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Biden Rips McCain for Saying Fundamentals of Economy are "Strong'

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September 15, 2008 5:49 PM

ABC News' Matt Jaffe reports: Barack Obama's vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden ripped into Republican candidate John McCain Monday for saying that "the fundamentals of our economy are strong."

Arguing that McCain is "divorced" from the economic realities of the country, Biden used McCain's own words earlier in the day Jacksonville against the GOP nominee.

"Ladies and gentlemen, I believe that’s why John McCain could say with a straight face as recently as this morning and this is a quote, 'the fundamentals of the economy are strong.' That’s what John said. He says that 'We’ve made great progress economically in the Bush years",' Biden said in St. Clair Shores, Michigan.

"Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, I could walk from here to Lansing, and I wouldn’t run into a single person who thought our economy was doing well, unless I ran into John McCain."
 
Biden frequently uses similar language on the stump, but Monday he blamed the current state of the nation's economy on American voters' faith eight years ago in a Republican candidate's promises, urging them not to make the same mistake again.

"Remember those promises. Remember what he said," Biden said about President George W. Bush. "Remember the promise to reach across the aisle? To change the way things were done in Washington, to change the tone? To restore honor and dignity to the White House? You know, we saw how that story ends. A number, a record number of home foreclosures. Home values tumbling. And the disturbing news that the crisis that you've been facing on Main Street is now hitting Wall Street, taking down Lehman Brothers and threatening other large financial institutions. We have seen eight straight months of job loss in America. Nearly 46 million Americans without any health insurance. Average incomes down, while the price of everything from gas to groceries is going up and up."

The Delaware senator also accused McCain of making American workers into "economic scapegoats."

"Don’t tell me those people, the people who played by the rules, who are the heart and soul of this country, don’t tell me they deserve to be treated as the economic scapegoats that the McCain campaign is treating them - these people worked hard, these people did everything they were supposed to do, these people are ready to work hard again, our job is to give them jobs so they can work hard again," Biden said. 

Biden noted that McCain had surrounded himself with advisers like his former Phil Gramm, who said months ago that America had become a "nation of whiners."

"They’re the people John McCain chose himself, chose to be surrounded with getting economic advice on the subject he says he doesn’t know much about. Well let me tell you, tell that to my friend, tell that to my friend Billy who flew jets in the Navy, worked 20 years for the major airlines, they went bankrupt, wiped out his pension. The CEO got a golden parachute. Don’t tell me he’s a whiner. And by the way, if you knew Billy, don’t dare tell him because he’ll knock you on your know what if you tell him he’s a whiner," Biden said. 

The McCain campaign hit back Monday, arguing the Democratic ticket is the "most partisan ticket" in presidential politics.

"This is the most partisan ticket in modern presidential politics attempting to repackage outdated and failed policies of the past," said McCain spokesman Ben Porritt. "Barack Obama and his running mate are insistent upon raising taxes which would kill jobs and continue to refuse responsible energy legislation that would reduce gas prices."

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I want to see Obama supporter Barney Smith in a commercial.

They say that Wall Street is not an issue on Main Street. Take a look at my 401K balances and tell me again that we don't care.

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Posted by: ohiogal | Sep 15, 2008 6:04:58 PM

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If you actually heard McCain when he was saying this nonsense you'd think he had just gotten out of bed and was confused. He was almost (but not quite) incoherent. His speech pattern was just plain strange. Folks, he IS getting old. Remember Reagan? He had the beginnings of alzheimer's when he was still in the White House and it was only after the fact that the American public was notified. Generally speaking 72 is not OLD old, but I guess it depends on the individual. Given McCain's having been a pow and suffering tremendously, it's got to have had a deleterious effect on him, both physically and mentally. You folks out there who are voting the republican ticket are taking way more of a chance than those who are voting democratic. Way more...

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Posted by: demthistimearound | Sep 15, 2008 6:07:06 PM

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Way to go, Joe. You've just joined the Nation of Whiners. One of the things I liked about Obama way back when was how inspirational he seemed. This is a bummer listening to this.

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Posted by: Kitty | Sep 15, 2008 6:08:43 PM

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The fundamental of the economy are strong
The fundamental of the economy are strong
The fundamental of the economy are strong
The fundamental of the economy are strong
I can see Russia from my house!
The fundamental of the economy are strong
The fundamental of the economy are strong
The fundamental of the economy are strong

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Posted by: Reggie | Sep 15, 2008 6:08:50 PM

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I get a doom and gloom feeling from the Dems.

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Posted by: Kitty | Sep 15, 2008 6:10:10 PM

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From the NY Post today ... Obama playing politics with the lives of our soldiers:
WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

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Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | Sep 15, 2008 6:10:45 PM

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"The New York Post has been criticized since the beginning of Murdoch's ownership for what many consider its lurid headlines, sensationalism, blatant advocacy and conservative bias. In 1980, the Columbia Journalism Review asserted that "the New York Post is no longer merely a journalistic problem. It is a social problem - a force for evil."

(Wikipedia entry for the New York Post)

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Posted by: YeahYeah | Sep 15, 2008 6:16:45 PM

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I don't know why he would be stupid enough to say that today of all days. Then the way he tried to clear it up just insulted the intelligence of everyone he was talking to.

It's clear what he said.

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Posted by: Mike J | Sep 15, 2008 6:18:19 PM

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darn right its doom and gloom mccain is a dangerous choice for president, he must be stopped!

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Posted by: Bhrandon | Sep 15, 2008 6:21:18 PM

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After that kind of remark can a republican honestly say that this guy is what's best for the country?

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Posted by: KateCo | Sep 15, 2008 6:21:54 PM

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Joe Biden is an idiot. He totally took McCain's words out of context. He was refering to the hardworking spirit of America's work force.
anyway who in their right mind would listen to a man who said that he wasn't qualified to be vice president?

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Posted by: Gabrielle | Sep 15, 2008 6:22:49 PM

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all you republican voters out there...you're f'd up if you're going to reward the republicans for this mess.

You're f'd up if you lost your home and your jobs and still want to vote this party in another 4 years.

WHO THE F CARES IF PALIN IS A WOMAN...she belongs to the party that f'd up our economy, took jobs away, bankrupted our country with a wreckless war and did nothing while we lost our homes!

SO AFTER THE STAR OF PALIN FADES...and if you voted for them into the white house...don't cry like babies if you see NO CHANGE!

THIS IS S F'D UP! HOW BAD DOES THIS ECONOMY HAVE TO GET BEFORE YOU PEOPLE FINALLY GET IT!!!!!!!

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Posted by: tammy | Sep 15, 2008 6:22:50 PM

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From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/proposed-commercial-mac-vs-pc.html

Sunday, September 14, 2008
A Proposed Commercial: Mac vs. PC

(White background. Childlike piano music plays)

(A picture of Barack Obama appears against the background)

VO: (Similar to voice of "Mac" character): Barack Obama is like a Mac.

(A picture of John McCain appears against the background)

VO: (Similar to voice of "PC" character): John McCain is like a PC.

(Picture of a bank against the background)

VO: McCain likes the old economics, corporate welfare, and tax breaks for the wealthy of George W. Bush.

(Quick cuts: Picture of Countrywide Branch, Picture of Bear Stearns, Picture of IndyMac, Picture of Lehman Brothers against background)

(Picture of Obama)

VO: Obama doesn't like old systems that crash.

(Picture of a mother, father, son and daughter against the background)

VO: Obama thinks that when it comes to health care, every American should have the access and support they need.

(Picture of family fades to blank background)

VO: McCain is against these health benefits for children, families and the elderly. He believes that when it comes to access and support for health, it's an "ownership society"--you're on your own.

(Picture of a woman standing against background)

VO: For women, McCain talks a good game, but he is against a woman's right to choose, would repeal Roe v. Wade, and even voted against equal pay for women.

(Picture expands to show many women standing behind her)

VO: Barack Obama believes that every woman should be paid the same for the same work as every man, and that every woman has the right to make her own choices.

(Picture of George W. Bush)

VO: Barack Obama has called for an end to the distortions, mismanagement, and failed policies of the Bush Administration that have left so many families in distress.

(Famed picture of McCain hugging George W. Bush)

VO: McCain has agreed with George W. Bush 90% of the time.

(Picture of McCain)

VO: John McCain. Do you really want to spend another four years with the same old system?

(Music outro. Fade.)

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/proposed-commercial-mac-vs-pc.html

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Posted by: cara prado | Sep 15, 2008 6:25:41 PM

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If McCain thinks so much of the hardworking spirit of the American worker then why doesn't he give them the bulk of his tax breaks instead of giving them to rich people and corporations?

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Posted by: KateCo | Sep 15, 2008 6:26:19 PM

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Wait a minute, team Obama has two (2) Fannie Mae executives as their economic advisors . . . Duh!

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Posted by: van Jacobi | Sep 15, 2008 6:26:59 PM

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The value of currency without precious metal to back it up like in the olden days is largely a matter of perception.

That is about the only thing the Republicans have gotten right so far.

The Democratic Party.
"Cleaning up Republican rug stains for decades."

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Posted by: Leonard Peltier | Sep 15, 2008 6:28:16 PM

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McCain thinks that the fundamentals of the economy is strong.

What an idiot!

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Posted by: Samantha | Sep 15, 2008 6:28:29 PM

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The Housing crisis is the fault of the Democrats.

They ran Fannie Mae and Feddie Mac.

They created the rules for approved mortgages which were bogus.

McCain and Palin will fix this mess.


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Posted by: obetwo | Sep 15, 2008 6:28:47 PM

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This subject is one that should wake the people up it is ok Economy is just fine will handle this>>>>> my gosh what the hey is it going to take if???? If I made 6 million a year had 7 houses I would say it it's ok too,But to us little people this sucks>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't know how much more we little guys can handle>>>>>>>>

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Posted by: indp voter | Sep 15, 2008 6:31:48 PM

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It's a bad day when people are unable to figure out that all of our polititions are unable to fix this mess. . . maybe it's time to roll our the Guillotines

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Posted by: pipian | Sep 15, 2008 6:32:46 PM

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Kate Asks:

If McCain thinks so much of the hardworking spirit of the American worker then why doesn't he give them the bulk of his tax breaks instead of giving them to rich people and corporations?

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You have to understand Trickle Down / Supply Side economics.

First, you give the 1% of the people who own 90% of the assets in this country a 98% tax break on their income.

Then, they donate to the charity that is providing you housing after your mortgage defaulted.

In this way the prosperity "trickles down" to you. Got it?

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Posted by: Leonard Peltier | Sep 15, 2008 6:33:22 PM

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A few comments on the man who helped provide the words Sarah Palin put in her speeches:

Westbrook Pegler -

Pegler decreed America was “done for” after Truman won a full term in 1948. For his part, Truman regarded the columnist as a “guttersnipe,” and with good reason. Pegler was a rabid Joe McCarthyite who loathed F.D.R. and Ike and tirelessly advanced the theory that American Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe (“geese,” he called them) were all likely Communists.

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Posted by: Mr. Coffee | Sep 15, 2008 6:33:27 PM

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A few comments on the man who helped provide the words Sarah Palin put in her speeches:

Westbrook Pegler -

Pegler decreed America was “done for” after Truman won a full term in 1948. For his part, Truman regarded the columnist as a “guttersnipe,” and with good reason. Pegler was a rabid Joe McCarthyite who loathed F.D.R. and Ike and tirelessly advanced the theory that American Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe (“geese,” he called them) were all likely Communists.

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Posted by: Mr. Coffee | Sep 15, 2008 6:33:38 PM

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republicans are lame, pathelic and sad the world is lame pathelic and sad.

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Posted by: karine | Sep 15, 2008 6:33:56 PM

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Is this the same Biden who told a cripple to stand up last week and then said "I don't know what I am talking about."" Who takes this guy seriously anymore? He is a clueless buffoon and an embarrassment even to the Obama campaign.

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Posted by: Jimmy | Sep 15, 2008 6:35:06 PM

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Kitty:
You get a gloom and doom feeling from the Democrats? Three out of the fab five financial institutions that were the cornerstone of Wall Street no longer exist (hint: they were all old enough and strong enough to withstand the great depression). We can't just stamp a bunch of 'Hello Kitty' stickers on it to make it seem okay! Don't blame the Dem's if you can't handle the truth.

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Posted by: Debbi Atkinson | Sep 15, 2008 6:35:57 PM

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No, actually Kitty, I think you can thank the Repubs for that. This is what 8 years of their leadership has wrought.

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Posted by: obamamama | Sep 15, 2008 6:36:49 PM

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Mr, Coffee thanks for that Reference.

It was no coincidence that in her allusions to 'small town America growing good people', Palin was steered into making a direct reference to Truman who was an ideological enemy of Pegler.

They even give us the hints as to what they are up to, for those inclined to read between the lines.

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Posted by: Leonard Peltier | Sep 15, 2008 6:37:20 PM

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Here's the story Jimmy. Just a day after musing that Mrs Clinton ‘might have been a better pick than me’, Mr Biden left an audience cringing in Columbia, Missouri, when he urged a paraplegic state official to stand up and be recognised.

‘Chuck, stand up, let the people see you,’ he shouted to State Senator Chuck Graham before realising, to his horror, that the local politician uses a wheelchair.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1055768/Bungling-Biden-ruin-Obama-fear-Democrats-tells-disabled-politician-stand-up.html

BIDEN SHOULD STOP INSULTING THE DISABLED!!

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Posted by: Sam | Sep 15, 2008 6:37:40 PM

Posted by: ellen | Sep 15, 2008 6:38:05 PM

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Okay Free Association Time:

If I say "deregulation" what political party comes to mind?

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Posted by: Leonard Peltier | Sep 15, 2008 6:38:43 PM

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gabrielle

he actually took mccains words as he said them this morning, it was later that mccain came back and attributed his fundamentals of the economy are strong statement to mean that he was talking about hard working people.

if thats his new statement then i ask you does mccain know what the fundementals of the economy are? because they are not hard working americans...

hard working americans may be the corner stone of our economy but fundamentally that is not true....

he screwed up, he is out of touch, and his cover up answer is even more out of touch displaying his campaigns manic episodes

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Posted by: Bhrandon | Sep 15, 2008 6:40:13 PM

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geeeeeeez the liberals are really getting uptight since their man is lagging in the polls!

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Posted by: WOMAN FOR PALIN | Sep 15, 2008 6:41:00 PM

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Here, Here to Tammy re: comment Sep 15, 2008 6:22:50 PM.
Tammy you are trying to reach a group that is virtually unreachable. These are the very same ones that voted for the goofball that (with help from syncophants) drove the country off a cliff.
These are the children of Hamelin that continue following the pied piper to an ever worsening fate.
These voters are mindless scum and are ultimately responsible for the current state of affairs affecting our country.

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Posted by: TruthTrumpsHonor | Sep 15, 2008 6:41:58 PM

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Woman for She Who Must Be Obeyed,

Enjoy it while it lasts, Virgina is just about to flip.

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Posted by: Leonard Peltier | Sep 15, 2008 6:42:00 PM

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Obama has never gone out of his way to relate to women. Only seven of his top twenty Senate staff positions are filled by women (McCain has thirteen of twenty) and women on Obama's staff earn 83 cents for each dollar his male staffers are paid. (McCain pays his female staffers $1.04 for each dollar he pays to his men).
dm

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Posted by: Don | Sep 15, 2008 6:43:06 PM

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McCain relates to women.
Boy And How does he relate to women.

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Posted by: Leonard Peltier | Sep 15, 2008 6:44:04 PM

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The sky is falling. The sky is falling. Most people have not lost their jobs, and the ones who did will adjust. It's what humans do. Tell us what you are going to do, Joe. Don't whine.

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Posted by: Kitty | Sep 15, 2008 6:45:09 PM

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why are demorcrats mostly poor and use goverment programs?

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Posted by: ????? | Sep 15, 2008 6:46:46 PM

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THE FORCES OF DARKNESS in America are hidden in the light of day in mainstream American life. They smile in your face, appear to be as All American as a Norman Rockwell painting. They seem to care about the lives of average, every day people, so much so that they even arrange rally's with endorsements from latino rap stars, stand alongside people of different races and socioeconomic backgrounds (NASCAR) for photo ops. These people always have a black friend, a latin friend, an Asian and a Midwestern housewife and a blue collar worker. They concoct their photo ops to hit certain demographics because they fundamentally disrespect every single one of them and think you can be had if you see them standing next to someone like you.

For all of their efforts to appear just like you and me, outside the spotlight of TV, Radio and Media as the "True Elitists" they legislate against the American taxpayer, create loopholes for the oil industry and insure that their NEOCON friends and war profiteers will continue to have more war while they bankrupt the nation's treasury and leave small towns in rural America to die. This is true even if they come back every 4 years and prey on them for votes. They scare you and then tell you that they want to protect you. They say that they love America and then they dictate to you their version of patriotism and question yours because you do not wear a flag pin. They do not love you, they do not care about you and they do not want you to have a seat at the table, to see the back room maneuvers and yet, if you should educate yourself, succeed and rise up and gain access and are able to see inside the rigged game that they have set up, spoiled frat boys with trust funds, label you, the one who climbed up from the lower middle classes....they label you as the "Elitist"...as a Muslim..as one with radical friends.

The real danger of the Neocon Forces of Darkness & Intolerence in America is when they reach down, among the people, to find and pluck out a "true believer" in their agenda. The deception works marvelously when they find someone who is attractive, likeable and seems to have a lifestyle just like you and me, rather ordinary. They present her back to the people and ask for your support. It is the oldest elite trick in the book. Who were the most loyal foot soldiers in the 3rd Reich? Elitists who manipulated loyal foot soldiers and pulled them up to high ranking positions. You give them a life and access to power that they can only dream of and of course they will do whatever their mentors/puppetteers advise them to. Sarah Palin is their current decoy and a deception to take away your attention from John McCain's rapidly decaying mental and physical health and those who have commandeered the GOP and McCain's Maverick Brand. The Neocon Trojan Horse, John McCain needs one more layer of deception to get this con by the American people.

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Posted by: Christopher London | Sep 15, 2008 6:48:48 PM

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why are republicans old money never walk a mile in someone elses shoes elitist punks who think everyone can make it with a little hard work....

nevermind my trust fund, i made my first million on my own... after living off my 600 million dollar trust fund

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Posted by: Bhrandon | Sep 15, 2008 6:49:02 PM

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kitty

LOL

you are a moron your last comment proves it... lol

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Posted by: Bhrandon | Sep 15, 2008 6:49:37 PM

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All those who think Bushed messed everything up need to remember that nothing gets done unles congress approves it. Did i mention that Bush has a Democratic congress? Think it's bad now? Wait until you see what will happen if Democratic Obama gets in with a democratic congress. Start kissing your money and your rights as American citzens away.

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Posted by: Superwimp | Sep 15, 2008 6:58:11 PM

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I agree. McCain is loosing ground big time. Palin truth is coming out. I agree as a republican, I will hold my nose and vote for the best candidate. McCain is not a wise man.


(CNN) – The bounce John McCain received in national opinion polls following his party's convention and the selection of Sarah Palin to the GOP presidential ticket appears to have evaporated, a new CNN poll of polls suggests.

In the latest CNN survey of several recent national polls, Obama and McCain are locked in a dead heat at 45 percent each with 10 percent who remain undecided with 50 days remaining until Election Day.

“When we average the latest national polls, it is increasingly clear that neither candidate has any serious momentum at the moment,” said CNN Senior Political Researcher Alan Silverleib. “The convention bounces have faded and left us with a dead heat. Even though we are now in the final stretch of this historic marathon campaign for the presidency, the White House is still genuinely up for grabs.”

CNN's latest poll of polls consists of three recent surveys: Newsweek (September 10-11), Gallup (September 12-14), and Diageo/Hotline (September 12-14). It does not have a sampling error.

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Posted by: Bill-independent voter | Sep 15, 2008 6:58:33 PM

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Christopher,

You sound like a raging left-wing wacko.

I'M IN!!!

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Posted by: Leonard Peltier | Sep 15, 2008 6:59:56 PM

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If this is Leonard F. Peltier commenting... people you are reading comments posted by a highly esteemed individual and one of the TRUE owners of this country. LISTEN to him

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Posted by: TruthTrumpsHonor | Sep 15, 2008 7:01:24 PM

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I bet Biden is grateful for the ABC blogs that keep his name out there, as most Americans are saying "Biden, who?"
Obama should take down his CHANGE banners as old Joe, is politics as usual, Washington insider....nothing hopey, changey there.
I love that Joe who would have been proud to run with McCain, and is on the record as saying Obama is not presidential....and clean and articulate for an African American, storybook man. Oh, that Joe!

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Posted by: Debra | Sep 15, 2008 7:01:45 PM

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I 100% agree. As a republican is sad but I belive with all my heart that Biden is far better choice than Palin. Palin interview with Charles Gibson proved that she has "ZERO" foreign Policy experience. Palin is a joke. The more days go by the more we hear the truth about her. Shes controversial and LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES and more lies. I dont know about you but the last time I checked with my pastor, lying is a SIN and lyers go to hell.

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Posted by: Larry Mason | Sep 15, 2008 7:04:40 PM

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@SW: Bush has had a (admittedly impotent) Democratic congress for the last one and a half years. Apparently you were sleeping for the preceding six years. As for "kissing you money and your right as American citizens away" - you obviously think we're idiots. Bush secretly wiretapped everyone, watched your email and maybe worse. Bush has tortured people who were later considered innocent and has spent more of my money than any of the worst wasteful spending Democratic presidencies.

So, it is one thing to talk like you know something. It is another thing know it. You fool no one but yourself.

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Posted by: MIguy | Sep 15, 2008 7:05:06 PM

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TruthTrumpsHonor,

I changed my name initially to back Sarah because of her allegiance to the Alaska Independent Party and their fight for independence from the 'Outside'

She and I are Freedom Fighters, but alas,the anarchistic ideology of your party proved to be beyond my conceptual reach.

Maybe I'll reinvent myself as Phil Gramm now.

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Posted by: Leonard Peltier | Sep 15, 2008 7:05:35 PM

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Yeah! If the economy was better I'd be able to buy two i-phones instead of one!
Vote for Barry because he knows people that know stuff.

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Posted by: Mack | Sep 15, 2008 7:06:43 PM

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TruthTrumpsHonor,

Apologies, I misread your post. The nuance was beyond me, but the fog is clearing.

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Posted by: Leonard Peltier | Sep 15, 2008 7:07:20 PM

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We dont say no more the reality is that we republicans lost vision and direction. We have a very bad candidate representing us. Palin is even worse. I belive that we republicans need to re-group as this election is a lost case. I dont like McCain as he does not represent me as a republincan. Palin is just too dis-honest. O wellM, MITT 2012

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Posted by: Jim | Sep 15, 2008 7:08:49 PM

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Leonard Peltier,

You go man! Clobber these clowns with the truth however you will!

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Posted by: TruthTrumpsHonor | Sep 15, 2008 7:09:05 PM

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"Obama should take down his CHANGE banners as old Joe, is politics as usual, Washington insider....nothing hopey, changey there."

Exactly. Where's the change in that? Present!

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Posted by: Mack | Sep 15, 2008 7:09:23 PM

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McCain is just a dottering old fool still stuck in the Vietnam era, playing Abba's ancient hit "SOS" again and again on his eight track tape deck. He seems older than his 72 years.
Meanwhile, Biden is energetic and lives in the now and seems younger than his years.

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Posted by: Ken | Sep 15, 2008 7:10:06 PM

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The wheels are slowly coming off...


I agree. McCain is loosing ground big time. Palin truth is coming out. I agree as a republican, I will hold my nose and vote for the best candidate. McCain is not a wise man.


(CNN) – The bounce John McCain received in national opinion polls following his party's convention and the selection of Sarah Palin to the GOP presidential ticket appears to have evaporated, a new CNN poll of polls suggests.

In the latest CNN survey of several recent national polls, Obama and McCain are locked in a dead heat at 45 percent each with 10 percent who remain undecided with 50 days remaining until Election Day.

“When we average the latest national polls, it is increasingly clear that neither candidate has any serious momentum at the moment,” said CNN Senior Political Researcher Alan Silverleib. “The convention bounces have faded and left us with a dead heat. Even though we are now in the final stretch of this historic marathon campaign for the presidency, the White House is still genuinely up for grabs.”

CNN's latest poll of polls consists of three recent surveys: Newsweek (September 10-11), Gallup (September 12-14), and Diageo/Hotline (September 12-14). It does not have a sampling error.

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Posted by: George | Sep 15, 2008 7:11:07 PM

Posted by: jackie | Sep 15, 2008 7:11:15 PM

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Senator Biden, you are on point...Keep up the good work you are my #1 candidate.

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Posted by: lanawonders | Sep 15, 2008 7:12:02 PM

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WOW!!! AMERICA IS WAKING UP!!!!


NO MCCAIN-

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Posted by: ALEC | Sep 15, 2008 7:12:14 PM

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WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

“He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.

[…]

Obama has made many contradictory statements with regard to Iraq. His latest position is that US combat troops should be out by 2010. Yet his effort to delay an agreement would make that withdrawal deadline impossible to meet.

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Posted by: Obama Asked Iraqi Leaders to Delay U.S. Troop Withdrawal Agreement Until After the Election | Sep 15, 2008 7:12:39 PM

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OMG!! Why would he want to delay bringing the troops home?!!

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Posted by: tina | Sep 15, 2008 7:14:12 PM

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When Bush became President, we had a 200 billion dollar surplus, today we have a 400 billion dollar deficit.

Gas was $1.60, today it's close to $4.00

The debt was 5 trillion, today it's 9 trillion.

Unemployment is up from 4% to 6%.

It's time once again for the Democrats to fix what the Republicans broke.

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Posted by: AkaDad | Sep 15, 2008 7:17:37 PM

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"I agree. McCain is loosing ground big time. Palin truth is coming out. I agree as a republican, I will hold my nose and vote for the best candidate. McCain is not a wise man.


(CNN) – The bounce John McCain received in national opinion polls following his party's convention and the selection of Sarah Palin to the GOP presidential ticket appears to have evaporated, a new CNN poll of polls suggests."

It's funny how CNN only mentions polls when they believe that they're favorable to Barry.
Last week it was "national polls don't matter, look at the electoral map." This week it's don't look at the electoral map, look at our poll of polls. No matter which way you slice it, Barry is sinking.

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Posted by: Mack | Sep 15, 2008 7:22:19 PM

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People are sending less trash to their landfills, and they are finally walking. Why is Bush so bad? He will go down in history as the President who saved the health of a nation and, maybe, our planet. Ok, it's a stretch, but there's a silver lining to everything. Hey go get some bootstraps and pull yourselves up. Some of you are starting to scare me with your panic mode.

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Posted by: Kitty | Sep 15, 2008 7:24:21 PM

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"I get a doom and gloom feeling from the Dems."

You should have a doom and gloom feeling. Some of the largest financial institutions in this country have collapsed, or are on the verge of collapse. That is a scary thought indeed.

And before I get the "Americans are optimists blah blah blah", 80% of people think this nation is headed in the wrong direction.

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Posted by: dadanarchist | Sep 15, 2008 7:28:33 PM

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"Not surprised this is being swept under the carpet by the media--
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm'

They're doing their best to avoid it at all costs.
Palin..blah..blah..computers...blah..blah.


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Posted by: Mack | Sep 15, 2008 7:29:24 PM

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Reggie: Are you another dumb one like Obama and Biden? The economy is not because of the president it is because of the stupid people that didn't know how to handle their money. Many of them bought condo's and house's without a down payment of only 10% down and the mortgager's also caused the problem. That's why they are hurting. They made the loans and now they can't get their money back because the buyer's cannot pay the loan. That's part of the problem. They buy automobile's that they can't afford or lease them then they can't make the payment's. People are the cause of their own disaster's. Wake up.

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Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 15, 2008 7:30:33 PM

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"And before I get the "Americans are optimists blah blah blah", 80% of people think this nation is headed in the wrong direction.'

And 90% supported the war in Iraq.

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Posted by: Mack | Sep 15, 2008 7:30:46 PM

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Go Joe-give those liars Hell!

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Posted by: Mc Mary | Sep 15, 2008 7:30:51 PM

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How out of touch Mcsame can be. He still believes the fundamentals of our economy are strong. If you are like jhon Mcain who has 9 houses and a net worth of more than 100 millions dollars, then you can feel free to say the same thing. People are losing their homes and their jobs, businesses are failing right and left, and this guys has been so detached from our realities that he has the gall to run on change. What is he going to change? He already agreed 100% with Bushism policies and plan on continue that trend. Only stupid people with no rational behavior will continue to do the same thing over and over and expect a different result. The Choice is clear. We must change course otherwise America is bound to become a third world country in just one short generation.

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Posted by: Omidal | Sep 15, 2008 7:31:12 PM

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"We must change course otherwise America is bound to become a third world country in just one short generation."

Elect Barry because him and Joe aren't part of the problem....oh wait.

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Posted by: Mack | Sep 15, 2008 7:34:16 PM

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Mack: Your right. Obama is sinking and McCain is gaining. And the networks who support Obama are getting nervous. I can't wait to see their faces if Obama loses this election and also the face on Nancy Pelosi. And I do not think he is going to win this election. Palin is the celebrity now and Obama is in the dust.

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Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 15, 2008 7:34:30 PM

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"And 90% supported the war in Iraq."

Uhm, no. You made that up.

"NY Post Article"

Obama campaign is asking for a retraction.

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Posted by: dadanarchist | Sep 15, 2008 7:35:55 PM

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"Your right. Obama is sinking and McCain is gaining."

More wrongness. The Palin/Convention bump is wearing off and the race is returning to where it was in August. Pretty dead even. It's called a Gallup tracking poll. Read it. Use it.

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Posted by: dadanarchist | Sep 15, 2008 7:37:00 PM

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"stupid people that didn't know how to handle their money."

Do you mean like Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch, WaMu and Lehmans?

In this case, you are right - it isn't Bush's fault. It's Phil Gramm's (ex-McCain economic advisor, famous whiner-hater), as he wrote the law deregulating the banking sector that has contributed to this implosion.

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Posted by: dadanarchist | Sep 15, 2008 7:38:56 PM

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Wait wait wait! Now McCain is saying.... CRISIS! (gasp!)

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/channel-08/2008/09/mccain-palin_ad_says_economy_i.html

Hahaha this is so insane I can't even keep up anymore.

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Posted by: Actually | Sep 15, 2008 7:39:30 PM

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""NY Post Article"

Obama campaign is asking for a retraction.'

Of course they are. Silence the critics.

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Posted by: Mack | Sep 15, 2008 7:42:51 PM

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Alex: Your right America finally woke up to Obama that's why McCain is now in the lead and Obama is losing ground. Obama may win the Latino's vote but who cares. Its the white people's vote he needs. Obama will get the black vote but there are more white's and I believe he will win this election.

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Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 15, 2008 7:45:01 PM

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I obviously have no idea what I just wrote above because I'm clueless. More whites? In the lead? I meant to say there's a tie.

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Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 15, 2008 7:47:32 PM

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"More wrongness. The Palin/Convention bump is wearing off and the race is returning to where it was in August. Pretty dead even. It's called a Gallup tracking poll. Read it. Use it."

I guess you'll be clinging to your polls the day after us typical Americans elect the next President of the United States of America, John McCain.

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Posted by: Mack | Sep 15, 2008 7:51:17 PM

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Actually: The only crisis in this country is the stock market and the loan companies that gave loans to people that couldn't afford to buy condo's or homes because they didn't have enough money to put down. That's why there are so many foreclosures. Don't blame the president. Investor's made big mistakes in investing money. McCain is right. I am not hurting and there are a lot of people in this country that are in good shape. People are the cause of their own destruction by living beyond their means. You don't buy what you cannot afford. I am sure everyone on this comment board has enough money to purchase buy groceries, pay rent and utilities. When I go shopping for food the stores are crowded with people and their baskets are loaded with food. And the expensive cars they drive. So don't tell me the economy is bad. Its the people making their own mistakes.

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Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 15, 2008 7:51:35 PM

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For the real John McCain, look at this -
actual footage does not lie...
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.html

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Posted by: swing state bluesblog | Sep 15, 2008 7:54:40 PM

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The Palin/Convention bump is not wearing off in fact its getting better and she is drawing more crowds than ever. Its the Dems that are hurting and don't know which way to turn. Minnesota was leaning towards Obama but it is now a tossup state. And McCain is surging in NY. I hope he surges in NJ, PA and OH. ObamaOsama is failing and that's the good news for this country. And there is nothing wrong with the economy in this country, its the people living beyond their means, buying what they can't afford that's why they are losing their homes and condo's. I said it before people are their worst enemy and they destroy themselves by wrong decisions. You don't buy what you cannot afford. Wall St. went down under because of wrong decisions in investments. That is no fault of the president. That's the fault of the investor's not making the right decisions.

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Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 15, 2008 8:01:27 PM

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If you are interested in THE DEPTH OF MCCAIN"S DISHONOR, read this: http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm and this: http://www.usvetdsp.com/mar08/mccain_manchurian.htm
Do you want this man representing you against Russians and Chinese?

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Posted by: Veracity | Sep 15, 2008 8:02:51 PM

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McBush is banging on the stupidity of the voters to get elected. He has the Alaska earmak addict running around on an anti- earmarks fabricated record. Now, he is telling us that the economy is strong. He knows that he is lying. He just hopes that he gets away with this one.

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Posted by: No McBush | Sep 15, 2008 8:04:07 PM

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All day today I have seen article after article where both McCain and Palin are talking issues in front of their crowds...while Obama and Biden are crying liar liar pants on fire in front of their crowds.

Pretty much sums it up for me.

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Posted by: dan | Sep 15, 2008 8:04:19 PM

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Expect McSame to soon call for the election of a Dem who voted against the Irak war. You might be thinking that he is calling for a vote for Obama. Wrong...McBush is a Dem who voted against the war, Obama is the GOPer who voted for the war...I am McBush and I approve this message.

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Posted by: Next Lie | Sep 15, 2008 8:07:49 PM

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Mariann:
You're living in a bubble.

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Posted by: Actually | Sep 15, 2008 8:07:52 PM

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I don't know who used my name and didn't want to use their own name but I stick to what I said. Yes, the whites are the majority and that's who will make McCain win regardless of what you think. Why what race are you? Obama will get the majority of the Latino vote and black vote. You know this as well as I do. So don't play coy.

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Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 15, 2008 8:07:58 PM

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Actually: No, you are living in denial of what I said. People are the cause of their own destruction because many of them want to live beyond their means and then they cry when they lose everything. You know that as well as I do. Wall St. failed because of wrong investments just like people didn't have enough money to buy their home and it was foreclosed on them. Wrong decisions are the cause of failure. Your living in wonderland.

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Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 15, 2008 8:11:47 PM

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everyone knows that all the world's problems were cause by the democrats. In fact, if Clinton had not had sex, the world trade centers would still be here. yea.
and coal is clean
polar bears and penguins are useless.
thank god we will have a god fearing vice prez, who is cuter than Monica.
god is hugging us closer!

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Posted by: RReagan | Sep 15, 2008 8:14:27 PM

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Francisco: You are right. That statement was made on Rush L. this morning because a friend of mine called me up and told me what Obama had planned. How dumb can he be. Didn't he know his plan was going nowhere but to the news media. I already knew he was an underhanded crooked lying candidate who also doublecrossed the woman running against him for the senate. I know he doublecrossed Hillary with Nancy Pelosi. He wants what he wants but I hope it fails on him.

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Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 15, 2008 8:15:51 PM

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Ok so let me get this straight. Today:
-McCain said economy "fundamentally" fine.
-McCain runs ad saying "Crisis"
-McCain retracts piggygate.
-McCain FINALLY decides to talk about issues.

Ok.... got it. F'ing ridiculous.

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Posted by: Alyssa | Sep 15, 2008 8:16:21 PM

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Joe Biden, self-appointed workingclass hero, would like us to believe that we have entered the next Great Depression. That way, he and Barack Obama will get elected. Yes, there are serious financial problems on Wall St. at the moment. But in important way the US economy is strong. We have a talented and hardworking labor force (including immigrants), innovative small businesses (unless taxes and regulations become too burdensome), abundant domestic energy resources (if we permit them to be tappied), the best universities and researchers in the world, etc. So don't let the Obama/Biden team panic you into thinking that our economy has crumbled. It hasn't.

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Posted by: Econ Prof | Sep 15, 2008 8:19:50 PM

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If Biden thinks that McCain is wrong I bet he's living good in a big house like Obama is and all the other senator's. So where is the crisis? Its in the stock market and wrong investments. Wrong decision making causes destruction. It has nothing to do with the economy. If people invested in the stock market that's their problem not the problems of the president. In my surrounding area there condo's being built all around and developer's are buying up the multi-units for conversion. And they are being bought up. So if the economy is that bad people would not be able to buy. Investor's are suffering because they made wrong decisions in the investing. Everyone blames the president. Don't buy what you can't afford and you won't suffer.

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Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Sep 15, 2008 8:26:43 PM

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In my opinion, McCain was trying to calm the fears of the average American today when he said the economy was fundamentally sound....he went on to address the seriousness of the situation and promised to enact reform and regulation. So, for all of those making fun of McCain for making that statement, I see it not as being out of touch, but just a way of trying to stop the panic that most of us feel who are invested in a 40lK. Obama on the other hand offered nothing except to blame Bush and say that McCain would be another Bush. Please, that is not what we want to hear.

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Posted by: Max | Sep 15, 2008 8:29:24 PM

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Re: Econ Prof
Yes those things are true... and will it bounce back? Yes, it always does and I think most people know/understand that. But do people care NOW? Can you rationalize that to someone who's lost their home/job/etc? No. I have many friends who, as "Mariann" above would like you to believe, were NOT living above their means by any stretch. Obviously it's a mess, it's more complicated and involved than the average person can grasp AND going to take a lot of work, but I think McCain isn't on point. You just can't sit on the fence and say it's fine and a crisis at the same time with something HE (RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT <-- key words) should be. Sorry.

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Posted by: Alyssa | Sep 15, 2008 8:31:48 PM

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What does he expect from a stupid, drooling old man?! MCCAIN AND PALIN: THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE!

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Posted by: disgusted | Sep 15, 2008 8:34:21 PM

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To: Mariann Pepitone

Wake up you stupid woman!!!

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Posted by: me | Sep 15, 2008 8:36:25 PM

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And while we're at it would any of you who are pro McCain like to give your reasonings for Greenspan (a McCain endorser) going against his tax plan in our "once-in-a-lifetime financial crisis"...?

Anyone? Is he just part of the liberal media too?

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Posted by: Alyssa | Sep 15, 2008 8:46:58 PM

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f this story is true, it is the most important revelation of the election.


Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari has apparently revealed that the centerpiece of Barack Obama's conversation with Iraqi leaders in July was his hope of delaying the draw-down of American military forces in Iraq. Zebari's recounts that Obama "asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington." Obama also reportedly insisted that Congress steer negotiations on the time-table of troops withdrawal, rather than the Bush administration, which he described as being in a "state of weakness and political confusion."


Obama's campaign has denied these accounts of his visit to Iraq. Such a private request for delayed troop reductions would run counter to Obama's public statements on Iraq, in which he calls for an immediate withdrawal. Further, an attempt to subvert the executive branch would be contrary to established U.S. foreign policy.


If Zebari's statements are discovered to be true, Obama would be guilty of the most unadulterated political profiteering and moral corruption in modern history. To seek electoral gain on the deception of a nation at war and the blood of American soldiers is nothing less than treasonous villainy - for which the offender ought to be tarred and feathered before being expelled from the country.

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Posted by: Samantha | Sep 15, 2008 8:50:38 PM

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Sarah Palin/John McCain's speech writers borrow phrases from Westbrook Pegler -

Pegler decreed America was “done for” after Truman won a full term in 1948. For his part, Truman regarded the columnist as a “guttersnipe,” and with good reason. Pegler was a rabid Joe McCarthyite who loathed F.D.R. and Ike and tirelessly advanced the theory that American Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe (“geese,” he called them) were all likely Communists.

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Posted by: Mr. Coffee | Sep 15, 2008 9:17:24 PM

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Maybe people that want to condemn should listen to the speech instead of repeating the liberal press. I did listen this morning and Senator McCain said the 'fundamentals of the economy are strong'. He stated first off there was a crises, but when he said the 'fundamentals are strong' he said by fundamentals he meant the American worker's willingness to work, their ingenuity, and ability to overcome adversity. It would be a much better world if we'd all get the words from the horses mouth and tune out the bias of the news media.

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Posted by: jonguer | Sep 15, 2008 9:21:23 PM

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Sorry but saying first the economy is sound is strikingly different. And he cleared up what he meant by "fundamentals are strong" later in his SECOND appearance for the day all while running an ad calling it a crisis which aired BEFORE the stock markets opened for the day. So no. He either has no idea what the hell is going on with either his campaign OR the actual economy or both. But who am I...? Bush told me for 8 years not to question anything.

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Posted by: Alyssa | Sep 15, 2008 11:05:37 PM

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the sky is falling, its all mccain's fault.obama just wants everyone to like him.this is the the big show now, all that bush44,lobbyist stuff just is not working. dems take the weekend off and regroup.oh, that was last weekend.obama should get lots of street $$ together,he is going to need more now then ever.oh yea, obama is not going to help the people that get him in the white house either.come on.

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Posted by: harold l | Sep 15, 2008 11:13:24 PM

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Once AGAIN - the obama GANG twisting words - for their political gain.
Seems it is the DEMS that always go negative - we are SICK of it.

McCain/Palin best choice for our country.

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Posted by: Abby | Sep 15, 2008 11:18:50 PM

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did the dems ever question bill clinton,that goes both ways.talk about jobs in the u s a.does nafta ring any bells.

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Posted by: harold l | Sep 15, 2008 11:21:08 PM

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the only thing joe biden is ever going to dub it that little amtrak train station he is so fond of.

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Posted by: harold l | Sep 15, 2008 11:23:47 PM

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You're an idiot. I'm not blaming the president for everything. However the economy is the top issue for most this election and McCain is clueless about it. But then it's hard to know when you're living in a "how many houses do I have" bubble. What an.... "elitist" jacka**.

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Posted by: Alyssa | Sep 15, 2008 11:27:19 PM

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Clinton? He's running again? I coulda swore this was 2008.

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Posted by: Alyssa | Sep 15, 2008 11:30:33 PM

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Has anyone heard that money was made "under the table" from Freddy and Fanny.... and Obama was the number 2 beneficiary?

This was on Chicago radio earlier this evening.....

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Posted by: Questioner | Sep 16, 2008 12:12:10 AM

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It wasn't made "under the table"... it's published and for individual campaign contributions.

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Posted by: Alyssa | Sep 16, 2008 12:28:59 AM

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"Wait a minute, team Obama has two (2) Fannie Mae executives as their economic advisors . . . Duh!"

Posted by: van Jacobi | Sep 15, 2008 6:26:59 PM
__________________________

AND....

Chicago was the recipient of a large proportion of their failed mortgages

AND....

Barack Obama was the second largest beneficiary of Fanny Mae's largesse!

AND Obama and the Dumbocrats were in favor of getting rid of the necessary oversights and checks and balances .

During the wonderful Clinton days, the
desire for and possibilities of home ownership were fluffed and puffed, and everyone got hooked on "making it easier" to buy!

No more 20% down! You want a mini-mansion but can only afford a one-car garage..... not to worry!

Mortgage brokers were as greedy as their clients, and so were the lenders and where were Freddy and Fanny's advisors?

Under the table Making Millions that's where!

But they shared with some of the legislators.... like Obama, for one!

"Wait a minute, team Obama has two (2) Fannie Mae executives as their economic advisors . . . Duh!"
______________________

MCCAIN AND PALIN.......

COUNTRY BEFORE BROKEN DOWN DUMBOCRATIC
PARTY!


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Posted by: Questioner | Sep 16, 2008 12:42:23 AM

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"It wasn't made "under the table"... it's published and for individual campaign contributions.

Posted by: Alyssa | Sep 16, 2008 12:28:59 AM
_____________
I KNOW the difference between contributions and "UNDER THE TABLE", sweetie!

I LIVE in CHICAGO!

And THIS particular windfall.... was


And THIS

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Posted by: Questioner | Sep 16, 2008 12:50:04 AM

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WAS
UNDER
THE
TABLE
!!!!!

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Posted by: Questioner | Sep 16, 2008 12:51:10 AM

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Well, to be honest, if I owned 9 homes, had a rich wife, and free health insurance, I might think the economy is basically sound too.

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Posted by: Poor Man | Sep 16, 2008 2:31:54 AM

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I get a doom and gloom feeling from the Dems


Posted by: Kitty | Sep 15, 2008 6:10:10 PM

___________________________

Yeah, Look how well things are going under bush

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Posted by: Hemi | Sep 16, 2008 10:06:46 AM

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Economy and MCbush in the same sentence.$5,000,000 yearly income is middle class, wonder where my piddling $20,000 puts me in his book. Even in a good year working 12 hours a day my yearly income was only $30,000 for that year. The man wasn't even good at the military if he had been he would not have been captured. so just what is this pair good at? nothing in my book. They both live in a dark room, because they certainly don't know what is going on right under their noses. If they did they would not be saying the things they are saying. This country is in trouble we have to tend to our own wounds and stop worrying about what this and that country is doing. How would we like some foreigh country telling us we can't do this and we can't do that and we can only grow corn. I don't think we would like it very much so why do we dictate to the world???

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Posted by: Rose szymanski | Sep 16, 2008 10:28:02 AM

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I pity American, i pity the next 4yrs, i wonderd what it will look like if MCCAIN PALIN finally came to power, American will beg for bread soon. i am not American but i love GREAT USA !! Please american put party diffrences and race apart and chose a wise and acceptable leader Think of ur future dont think of more wars. good luck as you chose ur leader but remainber both friends and enemy are watching you some will want you to do one more mistake so that Great American will become history.

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Posted by: iloghalu | Sep 16, 2008 2:01:39 PM

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So McCain thought that "fundamentals" meant workers. So what?
John McCain admitted weeks ago that he doesn't know much about the economy. Please give him a little slack. He was a POW in Viet Nam for goodnes sake. - and you should respect your elders.

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Posted by: Dave in Misouri | Sep 16, 2008 3:39:42 PM

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Let's recap: McCain is running for PRESIDENT not a "regular job" and knowing about the economy IS ummm IMPORTANT? Respect has nothing to do with it. And I'm sick of the POW story. We know we get it. The end.

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Posted by: Alyssa | Sep 16, 2008 11:59:43 PM

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SUPERWIMP rights what did thr patriot act do to our rights, if you don't think or agree with Bushes policies your a terrorist;???????You don't think the republicans take advantage of government programs, Maaybe democrats are poor today because the texas mafia stopped funding these helpful programs like student loans small business loans etc

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Posted by: Rose Szymanski | Sep 17, 2008 12:42:14 AM

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I keep hearing on these posts doom and gloom accusation for the democrats? The only one that has made me think of that is Palin with her statement of "going to war with Russia." Oh, and they can't keep doing damage control when McCain speaks. He said the fundamentals of our economy is strong and then he has a statement that uses words that never came out of his mouth.

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Posted by: jax | Sep 17, 2008 2:11:54 AM

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