July 22, 2009
Obama: Changes Will Make People Healthier
President Makes His Primetime Pitch for Health Care Reform, Saying He Will Not Increase Deficit
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President Barack Obama responds to questions during a news conference in the East Room of the White House in Washington, Wednesday July 22, 2009. (AP)
In a prime time press conference Wednesday night, President Obama said he cannot guarantee that health care reform will not bring about any changes in how patients receive insurance or care. The changes that occur, though, should be for the better, he said.
"Can I guarantee there are going to be no changes in the health care delivery system? No," Mr. Obama said. "The whole point is to try to encourage changes that work for the American people and make them healthier."
Mr. Obama said decisions about what treatments deserve to be insured should be made by doctors and medical professionals.
"That's not how it's working right now," the president said, adding that insurance companies often make those decisions now.
The president also touted the proposal for a government-sponsored insurance plan, or "public option," as a way to bring about positive changes and keep costs down.
"There had been reports just over the last couple of days of insurance companies making record profits... and premiums are going up," Mr. Obama said. "What's the constraint on that? ...Well, part of the way is to make sure that there's some competition out there."
The president's press conference followed days of aggressive promotion of his health care agenda in television interviews and online. In tonight's address, Mr. Obama tied the country's economic future to health care reform.
(Read Mr. Obama's full prepared remarks here.)
"Let me be clear," Mr. Obama said tonight. "If we do not control these costs, we will not be able to control our deficit. If we do not reform health care, your premiums and out-of-pocket costs will continue to skyrocket."
The president acknowledged, though, that Congress is held up figuring out how to pay for reform.
"Before we talk about how to pay for it, let's talk about what needs to get done," Mr. Obama said.
The president said many Americans have concerns about how the proposed changes will affect their lives. In fact, the public has grown increasingly doubtful Mr. Obama can accomplish his goals, including health care reform, a recent Associated Press poll found.
However, Mr. Obama promised Congress has already agreed to some key points: Those with health insurance already will have more more security and more stability, he said. Furthermore, he said, the government will stay out of people's health care decisions, out-of-pocket costs will be limited and preventive measures like check-ups and mammograms will be covered.
Congress has also already agreed to establish an insurance exchange for individuals and small businesses, the president pointed out, and insurance companies will not be allowed to deny coverage for people with pre-existing conditions.
The president pointed out that he expects two-thirds of the bill to be paid for by re-allocating money already in the health care system more efficiently.
He said he is open to ideas from Congress on how to cover the rest of the cost, but he added, "I don't want that final one third of the cost of health care to be completely shouldered on the backs of the middle class."
Mr. Obama said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's proposal to tax families making more than $1 million a year meets his principle of keeping that burden off the middle class. He also said it is potentially possible to fund even more than two-thirds of reform by identifying more waste in the system.
CBS News Chief White House Correspondent Chip Reid asked the president what sacrifices beneficiaries will have to make in order to cut costs in Medicare. The president has proposed leaving Medicare payment rates up to an independent body of experts.
"It's not going to reduce Medicare benefits," Mr. Obama said, referring to the cuts that the commission would likely propose. "What it's going to do is to change how those benefits are delivered so that they're more efficient."
He related how the the pharmaceutical industry agreed to find $80 billion in cost savings "because there's probably even more waste than $80 billion in terms of how the drug plan in Medicare is administered."
On a day when bipartisan negotiations for health care reform continued to unravel, Mr. Obama stepped up his rhetoric against Republicans.
"I've heard that one Republican strategist told his party that even though they may want to compromise, it's better politics to 'go for the kill,'" the president said. "Another Republican senator said that defeating health reform is about 'breaking' me."
The president repeated his earlier message that "this isn�t about me."
"This debate is about the letters I read when I sit in the Oval Office every day, and the stories I hear at town hall meetings," he said. "This debate is not a game for these Americans, and they cannot afford to wait for reform any longer."
The president said he has been "frustrated by some of the misinformation" coming from Republicans, though he appreciates efforts to cooperate from Senators like Chuck Grassley and Olympia Snowe. He also acknowleged that not all Democrats are happy with the legislation so far, but their concerns are being considered.
"This is part of the normal give and take of the legislative process," he said.
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See all 261 CommentsThe biggest similarity is the idea of Nationalism and Socialism. Americans are naturally nationalists, and it is a good side to appeal to. Also, Obama is in favor of many socialist initiatives. So, it would be appropriate to call Obama a NAZI (An advocate of National Socialism). Both NAZIs.
Highly paid employees received nearly $2.1 trillion of the $6.4 trillion in total U.S. pay in 2007, the latest figures available. The compensation numbers don't include incentive stock options, unexercised stock options, unvested restricted stock units and certain benefits.
The pay of employees who receive more than the Social Security wage base, now $106,800, increased by 78%, or nearly $1 trillion, over the past decade, exceeding the 61% increase for other workers, according to the analysis. In the five years ending in 2007, earnings for American workers rose 24%, half the 48% gain for the top-paid. The result: The top-paid represent 33% of the total, up from 28% in 2002.
The growing portion of pay that exceeds the maximum amount subject to payroll taxes has contributed to the weakening of the Social Security trust fund. In May, the government said the Social Security fund would be exhausted in 2037, four years earlier than was predicted in 2008.
You spoke about how your children would handle health care......do they really need to?
Do not do this to me again, erase what I have to say. I am now unemployed after 35 years with one company. Are you really blaming wall street? You truly are an idiot. I have never felt the need to express my anger until I heard you. You are still a Junior Senator and incapable of running the country. You are still an uneducatedc and and double talking idiot! Lets just say, I have no faith in you or your idiotic speech manager PS; I'm sure you will never see this....wish you would.
This recession was in the making looong before our current pres got in office. Dimwit.
1.Student of Rev Wright, 20 years with a racist pastor
2.Student of Bill Ayers, he steps on american flags.
3.Student of a Communist Mentor...its in his Memoirs.
4.Student of a far left radical ideology
What kind of President would this be?
Classic! My children used to try that line at the video game store.
Dems and liberals never worry about how to pay for things they know they mostly in the bottom 40% of americans who pay no taxes. This means they know it won't be them paying for it so they are all for living off teh pay checks of someone else.
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I have a simple question for you.
I do not recall reading any of your posts that opposed the 5 trillion Bush and his GOP supporters spent prior to the Obama adminstration.
Do you care to explain that?
By the way, did you see the press questioners???? They looked like beaten mules after they came back from the rental office....astounding!!!!!
See these Marxist idiots have no clue. They dont research anything. They dont understand what is going on. They just repeat what Obama Bin Biden says.
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Now you are getting nasty...comparing liberals to the blind-lemming-dittoheads that listen to Rush Limbaugh and Fox news!
Stop it!
Any bailouts.
Any more borrowing from China.
Any more printing money as if it were play money.
We shouldn't pay for bonuses, vacations, spa treatments, retreats, for for that matter any kind of treats!
This entire heathcare reform should be flushed!
What incentive is there for anyone to become a doctor OR go into any medical profession if that passes?
My sis and I opened a special type of restaurant in 2006. It's doing OK. We don't have health insurance because we can't even afford to pay ourselves $300 a week, if we do get $300 a week (that is a great week) we borrowed nothing, we used our savings, we are still for the most part using savings money to live on. We qualify for food stamps but choose not to get them. We didn't qualify for any stimulus money - EVER! We don't really have any income because what we make is considered a reimbursement of our savings. If everyone could apply for insurance and the price was based on what they could afford i.e. show 2 years of tax returns and some bank statements, then, at least it would be fair. Rather than the present (re-pricing) that insurance companies do by making contracts with doctors and then re-pricing the medical charges. Why should the doctors and hospitals take a huge hit from people who could afford to pay more because they earn more. Nothing should be free or run by the government, but people who are going through lean times should be given a break. Obama wants to let the elderly die and decrease the surplus population. And if anything needed to be bailed out, whay wasn't it social security, medicare and medicaid? Those have been in trouble a long time. Not GM, or AIG, or any of those corporations and banks. And let the people have some say in all of this, thorough voting (which if anything needed to be the #1 thing to reform it's the voting system!) after it gets reliable, then let the people vote on the important issues of the day.
POLITICIANS YOU ARE PULIC SERVANTS, NOT DICTATORS. YOU WORK FOR US, WE DO NOT WORK FOR YOU. AND FOR GOD'S SAKE GO BACK TO WHAT PRESIDENT KENNEDY SAID, ASK NOT WHAT THE COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU, ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY! NO PERSON SHOULD BE PERMITTED TO RUN FOR COMMANDER AND CHIEF UNLESS HE OR SHE HAVE SERVED THIS COUNTRY AND THERE NEEDS TO BE TERM LIMITS ACROSS THE BOARD, EVEN ON THE SUPREME COURT. OUR FOUNDING FATHERS ARE TURNING IN THEIR GRAVES!
Canada spends 11%
France spends 10%
England spends 9%
They cover everyone, we don't.
They generally like, and don't complain about, their insurance. Ours stinks.
OK, that's the math. What's wrong with this picture.
And TooTooFunny, that's exactly what you are.
People like the two of you and your divisiveness are the reason why we are stuck in neutral in this country.
YES, BLAME BUSH, you lemmings. And you call Sotomeyor a RACIST? Are you kidding?
I'm outta here. As Americans, some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
No lobbiest in his administration
All bills will be on the internet for 5 days for public review before there is a vote.
He will wait 48 hours before signing any bills
There will be no pork in any bill he signs into law
And so on and so on the man is a pathological liar and you Obamabots eat it up.
We can in Finnish if you like?
Our healthcare is so bad that i cannot be from Finland and be happy for it? Maybe you shouldnt belive everything Fox tells you about our "horrible" system? Funniest must be that our people are dying because waiting lists, baseless lie. Pvt+public system works good here.
Maybe you shouldnt belive everything Fox tells you about our "horrible" system? Funniest must be that our people are dying because waiting lists
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They same the same thing about Canada and Britain too.
Everyone one who lives there knows it's a lie, but for some reason a lot of Americans believe it.
My friends reported that all but one person stated that they were basically pleased with the Canadian health system. The Canadians that were questioned also advised my friends that they are aware of lies and rumors being spread about their system here in the USA. Several people made comments to my friends that based on the fact that the United States claims to be a Christian nation, then why are so many of the US citizens content to allow so many millions of fellow citizens to fall behind and not receive care?
I have urged my friends to write a report on their recent travels throughout Canada, and get it published somewhere in the public eye ASAP to help counteract the outrageous lies and rumors going around in this country!
To all my fellow US citizens who are willing to deny help to our fellow citizens who are in dire need in order to bring down our President ....we will not forget....and we will remember who you are. I have faith in my beloved USA that the truth will prevail, and it is only a matter of time.
It should not take forty years to bring about decent health care for all! It is about time we start living up to our reputation earned throughout the last 200+ years of being innovative and courageous leaders...instead of acting like a bunch of sniveling pack rats!
President Obama I voted for you but now will fight you! If any of you reading this have parents who are older, you may want to contact your representative and tell them you would like to keep your parents alive and healthy. To do so means those in Congress will have to vote against the present bill. If they vote for it they are signing a death warrant for many of your parents. I cannot believe the Democratic party would turn their backs on the very people who worked for years to elect them, but they have.
Also anyone going for an individual policy has to go with the public option according the law. And I'm glad someone has read this since it is obvious Congress doesn;t nor to the give time to anyone else to read it before voting. This bill will be Dems Waterloo as the public will revolt against it hopefully after the find out the details and the cost.
Good luck to your mom.
Link please? Or any other info that would make me believe your BS for even one minute!
Well my husband has a disorder which requires him to have monthly blood tests and medications every month which total well over $1,500.00. Because of the health care being unavailable we have to move in with his parents just to be able to afford this and at the same time we have three children to take care of. I hope it goes through because I have been uninsured for most of my adult life and as a result have several health problems which could have been nipped in the bud early. I think that most of the people opposed are silver spoon-fed republicans who's parents probably made their fortunes screwing this country out of a future.
I'm very sorry to hear what hell you and your family have been experiencing. This is happening to too many people! I have a dear friend who lost her job two years ago, and, of course, her health insurance also. Problem is that she was diagnosed with MS and diabetes about one year before she lost her job. (we think, but can't prove that she was let go because of her health costs). My friend lost everything, her home, her savings, just paying for her medications in order to stay alive! She worked hard all her life, raised four sons by herself after a divorce, got them all through college.
She had to go on disability because no one would hire her with her health problems. She can work fine as long as she has her medications which cost over $3000/month. If we had a public health option, she could be working and earning over %75,000/year, paying taxes, and contributing to society. As it is, if she could even get a decent job now, she would lose her medical benefits through disability/medicare, and would die. We are all paying for her medical care now, whether people want to or not, and she is forced to live in public housing!! She lost her home remember....in order to pay for her medications when it took almost a year to be awarded disability! OUR SYSTEM SUCKS! And I hope your family survives better than my friend did. I'll keep you in my thoughts!
by Solarrays247 July 22, 2009 9:36 PM EDT
Great! Did you personally pay your attorneys for this insight? Or did your attorneys contribute this info for free? Have they posted their interpretation on the web? If so, would greatly appreciate their insight!
Link please? Or any other info that would make me believe your BS for even one minute!
STILL WAITING.......
This was the most intelligent comment I've read on this thread. And it has nothing to do with whether I like Obama or not.
I agree. Intelligent comment and wrap-up! Great post, ObamaGuy.
He made whatever he inherited...Why would pvt sector go belly up, public and pvt are working well together in our country(Finland), its just alot more efficient. Why this cant work in US?
Healthcare needs reform no doubt. But you don?t nuke the entire industry and the Nation to get it done which is precisely what Obama is attempting to do. Unfortunately he will not be running for the roses on this one or cap & trade either. The pre election promises and the disastrous results tell me he is unqualified to be making any policy let alone for our country. The stimulus results have made me one bitter Hombre because I voted for the man.
Exactly what "disastrous results" are you talking about? You people just make **** up. unreal...
"It will not add to the deficit. I will not sign a bill that adds to the deficit. Period." - obama yesterday with Katie.
I don't see a whole lot of difference between being taxed for supplying health care, (to those that include drug addicts, people that want abortions, the lazy, the uneducated by choice), and having it not affect the deficit.
EITHER WAY, I'M PAYING FOR SOMEONE ELSES CARE.
Gee, and I thought the constitution said "nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." in the 4th amendment.
Guess that doesn't count if yo are a socialist bastard.
Before you start making yourselves look like morons do some research on sites which are not run by bigotted racists who are just mad that the president isn't white. You may find that if people stopped opposing him at every turn that he would probably have a lot easier time bringing this country out of the slum his predicesors set us up to be.
By the way, this guy has improved Jimmy Carter's stature since up to now, I thought (with agreement from many) that he was the worst we have seen since Truman (and yes, I date back to him....)
He's flown the American people on his first policy and crashed. If you think the stimulus is working then ignorance is bliss and we cannot afford another failure because this will be a 100 year failure. I voted for this man. What has he done but trek in reverse all the promises that I heard to get my vote and he got it and now I simply want it back. It's obvious to me that he doesn?t have the experience I thought he would have in basically all areas of policy vertically. I can?t point to one thing that he said he was going to do, promised to do that is being done including allowing us to review these bills before being passed into law. This was a biggie for me and it?s as if everyone forgot about it. Not me and not for a very long time.
People are afraid of change which is understandable but, listen with your brain and not with your emotion.
Insurance companies already make life or death decisions based on money.
The government won't be making those decision, you and your doctor will, which is how it should be.
At least with private coverage I have the option to purchase the plan I want, if i want experimental procedures I can buy a plan that will cover that if I want 0 deductable I cna buy a plan that will cover that. It is my option with government control you will get what everyone gets and the best part is I not only get to pay for my plan I get to pay for my dead beat
neighbor who sits on his arse every day and watches opra.
Don't we have more important things to be working on right now?
Shouldn't we be saving our financial bullets until we have worked our way out of this recession?
Is this an ego thing or real.
Tough to tell.
I'll put that promise right next to:
No lobbiest in his administration
All bills will be on the internet for 5 days for public review before there is a vote.
He will wait 48 hours before signing any bills
There will be no pork in any bill he signs into law
He won't raise a single tax on people making less then 250,000 I do know alot of people who make less then 250,000 who smoke and i know he signed a tax increase on cigarettes.
And so on and so on the man is a pathological liar and you Obamabots eat it up.
It certainly wasn't the same one I had on my TV
Anyone? Anyone at all?
I believe the republicans are pretty irrelevant right now so all they can do is voice their Opinion of how screwed up of a bill this is. Just as they did with Obama's porkulous bill that was rammed through.
The republicans said it was a mess and would have limited to no effect at helping the economy. Look at how right they were the billions spent on turtle crossing and bridges to saloons has done nothing to create a single job in the private sector and only created or saved very minimal jobs in the public sector.
So you Obamabots keep following this idiot of a cliff as conservatives we will keep voicing our opposition and when Obama is finished screwing things up we will be in control again.
By the way at least when Bush supposed screwed things up it was with a super majority like Obama has everything that happens from now until he is elected out of office he owns. And yes he inherited a bad economy but if he keeps tanking like it is and his great porkulous bill does show some economic improvement in the next few months it will be Obama?s economy.
So you Obamabots keep following this idiot of a cliff as conservatives we will keep voicing our opposition and when Obama is finished screwing things up we will be in control again.
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LOL Things we're pretty screwed up when he took over no?
You really think people are going to go running back to the Jesus and intolerance party? I don't
Absolutely,,,, go to heritage.com
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that was a joke yes? that's the most poorly designed website i've ever seen
no, taebok, i'm serious
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Obama has given more press conferences to answer questions in his first few months in office than bush and dick did during their entire two terms... in fact in wasn't until dick LEFT office that he decided to start to give regular interviews... and the only reason he did that was to bash Obama... and bush... well he's still hiding (as per usual)... and the press is holding (or attempting to hold) Obama's feet to the fire WAY more than they ever attempted to do to Bush
You are kidding right? The press (besides Fox) is holding Obama Bin Biden's feet to the fire? Do you actually watch the press conferences? It looks like girls college softball.
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Oh morty morty morty... how soon you forget the conferences W gave eh?
Must be nice to have a memory that's that selective
They're one and the same person: Michelle Malkin.
She's so needy!
So can any of you people here flapping your gums please point out where I can go read the Republican alternative health care plan?
Anyone? Anyone at all?
Yes.
Here are the top five republican proposals:
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go to heritage.com...they will provide you sense rather than nonsense
As in "The Heritage Foundation"?
The anti-American, conservative, useless think tank?
Why in the world would ANYONE go there, for ANY reason?
Who said anythign about running for the SC. I was just saying that a wide white guy would more often than not come up with better decisions than minorities that havent lived the white life.
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No, what you're doing is hoping someone will take your bait.
Good luck with that.
taebok, you believe in the second shooter too, dont you?
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I wasn't alive to see it happen and I don't have access to the evidence, so I can't say one way or the other, sorry.
Keep trying to bait me if you like though, maybe one of these times ;)
This is the same thing he did with his porkulous bill and how well has that worked out for all you unemployed Liberals. Any of you one of the 10 people it took build the turtle crossing in Florida or maybe the 15 it took to rebuild the bridge to the country club and saloon
It is absolutely amazing how lacking in leadership this man is he tries using lies and rhetoric to sell garbage. The only good thing is there was a few democrats with common sense that forced this mess to slow down and now the actual educated Americans are seeing this is a big ole mess Nazi Nancy and Obama was trying to ram down our throats.
There is still the Obama bots out there who will believe every word he says no matter how many times it is proven he is lied but those numbers shrink every day. I even heard CNN pushing the BC situation today (Which I think is bogus) but I just mention because it shows even the press is ending the honey moon for him.
Things will get a lot tougher for him and if his only leadership ability to spread fear and cry the sky is fallen then he will have a tough 4 years. Just ask Bush because that was his leadership tactic how did that work for him.
And now we will add another trillion to the budget. And you call him fiscally responsible? How in the world do people veer that far from reality?
Your crocodile tears of fiduciary responsibility have about as much credibility as the gospel that's preached over at the Fascist Christianity Church on C Street . . .
The one that says that god has "chosen" the weepublicans to rule over us . . .
And who holds up bottom-of-the-gene-pool rejects like Hitler and Stalin as "models" for their disciples to follow . . .
The entire War for Corporate Welfare in Iraq was charged on Communist China's credit card . . . didn't hear you complaining about that . . .
And Medicare Part B was implemented -- with ZERO funding . . . and that didn't seem to be a "problem" for the weepublican prostitutes/lobbyists in Congress back in 2005 . . .
BTW, which one of the Big Biz Mafia do you owe your pathetic job to, hmmmm??? -- defense contracting? Big Pharma? Wall Street thugs? religious mafia?
This is getting old Obama has no leadership ability so every time he wants something he runs around screaming catastrophe, crisis and the skies falling
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It always amazes me, the rights ability to take the EXACT things that they themselves do and try to accuse someone else of doing it.
Saddam has WMD's
Iraq is an immediate threat with the ability to strike the United States
We have to go to war!
Doesn't ring a bell?
But for political purposes of his own, he is right in advocating health care for all.
I do not thank him for it, but am only glad that at least one humanitarian principle has survived his ascendancy to President.
ST
"We let them suffer and die because they didn't have money."
SearingTruth
A Future of the Brave
by Freddie6 July 22, 2009 10:56 PM EDT
Fellow citizen, I do not follow the fate of sports. Only humanity.
And we are following a far to familiar descent unto the abyss of discount, dissolution, and deceit.
ST
"Our children suffered all we had proclaimed just."
SearingTruth
A Future of the Brave
SearingTruth
A Future of the Brave
SearingTruth
A Future of the Brave
(don't believe a damned thing these fools say!!!!)
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don't believe anything you say, got it
No offense Taebok, but you got nothing. And you like to parade it around.
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LOL well i'll admit i don't have a clue what you're talking about
?When a single heart of suffering awakens all who sleep.?
SearingTruth
A Future of the Brave
For I support humanity, at all cost.
While Obama and the Republicans and Democrats only support those who have millions to contribute to their campaigns, no matter the cost to you, I, or our children.
If public health care costs a trillion, or two trillion, or 50 trillion, I don't care.
We can always come up with it when it comes to war, but never when it comes to humanity.
ST
"Humanity no longer lives in America.
Only commerce."
SearingTruth
A Future of the Brave
The committee who will review this in the Senate is comprised on 25 Democrats and 15 Republicans. So, the Dems basically say sit down and shut up and the public is told the Republicans are against it because they have not plan of their own. They do, but they can't get a hearing on it.
There is no hurry to passing this. I would think Obama would not vote "present" on something as important and actually read the bill himself. There are many troubling aspects to the Bill including no going back to private coverage with another carrier if your current private insurance is cancelled. Your choice then ends and you must join the Obamacare or be fined for not having any.
Pharmaceuticals, personal care items, and other things you now buy will have an increased tax.
If it is not good enough for the Congress and Senate, then why should it be good enough for us?
Reform is surely needed to keep the private sector from increasing insurance costs. However, tort reform would be a good place to start except it won't be included because there are a lot of attorneys who are in the Congress and Senate. Gouging $10 or an aspirin while in the hospitals has to stop.
Obama doesn't know what the Bill contains and I don't trust him to not sign it into law before he does know. I no longer trust his word as he has broken it over and over. It's the Chicago way.
Slow down and do it right if you are going to do it, but don't try to get sympathy on the backs of the Republicans when they are not needed to drive it through.
If the fraud and illegal access to care would end, costs would come down. However, the Bill as it currently sits, includes coverage for illegals.
When are they going to get it through their heads that illegals (not those with green cards, etc.) do not have an entitlement and when they show up to collect welfare, etc., they should be deported and Mexico should be sent a bill for our incurred costs of doing so.
This guy could never run a company let alone a country.
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A country is not a company
And life isn't a business... some people seem to lose sight of that
SearingTruth
A Future of the Brave
SearingTruth
A Future of the Brave
For nothing in our country has changed since Obama's election, from the illegal detention, torture, and murder of anonymous global citizens, to giving away trillions of dollars to billionaires, while denying basic rights and services to our citizens.
Don't judge by what people say, judge by what they do.
ST
A Future of the Brave
Fellow citizen reveal5, you have been deceived.
For nothing in our country has changed since Obama's election, from the illegal detention, torture, and murder of anonymous global citizens, to giving away trillions of dollars to billionaires, while denying basic rights and services to our citizens.
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Actually, I would tend to agree with you.
Politics is like organized crime.
The democrats are the genovese family and the republicans are the gambinos.
It's a two party dictatorship. They compete with each other for dominance, but if an outsider ever threatens their control, they circle the wagons to protect each other.
Which is probably why we'll never see anyone in the Bush admin face any charges, because then the dems would have to admit that they knew more than they are letting on
they should pay for their own health care. Better yet, they should go back to their home countries and have those countries pay for their citizen's healthcare.
The legal citizens, especially the elderly and veterans of this country, deserve healthcare ahead of illegal immigrants.
SearingTruth
A Future of the Brave
One suspects you've done a bit of wandering yourself ------ maybe a wee bit off the beaten path of logic, with a short dogleg onto a course of full blown delirium?
I suggest a 12 step program for racial bigotry, followed by a course in Aaronic biblical history.
If any single institution or political ideology has encouraged the veneration of wealth ----- and the sacrifice of human life upon the altar of greed -----it is the republican, neoconservative movement. (And I use the word "movement" in its alimentary sense.)
The Iraq debacle itself proves the point: Here was a war of choice, based upon an architecture of lies ----- and all of it, mind you ----- designed to enrich the already bloated coffers of the defense industry and myriad other corporations, thru the no infamous no bid contracts.
4000 American Soldiers returning in body bags? Several hundred thousand dead Iraqis? Piffle. Just the collateral damage one expects from corporate fascist warmongering. quod erat demonstrandum
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