talking about her at all means we’re scared of her beauty, large family and handsome husband.
That and I’m “very white”.
Guess I was put in my place.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:34 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
kdawg says:
I don’t know of a serious conservative who wants Palin on the ‘12 ticket.
I don’t either but if the non serious ones want to pretend, that’s fine with me.
Palin is nothing but good for Dem’s chances.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:35 pmIn general, the amount of appeal to the right in a Republican regressive candidate is 100% inversely proportional to their value in a leadership role.
Because their idea is to elect anyone who sucks at governing.
They hate government so much, they’d rather the American dream be flushed once and for all than to admit they’re just in over their heads.
LEAD, FOLLOW, OR GET THE HELL OUTTA THE WAY…
June 14th, 2010 at 4:36 pmLongred needs to learn.
There, Zooey. Fixed it for ya, my friend. ;)
June 14th, 2010 at 4:37 pmoh i would never accuse cybil sot of thnking. i was suggesting it is an emotional being confusing its hate with thinking.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:37 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
kdawg says:
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@ 111
The man helped end the Cold War without firing a shot. He also helped pull the US out of the recession from the late 70’s. 2 big accomplishments right there.
But he did spend unlike the conservative he proclaimed himself to be. That was one of his biggest faults.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Johnson , Nixon , Ford and Carter were just as important in ending the Cold War ; any claim that it was Ronnie Retard , and he alone that was responsible for that , is typical GOP bullshit rhetoric.
As for his “ending” the recession left over from the ’70’s , that is simply UNTRUE ; it was CARTER’S economic policy that steadied our teetering economy …..
June 14th, 2010 at 4:39 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Patty cakes makes doody, mistakes it for chocolate…
More news at 11.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:40 pmThe man helped end the Cold War without firing a shot. He also helped pull the US out of the recession from the late 70’s. 2 big accomplishments right there.
But he did spend unlike the conservative he proclaimed himself to be. That was one of his biggest faults.
He had nothing to do with the collapse of the Soviet Union. His CIA at the time was asking for increased military spending, to counter “the Soviet threat.”
It was mere coincidence that he was in office at the time.
And he spent like a typical conservative, with no “conservatives” complaining about his spendthrift ways.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:40 pmGeorge McMichael says:
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Struck a big, fat liberal nerve with that one, didn’t I?
June 14th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
NOPE ….You merely posted your (typically stupid) GOP bullshit rhetoric …..
June 14th, 2010 at 4:41 pmStruck a big, fat liberal nerve with that one, didn’t I?
No, not really. I just find it amusing that you think The Stylist and The Boob Job Bible count as liberal news sites.
Fact is, I’d be surprised if many random people even ever heard of that. I sure didn’t, but then again I’m not obsessed with boobs and celebrities.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:41 pmsuch a long post to iggy. why bother gm?
June 14th, 2010 at 4:42 pm41. RUCerious says, “Let’s ask Todd’s former business parter how much of a ’saint’ Sarah really is?”
May I suggest adding the supposed father of Sarah’s grandchild ??
June 14th, 2010 at 4:43 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
The man helped end the Cold War without firing a shot. -=sot=-
well, we are talking about a cold war and that means without actual combat. thats why they called it the cold war when it started.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:45 pmits a sin to covet another mans wife sot
June 14th, 2010 at 4:45 pmYou know, the truth is that the very first I heard that there was even a rumor that Sarah Palin had breast implants was when she announced that there was no truth to the rumor that she had breast implants. That was the very first I heard about that. I heard nothing serious prior to that announcement by her.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:46 pmGeorge McMichael says:
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The math. Lovely boobs. Brilliant brain. Governor Sarah Palin.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
You’re apparently not a math major …..What state is she the governor of , nitwit ?
June 14th, 2010 at 4:46 pmShe could have lead our country….
…like GW BUSH only worse.
G. McMichael wants Sarah to take a stool on his face.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:46 pmwait. why would a brilliant brain write talking points on its physical palm.
care to elaborate on this phenom sot?
June 14th, 2010 at 4:46 pmHeh! I just found a new word that describes Bible Spice and her worshipers.
TALIBANGELISTS!
June 14th, 2010 at 4:47 pmspeaking of cold war. why didnt bush cheney persue the same path with iraq and afghanistan if it were so successful?
[btw many shots were fired in the cold war thru reagans 'freedom fighters' [[fighting against the russians in afghanistan]]
June 14th, 2010 at 4:50 pmInterestingly, it was Reagan’s spending that can be largely credited with the collapse of the Soviet Union, since their determination to keep up militarily played a huge part in the failure of their economy and wider empire.
So you celebrate one achievement yet despair at another that made the first possible.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:52 pmWayne A. Schneider says:
There, Zooey. Fixed it for ya, my friend. ;)
D’oh!!
Thanks, Wayne.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:54 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
So you celebrate one achievement yet despair at another that made the first possible.
You see, ralph, you just don;t have enough cognitive dissonance in your brain to appreciate just how great Reagan was !
BTW, Reagan is dead.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:54 pmYeah, the great raygun.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:54 pmKnow what I remember. The rich slobbering up the gravy raygun gave them at the expense of everyone else.
Thousands of fellow auto workers looking up at pages and pages of layoffs.
Illegal operations resulting in untold deaths in Central America.
The start of the boom of the haves. And the economic benefits raygun gave them.
tony and lido
I may get blasted for this, but what’s really interesting about this site is that somone can post the same crap a troll posts and only get a few votes down, because he’s reasonable.
“reasonable”
June 14th, 2010 at 4:55 pmMCMetal says:
kdawg says:
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@ 111
The man helped end the Cold War without firing a shot. He also helped pull the US out of the recession from the late 70’s. 2 big accomplishments right there.
But he did spend unlike the conservative he proclaimed himself to be. That was one of his biggest faults.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Johnson , Nixon , Ford and Carter were just as important in ending the Cold War ; any claim that it was Ronnie Retard , and he alone that was responsible for that , is typical GOP bullshit rhetoric.
Notice in my statement I said he ‘helped’. Never said he was SOLELY responsible
As for his “ending” the recession left over from the ’70’s , that is simply UNTRUE ; it was CARTER’S economic policy that steadied our teetering economy …..
Exactly what was it that Carter did in his economic policy?? Unemployment was climbing at the end of Carter and continued the first 2 years or so under Reagan before we saw improvement.
barfly says:
The man helped end the Cold War without firing a shot. He also helped pull the US out of the recession from the late 70’s. 2 big accomplishments right there.
But he did spend unlike the conservative he proclaimed himself to be. That was one of his biggest faults.
He had nothing to do with the collapse of the Soviet Union. His CIA at the time was asking for increased military spending, to counter “the Soviet threat.”
It was mere coincidence that he was in office at the time.
HE just HAPPENED to be in office when that happened. Great argument barfly. That statement says it all
June 14th, 2010 at 4:56 pm119
Is this that ‘news’ you were talking about?
June 14th, 2010 at 4:57 pmralph the wonder llama, official spokesllama for a Troll-Free America™ says:
kdawg says:
@ 111
The man helped end the Cold War without firing a shot. He also helped pull the US out of the recession from the late 70’s. 2 big accomplishments right there.
But he did spend unlike the conservative he proclaimed himself to be. That was one of his biggest faults.
Interestingly, it was Reagan’s spending that can be largely credited with the collapse of the Soviet Union, since their determination to keep up militarily played a huge part in the failure of their economy and wider empire.
So you celebrate one achievement yet despair at another that made the first possible
And their in lies the conundrum ralph
June 14th, 2010 at 4:57 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
This comment has been voted down. Click to read.
It looks like you are projecting in more ways than one.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:58 pm“Alaska, nitwit.”
She’s not governor of Alaska. And I’d say if you’re ever going to quit a position, you shouldn’t be called by that position’s title anymore. Had she finished the term, I don’t think you’d see anyone contending that.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:59 pm(ralph tips his cap to kdawg)
June 14th, 2010 at 5:00 pm“Yup, guess you lunatics were right, America must have hated ole’ “Raygun” so much.”
They say hindsight is 20/20, but what can you do. People who voted for Bush now claim he was terrible and not a “true conservative”, but he won twice and got on the ballot both times all the same.
Voting for something does not say much of anything about what happens the next four years.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:01 pmokay. why would i hate an old guy who could memorize a script. he did give you scott brown yanno.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:01 pmdietrich says:
Yeah, the great raygun.
Know what I remember. The rich slobbering up the gravy raygun gave them at the expense of everyone else.
Thousands of fellow auto workers looking up at pages and pages of layoffs.
Illegal operations resulting in untold deaths in Central America.
The start of the boom of the haves. And the economic benefits raygun gave them.
tony and lido
I may get blasted for this, but what’s really interesting about this site is that somone can post the same crap a troll posts and only get a few votes down, because he’s reasonable
I can always count on my admirer can’t I dietrich. Tell you what. Google greatest Presidents of the 20th century and see how historians rank Reagan. Of course you will just deem them Republican historians to fit your point of view
I am not claiming Reagan to be perfect. I think Clinton was a good President. He had his scandals and faults as well. All Presidents do.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:03 pmYou’re apparently not a math major …..What state is she the governor of , nitwit ? -=msm=-
Alaska, nitwit. -=gm=-
the correct answer would be none. she is a former governor of alyeska
June 14th, 2010 at 5:03 pmBesides, the man had Alzhimers’,probably for at least the last year and a half of his presidency.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:04 pmIn a way, it was pathetic the way some of his ’supporters’
used him as a puppet.
tony and lido
http://www.physorg.com/news195735756.html
Scientists locate oil plume extending toward Dry Tortuga
for those that actually read =]
June 14th, 2010 at 5:05 pmPalin gives you “wood”.
MOOSE!!
June 14th, 2010 at 5:06 pmI will venture to guess that if Ms Palin were interviewed by a non-faux journalist that it would become evident fairly quickly that she to has not read SB 1070 or the Newsweek article.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:08 pmits true. the cia began an economical war with russia before reagan was even elected.
i would tell you all about it but after all the sot dings ive been *drink*ing
June 14th, 2010 at 5:09 pmI sometimes get the impression that our troll friends are doing their best to provide illustrations for, and prove the accuracy of Poe’s law:
June 14th, 2010 at 5:11 pmWithout a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won’t mistake for the real thing.
I don’t know if there’s a corollary or exemption for self-parody but almost any thread about Princess Sparkle Caribou- the Temptress of the Tundra brings out the best, the wingiest and nuttiest of wingnut world.
i think it was a huge mistake to use dispersants in the oil at the bop. dispersants at that pressure depth, like a gas, would expand as they rise. ie the dispersants dispersed.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:11 pmI already know you have a giant brain, you don’t have to impress me anymore,mrkdawg.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:12 pmAnyways, I don’t remember mentioning any names in my comment.
tony and lido
I guess then that explains why we elected Bush Sr. his VP. It’s cause we hated ole’ Raygun.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:15 pmThe Democrats have their problems, sure. They like to run people that even a lot of Democratic voters don’t really care for. I think that’s Bush Sr’s real reason for winning there.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:17 pmkdawg says:
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MCMetal says:
kdawg says:
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@ 111
As for his “ending” the recession left over from the ’70’s , that is simply UNTRUE ; it was CARTER’S economic policy that steadied our teetering economy …..
Exactly what was it that Carter did in his economic policy?? Unemployment was climbing at the end of Carter and continued the first 2 years or so under Reagan before we saw improvement.
June 14th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Unemployment under Carter was 7% in ‘77 , 6% in ‘78 , UNDER 6% in ‘79 and reached a high of 7.18% in ‘80 ; the lowest Ronnie Retard achieved was 5.5% in his last year , when the deficit and his garbage “Trickle Down Your Leg” economic theory started showing its true form ….Carter inherited a TERRIBLE economy under Ford ; he got it under control , only to have the B-movie star completely fu(k it up (as ALL GOP presidents tend to do)
June 14th, 2010 at 5:20 pmkdawg says:
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I can always count on my admirer can’t I dietrich. Tell you what. Google greatest Presidents of the 20th century and see how historians rank Reagan. Of course you will just deem them Republican historians to fit your point of view
June 14th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Show us one historian that isn’t a cancervative that refers to Ronnie Retard’s presidency as “great” , and then maybe you’ll be believed……
June 14th, 2010 at 5:22 pmI graduated High school in ‘78, and way back in 76 or 77 in a history class we discussed the Soviet Union and way before Reagan became president our teacher said the theory was that the Soviet Union would collapse economically without us and them ever trading a shot. So there is an argument to be made that Regan was simply the beneficiary of the times.
Unfortunately he also, even before he left office, was and is the beneficiary of a ceaseless campaign to deify him. Get something named in every state after him, then every county of every state. Ultimately the Regan Legacy project wants something named in every municipality for him if possible. The credit him for great things, and ignore things like Lebanon and today’s current situation. They take his quote about deficits not mattering (made in a political sense, not fiscal) and turn that into an excuse to spend the crap out of republican administrations, yet somehow those deficits matter tremendously when a democrat is in office. Iran Contra to Reaganites is a nothing blip on the radar, a president taking power back from congress, while whitewater to them is the height of government corruption. His devoted followers cling desperately to the notion that tax cuts spur tax revenues and growth while ignoring the reality that they do not. If they did we should be in the midst of the greatest growth spurt in US history since the Bush era cuts were the largest ever. Simply put to them Reagan was a superman who did no wrong, whose administration was a golden era of US history, when in reality it was an average to slightly above average presidency with warts and blemishes that have yet to be fully exposed.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:24 pmeasy for simple sarah to sit back the throw stones,
since she’s never actually done anything,
except quit.
nonetheless, it’s funny that so many dummies get riled up and flock to her defense.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:34 pmoh wait – i forgot…
she did get alaskans’ free money checks enlarged,
and stab a lot of AK R’s in the back.
so that’s something.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:35 pmHE just HAPPENED to be in office when that happened. Great argument barfly. That statement says it all
I will give him credit for the START treaty, but he was clueless about the fall of the Soviet Union. Your attempt at making it seem as if he were responsible is laughable.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:37 pmAnd you’re nothing but a big, stupid, liberal vuvuzela, tombaker.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:42 pmYup, guess you lunatics were right, America must have hated ole’ “Raygun” so much.
We said he was superfluous to the fall of the Soviet Union. In your anxiety, you created a strawman; deal with your lack of intellectual honesty.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:42 pmIdiot, you’re watching too much MSLSD.
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet
Run a query from 1970 to 2010.
Under Ford the unemployment was already trending down. Unemployment started going back up after 1979 under JIMMY CARTER.
It was “Raygun” who inherited a TERRIBLE economy under Carter.
Add in high interest rates and inflation. These all came down under Reagan. Seem that Iranian hostage crisis was a Carter thing too, and oh yeah those gas lines.
Look at the electoral maps of 1980 and 1984, you losers can’t re-write history. The economic facts are clear.
“Rayguns” first year in office the rates were high because it took some time to fix things. Fed Chairman Volcker (appointed under Carter) had to actually create a recession then to slow down inflation, we called it “stagflation”. After 82 they dropped every year. When Reagen left office the unemplyment was 5.5 %.
The difference between me and most of you punks is that I was actually around then and lived through it.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:44 pmGeorge McChicken still clucking about his crush on Palin?
How unbecoming.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:44 pmAdd in high interest rates and inflation. These all came down under Reagan. Seem that Iranian hostage crisis was a Carter thing too, and oh yeah those gas lines.
Since the children weren’t around during the Reagan administration, we should remind them that Reagan started deficit spending like there was no tomorrow. His terms raised the deficit higher than the budget deficits of all previous presidents combined.
Which just showed that he was no conservative, yet they talk as if he were Ayn Rand’s stepchild.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:48 pmIdiot DIKHED. I did not create a “strawman”. Can’t you read tool.
My comment (#156) was re:
DUMPHUCKER
June 14th, 2010 at 5:50 pmThe difference between me and most of you punks is that I was actually around then and lived through it.
Yet you push the Reagan fairy tale. I was a young adult during that time (Carter was my first vote), and we all remember how the hostages were freed the day after reagan took office – shortly before he started shipping weapons to the same terrorists who held Americans hostage.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:51 pmDUMPHUCKER
Nothing in your post intimates that we thought Reagan was unpopular at the time.
Childish attempt.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:54 pmAnd yes, you did create a strawman — a weak, lopsided monstrosity, better suited for the pasture, than as a means of debate.
Child.
June 14th, 2010 at 5:55 pmReagan was good but his record on abortion was appalling and shameful.
June 14th, 2010 at 6:03 pmAnd he supported the Brady bill. Me and my AK-47 will never forgive him for that.
June 14th, 2010 at 6:04 pmhey mgnebbish ….Your sorry ass link didn’t work , retard.
BTW
No one cares what era(s) you “lived through”, pansy …
June 14th, 2010 at 6:07 pmWell,; I don’t owe an explanation to a piece of shit like
June 14th, 2010 at 6:07 pmmcdumbass, but unlike our trolls I actually do have a bachelors degree.
A B
A in psychology with a 3.6 gpa at the age of 52.
Scored a 100 on my first abnormal psych test.
Graduated with my guidedog Dietrich.
What about you dumbhunk?
tony and lido
Reagan lovers would really do well to stay away from the Iranian hostage crisis. It is well-established that Reagan (or people working on his behalf) had the hostages’ release delayed until he took office.
June 14th, 2010 at 6:08 pm… which is in itself a shameful, possibly traitorous act, and especially for the first act of one’s presidency.
June 14th, 2010 at 6:09 pmForeign policy was President Reagan’s shining legacy. Why? Because it ushered in the John Bolton era of American Exceptionalism.
June 14th, 2010 at 6:14 pmGeorge McMichael says:
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Foreign policy was President Reagan’s shining legacy. Why? Because it ushered in the John Bolton era of American Exceptionalism.
June 14th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
People view looking like Wilford Brimley while not knowing jack shit as “exceptional” ? Who knew …
June 14th, 2010 at 6:20 pmForeign policy was President Reagan’s shining legacy. Why? Because it ushered in the John Bolton era of American Exceptionalism.
Someone doesn’t know that Reagan’s cowardice spurred the terrorists to additional hostage taking, which resulted in even more weapons being sent to terrorists.
June 14th, 2010 at 6:23 pmForeign policy was President Reagan’s shining legacy. Why? Because it ushered in the John Bolton era of American Exceptionalism.
Site rules prohibit me from voting this down more than once. This is where we should be allowed to cast one mega-vote per day, worth ten votes up or down. This would get ten votes down from me. What an ignorant, ill-informed thing to say.
June 14th, 2010 at 6:34 pmOT: good video — Darth Cheney endorses Meg Whitman in California.
“She like California’s Sarah Palin.”
June 14th, 2010 at 6:34 pmWayne, if you stopped taking seriously anything the troll says, you’d save yourself a lot of mild annoyance.
It obviously doesn’t believe the stupid shit it posts; no one with a functioning cerebral cortex could. So I’d suggest either ignoring it entirely (my preferred course of action) or laughing at its silliness.
June 14th, 2010 at 6:38 pmralph perhaps you, Wayne and I could all get together and agree to ignore me? Maybe even have a Troll Free Monday, whadda ya think?
June 14th, 2010 at 6:44 pmbarfly says:
HE just HAPPENED to be in office when that happened. Great argument barfly. That statement says it all
I will give him credit for the START treaty, but he was clueless about the fall of the Soviet Union. Your attempt at making it seem as if he were responsible is laughable
So by your logic Obama does not get credit for universal Healthcare. He just happened to be in office when it pased through. I mean Pelosi and Reid are the ones that passed the bill.
That is how idiotic your logic is. The fact that you are denying Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of the Soviet Union because the CIA told him they needed more money is what is laughable. Who do you think put the defense spending in the budget??
Please leave the rational discussions to the ones that can handle it.
June 14th, 2010 at 7:01 pmMCMetal says:
kdawg says:
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I can always count on my admirer can’t I dietrich. Tell you what. Google greatest Presidents of the 20th century and see how historians rank Reagan. Of course you will just deem them Republican historians to fit your point of view
June 14th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Show us one historian that isn’t a cancervative that refers to Ronnie Retard’s presidency as “great” , and then maybe you’ll be believed……
Let’s see. Several scholarly historians or you. Sounds like an easy decision on who history is going to believe.
June 14th, 2010 at 7:04 pmOh, come on, kdawg. You can do better than that. There is a huge difference between legislation being passed and signed into law, and a political cataclysm in a rival nation.
One can credibly make the argument that the latter is correlation but not causation, while the former is undeniably related causally.
Now, I’m not very impressed with barfly’s argument — I don’t like the idea that presidents just happen to be in office when big political events on which they’ve been engaged come to fruition (since a right-wing friend of mine tried to make that same argument about Clinton and the economic gains of the 90s) — but your analogy flat doesn’t work.
June 14th, 2010 at 7:10 pmkdawg,
nobody outside of this country thinks raygun had anything to do with the fall of the Soviet Union. The rot had set in years before raygun was even governor. I have friends from Russia who laugh when they hear that raygun helped the fall. They say Rock & Roll, Levi Jeans and Disco had more to do with finally pushing that corrupt regime over the edge.
Raygun just happened to be the President when the cards finally collapsed.
June 14th, 2010 at 7:11 pmkdawg says:
That is how idiotic your logic is. The fact that you are denying Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of the Soviet Union because the CIA told him they needed more money is what is laughable. Who do you think put the defense spending in the budget??
Reagan’s part in the downfall of the Soviet Union is not as significant as you think. You must be unfamiliar with history. I will give you a clue–John Foster Dulles.
June 14th, 2010 at 7:14 pmkdawg,
I’ve heard some historians say, raygun was one of the most popular presidents in modern times, but I haven’t heard any historian say he was a great president.
June 14th, 2010 at 7:15 pmsarah sellout says:
“newsweek should just quit publishing a magazine and sell out. i did, and it made me millions overnight.”
June 14th, 2010 at 7:18 pmralph, you are right (as usual). I shall ignore him. Thanks.
June 14th, 2010 at 7:18 pmkdawg says:
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MCMetal says:
kdawg says:
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I can always count on my admirer can’t I dietrich. Tell you what. Google greatest Presidents of the 20th century and see how historians rank Reagan. Of course you will just deem them Republican historians to fit your point of view
June 14th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Show us one historian that isn’t a cancervative that refers to Ronnie Retard’s presidency as “great” , and then maybe you’ll be believed……
Let’s see. Several scholarly historians or you. Sounds like an easy decision on who history is going to believe.
June 14th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Who cares ? They’re cancervative pieces of shit …. They have absolutely ZERO credibility except to uneducated gullible rubes like yourself , which is also why you keep changing the parameters in every one of your useless posts , without answering the question I have asked from the outset :
Name 1 non-cancervative historian who views or believes Ronnie Retard’s presidency was “great” , or simply shut the hell up …..
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angels81 says:
kdawg,
nobody outside of this country thinks raygun had anything to do with the fall of the Soviet Union. The rot had set in years before raygun was even governor. I have friends from Russia who laugh when they hear that raygun helped the fall. They say Rock & Roll, Levi Jeans and Disco had more to do with finally pushing that corrupt regime over the edge.
Raygun just happened to be the President when the cards finally collapsed.
I have NEVER said anywhere angel that Reagan was the sole reason for the collapse. IMO. It started back during the 60’s. OF course Reagan happened to be there. When you have 2 competing superpowers trying to outspend each other when 1 of them was already maxed out on their credit card(THE USSR)it was inevitable to happen. It just so happened on Reagan’s watch.
June 14th, 2010 at 8:12 pmralph the wonder llama, official spokesllama for a Troll-Free America™ says:
kdawg says:
barfly says:
HE just HAPPENED to be in office when that happened. Great argument barfly. That statement says it all
I will give him credit for the START treaty, but he was clueless about the fall of the Soviet Union. Your attempt at making it seem as if he were responsible is laughable
So by your logic Obama does not get credit for universal Healthcare. He just happened to be in office when it pased through. I mean Pelosi and Reid are the ones that passed the bill.
Oh, come on, kdawg. You can do better than that. There is a huge difference between legislation being passed and signed into law, and a political cataclysm in a rival nation.
One can credibly make the argument that the latter is correlation but not causation, while the former is undeniably related causally.
Now, I’m not very impressed with barfly’s argument — I don’t like the idea that presidents just happen to be in office when big political events on which they’ve been engaged come to fruition (since a right-wing friend of mine tried to make that same argument about Clinton and the economic gains of the 90s) — but your analogy flat doesn’t work.
I understand my analogy was idiotic. That was the point Ralph. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. That was what I was trying to explain in barfly’s argument.
June 14th, 2010 at 8:14 pmOkay. I just think you could have made your point better with a closer analogy.
June 14th, 2010 at 8:34 pmMCMetal says:
kdawg says:
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MCMetal says:
kdawg says:
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I can always count on my admirer can’t I dietrich. Tell you what. Google greatest Presidents of the 20th century and see how historians rank Reagan. Of course you will just deem them Republican historians to fit your point of view
June 14th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Show us one historian that isn’t a cancervative that refers to Ronnie Retard’s presidency as “great” , and then maybe you’ll be believed……
Let’s see. Several scholarly historians or you. Sounds like an easy decision on who history is going to believe.
June 14th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Who cares ? They’re cancervative pieces of shit …. They have absolutely ZERO credibility except to uneducated gullible rubes like yourself , which is also why you keep changing the parameters in every one of your useless posts , without answering the question I have asked from the outset :
Name 1 non-cancervative historian who views or believes Ronnie Retard’s presidency was “great” , or simply shut the hell up …..
A little history on Richard Reeves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reeves
http://www.richardreeves.com/books/president_reagan_triumph_of_imagination.html
One of your own ‘moderate’ liberals. But he is probably not liberal enough in your eyes MC. NOw move on to the next thread and spew more of your BS
June 14th, 2010 at 8:42 pmReagan was a very bad president. People liked him personally but he was very stupid. He embarassed America often when he met foriegn leaders with his ignorance, he lied so often the press stopped saying anything about it because it was virtually constant. His policies in Central America supported butchers who were responsible for at least 100,000 deaths. His economic policies of give all the money to the rich and deregulate everything set the table for the S&L disaster and he gave tax cuts to companies to LEAVE the country in his zeal to attack all union industries. It was HIS policy to support us not MAKING anything and being a service economy which put hundreds of thousands out of work until they went back to work making FAR less money. The man was a disaster but til the end people liked him
June 14th, 2010 at 8:46 pm@ 216.
Duly noted.
June 14th, 2010 at 8:46 pmSince the children weren’t around during the Reagan administration, we should remind them that Reagan started deficit spending like there was no tomorrow. His terms raised the deficit higher than the budget film izle deficits of all previous presidents combined.
Which just showed that he was no conservative, yet they talk as if he were Ayn Rand’s stepchild.
June 14th, 2010 at 8:50 pmkdawg says:
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A little history on Richard Reeves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reeves
http://www.richardreeves.com/books/president_reagan_triumph_of_imagination.html
One of your own ‘moderate’ liberals. But he is probably not liberal enough in your eyes MC. NOw move on to the next thread and spew more of your BS
June 14th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hey dummy ; what exactly is a “Moderate Liberal” ?
Is there such a thing as a “Moderate Canverative” ?
And stupid ass ; please point out where Reeves claims Ronnie Retard’s presidency is “great” …..And , oh yeah ; where exactly are Reeves’ credentials as a “historian” ? In your own link , it says that Reeves is : “writer, syndicated columnist and lecturer” ….DUH
Pipe down fu(ktard…..Oh , and some advice for your sorry ass , too.
Don’t ever try to tell me what to do again , you sorry little pissant …..You are no one here and mean absolutely nothing to me besides target practice ….
June 14th, 2010 at 8:58 pmkdawg says:
I have NEVER said anywhere angel that Reagan was the sole reason for the collapse. IMO. It started back during the 60’s.
It started a lot earlier than the 60’s. In fact it started right after WWII. These policies developed at the end of the war with respect to expenditures and containment. It was the steady growth in the US defense and successive presidents before Reagan that created the downfall. It would have happened with any president. Reagan just happened to be president when it happened but he certainly was not significant to the fall.
June 14th, 2010 at 9:25 pmI don’t have time to read all these posts so I hope I’m not repeating anyone else’s comment but I just had to mention something I heard on the Bill Press Show this morning. After playing a sound bite where the half-governor addresses those who think she has had breast agumentation, Bill said “Sarah Palin IS a boob job.” I cracked up laughing on my way to work. It was actually a nice way to start the day…laughing my head off! HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Sarah IS a boob job!!! That’s pricelss!!
June 14th, 2010 at 10:04 pmCitizen Palin dosen’t read.
I mean, um… citizen Palin dosen’t read the news papers…
I mean… dammit… she reads ALL of them.
*cough*
Out of curiousity, is she a liberal plant to make the conservatives look stupid?
June 14th, 2010 at 10:08 pmMe @223: Oops! That should be “priceless”. (It’s definitely Monday!)
June 14th, 2010 at 10:12 pmPolicy
I doubt it for two reasons. First we dont NEED a plant to make them look stupid anymore than we need a plan to make water seem wet. Second. I dont know where in the WORLD, among progressives, we would find anyone as stupid as Bimbostien
June 14th, 2010 at 10:13 pmpags2 a wholly owned subsidiary of the Chicago Democratic Party says:
kdawg says:
I have NEVER said anywhere angel that Reagan was the sole reason for the collapse. IMO. It started back during the 60’s.
It started a lot earlier than the 60’s. In fact it started right after WWII. These policies developed at the end of the war with respect to expenditures and containment. It was the steady growth in the US defense and successive presidents before Reagan that created the downfall. It would have happened with any president. Reagan just happened to be president when it happened but he certainly was not significant to the fall
I agree with you pags in regards to other Presidents had a hand in it just like Reagan. But Reagan ramped up the defense spending like no other President had. That is why I say he had a hand in it. It was a lot more than he just happened to be the President
June 15th, 2010 at 9:09 amYou know reading this Reagan thread is kind of eye opening and funny. The Regan supporters go on and on about how he inherited a terrible economy and it took him two years to fix the Carter mess etc…How was it fixed? By spending spending spending federal dollars. Now these same people I am sure have been blaming Obama for spending federal dollars and for not fixing the bad economy he inherited from Bush. They tend to blame him for the economy and deny it was collapsing during the Bush years. Classic.
June 15th, 2010 at 9:28 amSeverus says:
You know reading this Reagan thread is kind of eye opening and funny. The Regan supporters go on and on about how he inherited a terrible economy and it took him two years to fix the Carter mess etc…How was it fixed? By spending spending spending federal dollars. Now these same people I am sure have been blaming Obama for spending federal dollars and for not fixing the bad economy he inherited from Bush. They tend to blame him for the economy and deny it was collapsing during the Bush years. Classic
No one with a brain would blame Obama for the current economic mess. Can you blame for him for not doing enough?? Maybe. Can you blame some of his policies?? You can.
But to say the current economy is to be blamed on Obama is ludicrous.
June 15th, 2010 at 12:17 pmAnd yet they do blame him and the democrats. Everything was going swimmingly well until…well you know, untill he took over.
I have actually heard people on up days in the market talk about Bush era policy’s in action and the next day when the market dips they talk about how Obama’s policies are having a negative effect on the market. And they do this without any sense of the Irony. Of course I live in an illinois county that voted heavily for Keyes in the Obama Senate Election.
June 15th, 2010 at 2:57 pm@ 221
http://www.harrywalker.com/speaker/Richard-Reeves.cfm?Spea_ID=960
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/889
Here you go. Not just historian but PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN. Hopefully that will satisfy your willful and unbelievable ignorance.
And some advice for you. Yout thoughts on ANYTHING mean absolutely NOTHING to me. Internet parrotheads are like a buzzing fly. Just squash them when you need too. So next time you plan on taking target practice make sure you are not the one staring down the barrell of the gun
June 16th, 2010 at 3:56 pm